anything that works?

[velacreations]

Is there anything in these forums that actually works, in terms of energy? Lots and lots of posts about free energy and devices. Lots and lots of failed replications.

Does anybody have anything that works?

[truesearch]

@velacreations:

You will find LOTS of claims, ideas, and theories here. . . . But "working" models are very hard to find.

However, it APPEARS like the "Asymmetrical" re-wound electric motors by user "UFO-Politics" seem to be over-unity. Here is a link to that thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post218245

Good luck in your research!

truesearch

[velacreations]

well, the 2 that I have seen numerous working models are
Vialle's generator: L'autogénérateur de Richard Vialle par JL Naudin
MAHG: The Moller's Atomic Hydrogen Generator (COP >21)

[SkyWatcher]

Hi velacreations, this may not be the answer you are expecting to hear, as it might seem counter intuitive to the programming or conditioning that we as humans, have been exposed to since our seeming birth.
It is only with the heart, that one can see clearly, all that is essential, is invisible to the eyes.
The decoding of this is, all is energy or consciousness and the heart has a connection to our original energetic form of self (one).
This true self (one) is aware that all so called physical manifestations, including these vessels we currently animate, are constructs of this energy or consciousness.
All seeming problems or lack of solutions are a byproduct of how well this connection from the heart to the true self is communicating between one another.
At the level of the true self, one knows we are all one and from the same source and the seeming separation at this human level is seen for the illusion it is.
All solutions to all seeming problems are within, they do not exist outside of us, for that is illusion.
For example, lets say a replicator technology has existed for along time, dug up in an archeology find or perhaps given to us by another race of beings from the cosmos.
This replicator will create anything one needs to live a life of comfort and abundance and is easy to construct this device.
Now, if certain groups of human beings prevented our use of such devices by withholding this information for whatever reasons, is the solution truly outside or external to us, as in a technology, heater, free energy device.
It should be apparent, that the solution is within us and always has been.
peace love light
tyson

[velacreations]

thanks, tyson, but I prefer replications that are well documented. There are no shortage of theories, but it seems like very few are worth the effort.

[velacreations]

However, it APPEARS like the "Asymmetrical" re-wound electric motors by user "UFO-Politics" seem to be over-unity. Here is a link to that thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post218245

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am not seeing over unity results there. Am I missing something?

[Ufopolitics]

What is your understanding of OU?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am not seeing over unity results there. Am I missing something?

Knock Knock...Velacreations, may I come in?

And may I ask you...

What is your exact understanding of OU?

Please.

Thanks


Ufopolitics

[Duncan]

There ya go!

Velacreations .. I don’t believe in over unity, I do believe in COP>1 ,OK so I'm just being picky however given that you understand that simply stick a wire in the air, Its been done for years it works and its free energy. Here's how http://www4.zetatalk.com/docs/Batter...arger_2006.pdf
of course if you want to drive cars and houses with it you'll have to learn what your actually doing and how to improve it . There's about 10 years of E.P.Dollards work can help you.
In the mean time you just asked for a system that works . for starting the thread that seems to be the end of it. QED

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi velacreations, well it's rather hard for most to replicate an idea that is suppressed, that was kind of the message.
It is the intent within, that creates the outer world.
So, if the few are given power to dictate to the rest of us, we get things we have to pay for and as can be seen, devolves into inferior technology, with designed in expiration times, that enrich these few that do not have the highest good of all at heart.
To speak of a lack of certain technologies, without looking at the whole picture and all the evidence that proves an agenda of suppression has been going on.
It is provable fact, that solar panels are intentionally kept at a low efficiency level, by these few dictators, wherever they are in the shadows.
I'm all for replicating and innovating, though it should be acknowledged.
We as humanity, have an issue that should be dealt with, the only problem is, this issue is inside of us, call it a spiritual issue, call it a greed issue, call it a fear issue, call it a control issue, call it a power issue, call it what you will.
It can be seen in almost everything around us, from paying for dirt and paying for the house on the dirt, paying for food, paying for energy, paying for, paying for, paying for.
Who are we ultimately paying anyway and why?
These human vessels did not come with pockets for very good reason.
For any real discussion about the needs of human beings or devices that may serve those needs, a hard look within, is a great start.
Hi duncan, thanks for sharing the pdf, that seems like it might work with a vande graff type generator or dirod or something, which takes next to nothing to rotate.
peace love light
tyson

[Duncan]

Bankster's new pension scheme required - Urgent!

