My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

[iankoglin]

Greetings Kogs:

The circuit is a John Bedini's pulse charging circuit from one of his patents. I'm using it to pulse a 117 strand SG coil rather than spinning the wheel. On the far right is a four position switch with capacitors attached which allows a wider range of frequencies to be available. (I've played this same trick with Bob French's circuit posted on the 'My Motors' thread.)

It's a handy little circuit, so give it a try.

glen

G'day Glen
would you please email me the schematic of your setup so I can examine it
Kindest Regards

Kogs always interested

[Midaztouch]

Vidbid

Yes, Stronger Magnetic Fields increase aspects favorably

Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

[vidbid]

The Effect of Increasing the Magnetic Field of the Stator Magnets

I don't know if this idea would be applicable to asymmetrical motors, but I'll throw the idea out there, anyways.

There's a video on YouTube that talks about increasing the magnetic fields on a conventional symmetrical motor, and it looks like something is happening.

STARGATE MOTOR FULL DEMO - YouTube

I'm wondering could the same be done for an asymmetrical motor?

Interesting question.

Regards,

VIDBID

[Ufopolitics]

Where I went wrong...

Hello to All,

I have done a simplified Diagram, in order to show, plus understand better where I went wrong on this Asymmetries...

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[Ufopolitics]

Good evening everyone,
I apologize for not responding earlier, was studying to see where I went wrong. I have very low experience with what is discussed here, as I said, I'm a doctor, after a certain age I started a course in mechatronics engineering (did only basic step - 2 years), it was not possible to reconcile the college and the hospital!! As a doctor, I'm a sonographer in the last 25 years. This makes me able to understand the principle of what is discussed here. In my profession work all day making and interpreting images in 1 dimension, 2 dimensions and 3 dimensions to 4 dimensions, and with these, everyone is love. After having repeated the instructions of Ed Leedskalnin, in your Magnetic Current book, I could see and understand what was said about my posts. Again, thanks to Midaz, Garry and UFO.
Good, going to my conclusions, in all forum is a place to discuss ideas and learn, learn, learn ....
Justifying my changes, I repeat, when I saw the UFO illustration showing the serial connection, I had no doubt that the result would be the winding the Ufo without the second switch, seemed to be the ideal solution. Of course I'd seen the original footage, explaining why the two switches, but could not see the differences.

Hello Flavio,

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If You are referring to the SERIAL CONNECTION at Right Hand Side.

Take a look at the way this works AGAIN Flavio...

The rear Jumper is joining together ONLY the MOMENTARY COILSRear Jumper works only with whichever Coils are making MOMENTARY CONTACT at Brush-ElementThe Input and Output Flows DO travel along shaft axis...BUT SEPARATED, INDEPENDENTLY ONE FROM EACH OTHERS...

This is the ONLY WAY that Coils will NEVER receive a reversed Input from our Source...

Don't try to look for "other ways"...I have spent years Developing this Technology...plus studying Nikola Tesla's Electrodynamic Machines...and You just started "yesterday"...Flavio...

Finally, Flavio...I would like to end this conversation here, because it brings confusion to other builders, or future readers...so, BUILD some REAL ASYMMETRIC MACHINES, with TWO(2) COMMUTATORS, then We will talk again.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[flaviop]

[Cornboy 555]

Thanks soo much for this UFO, you're a gem, I will get to winding as soon as time permits. Meanwhile I will study and digest, what you have shown, and try to limit the Questions.

Your diagrams are extremely helpful, my Friend, if you were trying to explain it to me with just words, I would be lost!!.

Once Again, Thanks UFO,

Warmest Regards Cornboy.

[Ufopolitics]

All North Mag 3

Well, just looking at the last page of posts, has inspired me incredibly, hello DANA, hope all is well with you, Midas, I have watched you grow, from asking questions about standard mainstream components for traction drives, to taking on a completely different perspective, and an open mind, I congratulate you.

UFO, I am glad you are ever evolving, with this tech, please do not stop moving forward, I know you feel for replicators, that have embraced your teachings so far, and have spent time and money, but it is still very cheap learning, as far as I am concerned.

KOGS, you're made of tough stuff.

