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[Ufopolitics]

Same arguments...same BS...over and over...

I ported this post over here to make my reply because Ufopolitics said he'd delete it after I had a chance to read it. He did not want to disrupt dyetalon's ferrolens thread. I agree that his post is off-topic for that thread.

That's correct Bistander, that post is no longer there...and so am glad you copy-pasted here, saved me the effort to do it myself, so thanks!

And his post is the same crap he has whined about numerous times, typically pointed towards me. I feel I have countered his ridiculous claims with common sense and logic, but still he wrongly puts the blame for all the world's woes on electric machinery and associated science and technology.

Common sense and logic??...Come on Bistander, deep inside your toughts, you know am correct, you better than anyone else knows that.

Here is his latest. Posted about an hour ago on this thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/genera...tml#post310544

Post is no longer there...

So why does he think electric motors and electric generators fart, his terminology for burning fossil fuel and emitting polution? Electric machines do no such thing. Electric machines are clean, quiet, and very efficient energy converters. It is not the electric generator's fault someone chooses to power it with a combustion engine. The electric generator would be just as useful if it was powered by a non-polluting source like a wind turbine or hydro.

You are starting by putting the wrong words in your conclusions, and that is a known "method" you have...come on Bistander, use something else...it is getting too old by now!!

So why does he think electric motors and electric generators fart.

I NEVER WROTE THAT!!, anyone could re-read my original post and see if they find such BS.

I know very well Electric Machines does not "fart"...HOWEVER, NO ELECTRIC GENERATOR WOULD WORK WITHOUT A STINKING FARTING MACHINE.

The electric generator would be just as useful if it was powered by a non-polluting source like a wind turbine or hydro.

YOU ARE USING THE SAME BS AS ALWAYS, Bistander...WHERE is all your "common sense and logic" NOW?

WIND PLUS HYDRO are completely Geographical DEPENDENT NATURAL SOURCES...

There is not always "wind" to blow a generator with enough power...and it don't work with just a "breeze"
PLUS, there are only certain specific GEOGRAPHICAL ZONES all over the world, where STRONG winds are present in a higher percentage.

Hydro?...EVEN WORST EXAMPLE!!, Hydro requires FIRST, AN ELEVATION, THEN THE SPECIFIC WATERFALL...PLUS ALL LOGISTICS TO INSTALL THEN MAKE IT WORK...A whole "project" only possible by being sponsored by BIG CORPS...maybe EXXON MOBIL would do it?...

How about a FLAT Dessert, or a Flat Valley..NONSENSE, BS, and more BS?

To address his question "WHY THE F*CK ARE U ALL HERE?"

The same reason many members come here. The search for energy and means to improve the human condition. My methods differ, but is the cause less nobel? I don't think so.

Regards,

bi

More BS... NOW, how many HERE would believe you are for real?

Just answer question below

How many THREADS have you started HERE, where you can show Us...just ONE PROPOSAL to start at least a ONE FREE ENERGY PROJECT?...No matter how small it would be?

ABSOLUTELY ZERO

Anyone could check out your profile...started threads...NONE.

However, if we look at all your posts...ALL OF THEM ARE DISRUPTIVE, DECEIVING, RIDICULING THE OP, PLUS ALL HIS IDEAS AND WORK... AND I CAN CITE SO MANY, JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS DOING IT IN ALL MY THREADS.

However, I could not care less...am still going forward and your disruptions do not affect me at all...know why?...Just because I am VERY SURE about what I have experimented, and what I have to expose here.




Ufopolitics

[mikrovolt]

tiger tiger tiger

https://youtu.be/TDDu331J6YY

[bistander]

Wrongful blame

I ported this post over here to make my reply because Ufopolitics said he'd delete it after I had a chance to read it. He did not want to disrupt dyetalon's ferrolens thread. I agree that his post is off-topic for that thread. And his post is the same crap he has whined about numerous times, typically pointed towards me. I feel I have countered his ridiculous claims with common sense and logic, but still he wrongly puts the blame for all the world's woes on electric machinery and associated science and technology.

Here is his latest. Posted about an hour ago on this thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/general-discussion/20998-about-ferrocell-ferrolens-6.html#post310544

I am sorry to disrupt here Dyetalon,

But I could not hold back to answer Iamnuts about his post below...



