Mr Lester J Hendershot's magnetic generator.

[Dave45]

Hi Dave.

When a keeper is added the field becomes like that within a toroid - contained.

Ed Leedskalnin used the term magnetic current, and thus the magnetic energy is continuously mutual within the horseshoe/ keeper circuit, taking lines like those of speedway riders on a similar shaped circuit; ie. hugging corner apexes, broadening out through wider cross sections and intense through narrow ones like a keeper.
Thus there is no overall field outer looping the centre of the keeper and the top of your horseshoe in the drawing.

I'm not sure what all your drawings are meant to be indicating, especially the last set. Magnets cannot generate AC unles they or a conductor move, and in the Hendershot generator it is the field which is made to alternate within the keeper-buzzer circuit, thereby inducing a magnet biased Barhausen like avalanche of magnetic pulse through the keeper-buzzers cores.

The Barkhausen Effect experiment by Jean-Louis Naudin

Hysteresis Critical Point

Cheers ............ Graham.

Your exactly right the magnet field is contained inside the toroid the field Im showing is the A vortex field not the magnetic field.
The magnetic field is compressed space - static
The A vortex field is electric - kenetic

3-D Magnetostatic Field Simulation select solenoid then field lines

[clarence]

Hi Clarence,

It is very easy to make the compass needle spin continuously via fractional movement of the magnet backwards and forwards across the neutral zone - its all down to timing and co-ordination.

Cheers ......... Graham.

Hello GSM,

clarence,

I absorbed completely your return answer to my question Sir and I thank you for your expeditious efforts.

awhile back I had heard that when a coil is wrapped around a soft iron rod ( the no of turns being non specific) and subsequently when the coil is energized with circuit voltage that the soft iron rod would actually grow in length however miniscule that might be. and that when the voltage was stopped that the rod would return to its normal length. drawing from your vast personal data base, would that be correct or myth Sir. again it is immensely pleasureable to have your source of experience to draw from as I am sure all other members are aware.

thanks again Sir for your graciousness and efforts!
mike, onward!

[GSM]

And if we add the keeper

Hi Dave.

When a keeper is added the field becomes like that within a toroid - contained.

Ed Leedskalnin used the term magnetic current, and thus the magnetic energy is continuously mutual within the horseshoe/ keeper circuit, taking lines like those of speedway riders on a similar shaped circuit; ie. hugging corner apexes, broadening out through wider cross sections and intense through narrow ones like a keeper.
Thus there is no overall field outer looping the centre of the keeper and the top of your horseshoe in the drawing.

I'm not sure what all your drawings are meant to be indicating, especially the last set. Magnets cannot generate AC unles they or a conductor move, and in the Hendershot generator it is the field which is made to alternate within the keeper-buzzer circuit, thereby inducing a magnet biased Barhausen like avalanche of magnetic pulse through the keeper-buzzers cores.

The Barkhausen Effect experiment by Jean-Louis Naudin

Hysteresis Critical Point

Cheers ............ Graham.

[Dave45]

Hi Clarence,

It is very easy to make the compass needle spin continuously via fractional movement of the magnet backwards and forwards across the neutral zone - its all down to timing and co-ordination.

Cheers ......... Graham.

Do you think the pulsing in the buzzer coils are creating this spin on both ends of the iron keeper?

[GSM]

Hello GSM,

clarence ,

loved your explicit video!

Question sir: to remove my lack of knowledge on the subject, is there a point determined by the depth of the neutral zone where the magnet effect on the keeper/armature just keeps alternating the field reversal or not? Im asking because I was watching the back and forth movement of the compass needle.
I may not even have asked the question in an appropriate manner, so please bear with my lack of knowledge Sir.

your considerations and efforts in answering will definitely be greatly appreciated!

mike, onward!

Hi Clarence,

It is very easy to make the compass needle spin continuously via fractional movement of the magnet backwards and forwards across the neutral zone - its all down to timing and co-ordination.

Cheers ......... Graham.

[Dave45]

Lets look and see why a mag produces ac in a conductor

[Dave45]

Using a coil to represent a spinning field is a mistake, I made the same.

[Dave45]

And if we add the keeper

[Dave45]

A horseshoe magnet has some interesting quality's


JK Plasma Magnetics Experiment 1 - YouTube the kinetic field around the magnet

Ms paint is limited but you can see the field bends around the horseshoe magnet

[clarence]

Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion

Here demonstrated with a 5" ferrite rod (all I could find quickly).
Works with soft iron, but with more remanence, and thus greater physical displacement required.
I find the effect better when the armature/ keeper length is at least twice the distance between horseshoe pole faces.