Oh Its just a principle skywatcher It is simply a full stop for those who say free energy isn't available.
I really have no time for nay sayer's any more . Here's the first blocker Directory:35 U.S.C. 181:Secrecy of certain inventions and withholding of patent - PESWiki
and as you say a lot needs to be answered by the "sheeple" themselves and the control “fear and pay” system that we wilfully live under, If you can watch both these video's of the same incident one for
public transmission after extensive and expensive re-mastering, and one leaked from the BBC archive and work out what the difference is and why its been done you have taken a little step toward free energy
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
cutter - YouTube
If you can work out why George felt he had to say this
George Carlin - The american dream - YouTube
You’ve taken another little step. A little over 200 years ago the “They” who George talks about and the “Who” skywatcher mentions were doing what they always seem to do “more for themselves”
But the people who were not in the “big club” with a little help from this very clever man Joseph Fourier

who found most of the “they s” and their Bankster criminal friends and introduced them to a new pension scheme


Now in regard of free energy you would be well advised to study the mathematics of Fourier and his supporter Lord Kelvin and their later advancement by this guy

Charles Proteus Steinmetz: The Man Who Made Lightning - undated - YouTube
However you needn't concern yourself with free energy It isn't a problem at all, there are thousands of people who know how that’s done . Its the “They” that need sorting out and the sooner the better.
For Instance a website that does Fourier’s day job and names the “They” a lot of them are here
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube (Its how they roll) they seem to not understand

“Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it.” Jesse Ventura
So why do you want free energy? You'll only pay pay pay … four times as much for food or the roof over your head as George tells you the stinking rich who have never washed a pot in their lives “own you”! (and me) the right to have free energy is going to have to be won any suggestions?
PS Madame La Guillotine ... The medicine hasn't worked a new scheme is required!

[velacreations]

Knock Knock...Velacreations, may I come in?

And may I ask you...

What is your exact understanding of OU?

Please.

Thanks


Ufopolitics

Of course you can! I am not a gatekeeper, here, I am just asking questions.

My definition of OU, as it relates here, is getting more energy out of a system/device/machine than is put into the system/device/machine.

I know that is not an official definition, and I might be using the wrong terminology, but I'm basically asking if we have any energy devices that are more than 100% efficient.

Even 90% efficient would be something, though!

[velacreations]

Velacreations .. I don’t believe in over unity, I do believe in COP>1 ,OK so I'm just being picky however given that you understand that simply stick a wire in the air, Its been done for years it works and its free energy. Here's how http://www4.zetatalk.com/docs/Batter...arger_2006.pdf
of course if you want to drive cars and houses with it you'll have to learn what your actually doing and how to improve it . There's about 10 years of E.P.Dollards work can help you.
In the mean time you just asked for a system that works . for starting the thread that seems to be the end of it. QED

Has it been successfully replicated? I will read over that document, but I suspect is is very much like several antennae systems I have seen, none of which were able to be replicated to produce the power advertised.

[velacreations]

see, here's the problem I am seeing. People talk about free energy being possible, and then the conversation changes to a conspiracy keeping it quiet. I ignore the conspiracy aspect, because that can't be proven. It can only be discussed, proposed, alluded to, etc. But, it still doesn't get us any closer to where we want to be.

Conspiracies are distractions.

But we have thousands upon thousands of pages on this forum of devices, theories, tests, etc. The question is not "is free energy possible?" The Question is "Do we have anything that works?"

If something is working, we should be able to replicate it. Then, we can test it, measure it, and publish our results on these forums.

So, where should we put our efforts, where should our focus lie?

[velacreations]

Velacreations .. I don’t believe in over unity, I do believe in COP>1 ,OK so I'm just being picky however given that you understand that simply stick a wire in the air, Its been done for years it works and its free energy. Here's how http://www4.zetatalk.com/docs/Batter...arger_2006.pdf
of course if you want to drive cars and houses with it you'll have to learn what your actually doing and how to improve it . There's about 10 years of E.P.Dollards work can help you.
In the mean time you just asked for a system that works . for starting the thread that seems to be the end of it. QED

ok, I was right in my assumption, this is the same information that is regularly passed around, yet very few have made a viable replication of. In fact, I don't think I have ever seen a replication that produced more than 1 watt.

So, does this work? Have you tried it, tested it, measured it?

I have tested a few variations of this concept, using long stretches of coax, big polished aluminum plates, etc, and none of them charged a battery. In fact, very few even produced measurable energy. I wasn't able to get it to work. What's the trick for making it work?

[Duncan]

I cant make it easier than this!

ok, I was right in my assumption, this is the same information that is regularly passed around, yet very few have made a viable replication of. In fact, I don't think I have ever seen a replication that produced more than 1 watt.

So, does this work? Have you tried it, tested it, measured it?

I have tested a few variations of this concept, using long stretches of coax, big polished aluminum plates, etc, and none of them charged a battery. In fact, very few even produced measurable energy. I wasn't able to get it to work. What's the trick for making it work?

See as I said you start to talk of watts .. that’s very different from anything that works which is the question you asked. watts is a measurement of power, energy is a measure of power applied applied over time. for Instance if you have a charged battery you have many watts available for a considerable time. How much energy ? all depends how many batteries how many antenna's how much time and so it goes on. If I wanted lots of power I wouldn't build this. however you want a thing that works QED
I'm sorry your not capable of making this simple circuit work . Here is the simplest version of it I can find Free electricity - YouTube no coax no shiny plates It does however answer your base question .. anything that works … yes there is free energy … if you want to go further as I have pointed out there's a huge amount to learn and a whole power structure to change.
Have I seen this work? … yes .. you'll be able to light an LED with it in due course. It has a COP of infinity however it is not over unity.
Its a good starting point for a newbie genuinely interested in free energy ….. Its exactly that! it also answers you question and effectively closes this thread.