It is a shame that an old -supposedly "respectable"- man, in all his years lived...who has created many new generations along the years, grandsons, grand daughters...and maybe even great-granddaughters/grandsons... can still NOT "see" what WE, (all Researchers, Inventors, Replicators plus Developers) on this Forum...are searching for.



Yes, there is indeed a lot of HI-TECH going on around these days...EXCEPT, AND IT IS JUST A HUGE SHAME...

That after having SO MUCH STATE OF THE ART on Electronics, Cybernetics...High Tech Communications, etc,etc...

WE ARE ALL STILL DEPENDENT UPON THE FREAKING FARTING, LEAKING AND STINKING DAMN MACHINES!!!

WE TRANSPORT ON THE DAMN MACHINES!!!

WE FLY, WE RUN WE SAIL "THANKS" TO THE DAMNED MACHINES!!!

ALL OUR WARS -WHERE MILLIONS DIE- ARE FOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE DAMNED BLACK STINKING AND POLLUTING FLUIDS!!!...JUST TO "CONQUER" MORE AND MORE "RESERVES"...YEAH BABY DRILL!!

ALL THE PLANET'S ENERGY COMES EXACTLY DEPENDENT UPON FARTING MACHINES!!!...EVEN A NUCLEAR PLANT, DEPENDS UPON A FARTING GENERATOR TO GET IT "STARTED"...OR OTHERWISE IT WILL NEVER WORK!!!

YEAH!!...OF COURSE YOUR GRANDPA...AND MANY GENERATIONS BACK...HAVE NOT SEEN "ANY MAJOR CHANGES"...AND OF COURSE HAVE NOT DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT!!

If You are so happy with what we all have so far...THEN WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE?

Same question applies to Bistander?

If the way you guys "think"..that every thing is "just fine and dandy"...then WHY THE F*CK ARE U ALL HERE??!!

Only answer is JUST to disrupt beautiful Threads like this one, maybe under the payroll of someone else...or really just "for free"

THE POINT BEING THAT NONE OF YOU TWO have absolutely NADA TO OFFER, but to "disagree"...or simply and "generously" offer other "ideas"...where such "ideas" just takes Us all and AWAY from the "RIGHT PATHS"

My apologies Dyetalon, I will delete this post AS SOON AS the "involved" read it...

Sorry about the disruption.

Regards

Ufopolitics

So why does he think electric motors and electric generators fart, his terminology for burning fossil fuel and emitting polution? Electric machines do no such thing. Electric machines are clean, quiet, and very efficient energy converters. It is not the electric generator's fault someone chooses to power it with a combustion engine. The electric generator would be just as useful if it was powered by a non-polluting source like a wind turbine or hydro.

To address his question "WHY THE F*CK ARE U ALL HERE?"

The same reason many members come here. The search for energy and means to improve the human condition. My methods differ, but is the cause less nobel? I don't think so.

Regards,

bi

[Les Banki]

All,

In reality, this is only for those who are GENUINELY

[citfta]

Hey Dave,

You're making my head hurt!

You are seriously correct though. We know a lot about electricity and at the same time almost nothing.

I am still tinkering away on a few projects when I have time. Nothing exciting to report.

Take care,
Carroll

[citfta]

Little Joke

Two atoms were talking.

First one says "I just lost an electron."

The second one asks "Are you positive?"

[Allen Burgess]

Tinman

Member Ramset, AKA Chet (Shamrat), has recently placed more feathers in his bonnet for 86ing "Tinman" off the Overunity site touting his special qualification as a non-builder moderator. I wrote Tinman a personal message and invited him to join us here at Energetic Forum where Augustus Snodgrass of the "Pickwick Papers" has no moderator privileges, and has been scolded by Aaron for his cynical dogmatisem.

[RAMSET]

EDIT

I see Allen's total nonsense post below...is a written untruth a Lie ??


Allen
Instead of lighting fires everywhere to distract...[example your lies ,fabrications and assumptions below ]

look at your own contributions.

and BEG scrutiny, don't shun it.....

Chet K

[bistander]

Claim?

... this Fernandez very simple claim !!
...
Fernandez must know his claim is very simple to investigate ...

Hi RAMSET,

I'm lost. What is the claim?

But an interesting post linked. Finally someone who appreciates Lenz's Law.

Regards,

bi

[RAMSET]

seaad

A resonator by its nature has certain requirements to work or resonate.
the fact that Fernandez offers the Clamp suggestion does make coil flipping an easy task.

seems a brutally simple concept meant to open eyes ?