Cheers .......... Graham.

Hello GSM,

clarence ,

loved your explicit video!

Question sir: to remove my lack of knowledge on the subject, is there a point determined by the depth of the neutral zone where the magnet effect on the keeper/armature just keeps alternating the field reversal or not? Im asking because I was watching the back and forth movement of the compass needle.
I may not even have asked the question in an appropriate manner, so please bear with my lack of knowledge Sir.

your considerations and efforts in answering will definitely be greatly appreciated!

mike, onward!

[GSM]

Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion

Here demonstrated with a 5" ferrite rod (all I could find quickly).
Works with soft iron, but with more remanence, and thus greater physical displacement required.
I find the effect better when the armature/ keeper length is at least twice the distance between horseshoe pole faces.

Cheers .......... Graham.

[Dave45]

I really think folks should start looping their systems, whatever they are working on.

We take input measurements and output measurements and when we dont see overunity it gets shelved, when maybe looping the system will give us the increase needed to self run or pull out excess energy.

Make it self run then worry about pulling energy from the system.

edit: Sorry I got way out of context, just thinking out load

[Dave45]

Iv been thinking on this, why couldnt a Newman motor be made to self run, instead of pulling energy from the system rectify it and put back through the system to make it self run.

I built a small one years back that ran and was fun to play with, I may build it again.

Hey you never know.

Coils from microwave oven transformers make good window motor or Newman motor coils

[Dave45]

That video is seriously INCORRECT.
Check out the only comment - it is correct !

I really did not listen to his comments, its the configuration I was pointing out,
he's putting current through the core kind of like the Newman motor works.
Some folks on youtube have taken the inner coil out and replaced it with a PM, I wonder if current were ran through the core.
Iv played with alternators a bit, it would be easy to check out.

Of course the collection coils and iron toroid would have to be removed but could be replaced with Newman coils or window motor coils that could be used to run current through the core-self running.

Whatever we build must be cheap and easily accessible so everyone can build it not just a few.

[GSM]

The problem I had studying the fields is the system is an ac system, that means the current is changing directions through the buzzer coils, therefore changing the field direction of the coils and how this relates to the magnet which does not change, this is where the iron comes into play.

Hi Dave.
Yes - remanence - a timed sequence of field storage-delay-release independent of other circuit characteristics.

With iron in between two magnets you can have n to n or any combination the iron is allowing the magnets field to be altered, so therefore when the buzzer coils fields change directions their not opposing the magnets field, it flips around the iron.

Yes, though with a delay due to quantisation effects associated with the composition and domain/ grain size within the core material.
Also - the magnetically induced field is associated with every single coupled overwind turn at the same time, and with each turn in series.
Thus the charge flow induced potential at winding ends is different to that expected by simplistically (simulators) viewing that same coil-core assembly as if a plain inductor.

Im not sure if you have seen this experiment Bloch Wall - YouTube Im sure this is a coil powered with ac but it needs to be done with dc,with pulsed dc, with an iron core,

I agree we are dealing with particles that have a gyroscopic spin, the faster we spin these particles in a magnet-vortex field the more energy they acquire.

I see nothing unusual with that video. A damped oscillating field is being sensed by another coil.

Re the gyroscopic spin.
The electrons are already orbiting; ie. they already are the 'electron gyroscopes'.

Thus it is the electron's AXIS of ROTATION (part of magnetic domain) we must additionally cause to spin/ precess, in order to exert forces upon electrons with respect to their associated atomic nucleii within the molecular lattice of iron, especially at lattice discontinuities between different elemental impurities within the core material.

It is quite possible that iron produced before our modern post-WW2 improved furnaces went on line had more impurities that suited an electromagnetically induced elemental change with associated (non-fission and non-fusion !!!) nuclear energy release; I don't know for sure though ?

MAGNETIC VORTEX SPIN its against the LAW built by Magnetflip.wmv - YouTube

That video is seriously INCORRECT.
Check out the only comment - it is correct !

Re the Hendershot motor. Yes like a modern alternator in reverse; it would run at a fixed speed from any of the Hendershot generators - as reported.
Also, being a magnet motor, it would present Back-EMF to the generator to assist tuned reactive oscillation (L or L+C) of the generated output.

There is NOT a vortex related to opposing magnets, but a uni-polar plane central to the outer poles.


Cheers ............. Graham.