I agree with your half measures comment ?
people feel what is in their head should just appear in others [soo simple guys ??]

hopefully
he will post a block schematic [although he would probably scream Look at the Tesla schematic??.
My mind races to too many other places and could use more specific "images".

but that's me ...maybe others can see this??
-------------------------------------
the thing is...recent conversations on the Steven Mark MO
are dancing all around this Fernandez very simple claim !!

hopefully Zeitmachine or others can get a simple block schematic from him.



respectfully
Chet K
PS
Fernandez must know his claim is very simple to investigate [with a few more details]
the skills to manage this resonator build [ frequency sweeping... nano pulsing etc etc] and investigate the claim are all in place.

and as always
open source

would not take much time at all but could take forever if running down the wrong rabbit hole

[seaad]

Fernandez
Another missionary telling A but not B ???
"Just take a tire jack"
"So its up to you and figure out if the primary's should be CW or CCW"

Regards / A

[RAMSET]

Ron

everyone who pays attention...
knows there is MUCH more to this world than meets the eye ...its like the tip of an iceberg.


here is something which rings very true

and lines up with recent thoughts on the TPU ...very simple thoughts but tricky to do ,hopefully Fernandez very simple suggestions/build will take the tricky outta the equation .

Timing is very important IMO

Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

Fernandez post number 261 ...

Edit... also post 246 mentions a few other details.



have a good day All

Chet

[i_ron]

Mention spirituality and I killed the list... it all went quiet! sorry, LOL

Ron

[i_ron]

My pleasure Citfta (for my small part on the discussion)

But really thinking deeply about it again...I came to think We all could've been missing "something" very important which we all lack to even think about when discussing Kevin Hay's Design...

Maybe We all should have taken some of Kevin Hay's Ormus Island Compound...and maybe that way it will open some intra-dimensional gates, taking our knowledge BEYOND Classic and Rational understanding...

Then get to "see things" we may have missed before...


Don't you all think so?!

Respectfully and Sincerely

Ufopolitics

Surprising that you should recognize our search for Free Energy is in actuality a thinly disguised search for spirituality.

But we should take care not to follow false paths.

Here is what Dave Lawrence (Awaken to vibration) says about ormus:

Quote:

Ormus will push the frequency upwards without regard to the life path balance.
It will force the higher frequency onto the physical body.

This may be used to glimpse the balance, or it can cause a greater imbalance where the physical looses communication with the astral body and attached to the counterfeit Ormus energy instead. That would create a dumb enlightenment with little personal intelligence.

This is like following a false savior off into endless paths that go no where, in the bliss state of the higher light with no form.

To actually ascend you must integrate to your own higher light self, and not to a bunch of atoms of Ormus.
However it does give you an introduction to the experience of the "rush" of the integration process, or resolving all lower emotions, into one stream of a higher energy state.

The key then, once you have experience it, is to then do it without the Ormus, using your own higher self.
Other wise you have a new addiction, and eventually will again spin wildly out of balance and loose your center, descending back down into animal level consciousness totally.


There is a difference in previewing the light, and in becoming it.
As the difference in previewing a strong healthy muscle, or having it on your body in working order.
When it is yours, it empowers you.

Some people are sold on the Ormus path, and have gotten extremely high frequency results in the body. It is powerful stuff, but then it wears off.

You can get similiar with MMS, or even Coilodal silver. MMS is intense for a short time, Coloidal Silver lasts longer but feels heavier. Ormus also wears off.

Take care,

Ron

[Ufopolitics]

Thanks to all involved in this discussion. I am so glad we could all come to the same understanding about this device. These kinds of discussions are what I was hoping this thread could be about when I started it. You guys did great! A solid technical discussion without any bashing or name calling. Just a rational discussion of the evidence presented with pros and cons as to what it meant.

Thanks again to all of you.
Carroll

My pleasure Citfta (for my small part on the discussion)

But really thinking deeply about it again...I came to think We all could've been missing "something" very important which we all lack to even think about when discussing Kevin Hay's Design...




















Maybe We all should have taken some of Kevin Hay's Ormus Island Compound...and maybe that way it will open some intra-dimensional gates, taking our knowledge BEYOND Classic and Rational understanding...

Then get to "see things" we may have missed before...



Don't you all think so?!


Respectfully and Sincerely



Ufopolitics