For my little bit I will wind the stators of my MAG3, and wait for advice from someone who has wound an imperial to All North, and tested it before I wind my rotor, as for Me it is a major task.

All the Best Everybody, Cornboy.

Hello Cornboy,

First off, I want to thank YOU!! for getting back to FINISH MAG 3!...As I am very glad -as I can see- Things are getting better!

And this part is to ALL MY FRIENDS HERE, REPRODUCING THE BIG , MEDIUM AND SMALL ASYMMETRIC MACHINES...

I do not want to "Shine" here at all Guys...that is NOT my purpose!!, when I have displayed all this work for over two years (and I could have easily, reveal my real name and start selling Book$, Booklet$, Pdf'$, DVD'$...Making My $ite(s) "Members Only" and collecting $$ to join in...or giving out Conference$$...etc,etc...there are many ways..and you know)...BUT, my main Goal, guys...is that EACH OF YOU SHINES AS INDIVIDUAL RAYS of very Bright Light...in every corner of this Planet...generating a huge Illumination all over Earth...to make Tesla's Dreams come true...

"...This Planet could become a Second Sun..."

So, every time, anyone of You...come back here and show me their/your work...or Their/Your desires to start...or to continue their/your already started "Journey"...it makes me feel great!...I feel so great Guys, just because I see in everyone of You a Future Star of that Bright Light...and that, no matter where you guys be...you would be sending very positive and strong SIGNALS OF ENLIGHTENMENT to the Skies...

I wanna Thank You All!!

Well, now Cornboy, You will show Us all what are You made off...

Do not wind Stators Yet!!...start by Your Rotor and find out how much wire...how many turns per coil in the group...you could fit FIRST...ONLY THEN...You could start playing with Stators my Friend...so, Your Rotor will "dictate" what your stators be...

On the other hand...Your "Unique Machine" will run perfectly with just ALL NORTH STATORS ONLY...to test MOTORING POWER at Repulsion ...

So, to start winding/testing stators...just choose all Three North first...to get them magnetically balanced properly with your rotor groups...till achieving the super high speeds and torque...but then...you know that when turning on the South's...everything will increase...on top of what you had before.

The SOUTH STATORS will Increase/Assist Rotary Power and Speed...but mainly they will create/close the required "Connecting Spatial Field Belt" for Generation of Power at the Output Gates...

You could have lot's of fun, playing with Stators On-Off and pulsing them with Quad's, from both ends...however, realize that every time you turn them off , they will become generating coils also...


THE MAGNIFICENCE OF THREE ALL NORTH:


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Here I am just displaying the Motor Coils as a guide to the start winding "process", in order not to create confusion of the coils turning "sessions".

It is basically the same way I explained to Glen about his P66 (33 Poles)...and the Generating Coils "would come by themselves"Start G1, then do G13...Then do G25...This completes the first layer, and of course, you know thios first layer, MUST go AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO CENTER ROTOR CORE!! (I just "painted it outer, in order to distinguish coils better......well, it is obvious for everyone who has experience in motor winding...

So, putting it "cleaner":

Layer 1: G1, G13, G25

Then you wind

Layer 2: G2, G14, G26

And so on...as the DOTS INDICATE STARTING AND END Positioning for each GROUP FIRST COIL (1)

This way Your MAG 3 would be very well balanced...according to Copper distribution...as well as Magnetic Fields strength per each -in turn- Firing Group.

Now, A VERY IMPORTANT PART TO BE VERIFIED BEFORE PROCEEDING!!

Once that you have this Two Layers of Groups wound up and connected to commutators...I will highly recommend to make sure that Motor Brushes and Commutator elements...related to Stator positioning...are disconnecting LAYER 2 (when rotating as indicated)...Meaning, BEFORE The Center Pole of COILS (5) from G2, G14, G26 are Reaching SOUTH Stator Bisectors (Dotted Red Line) they must DIE! (DISCONNECT FROM COMMUTATOR ELEMENT-BRUSH!)

This is an IMPORTANT KEY here...because If this "ending Groups" are still "live" while reaching Stators Center...Rotor will suffer a big time Braking during operation...creating a huge counter-force to rotation.

So, I highly recommend to MOUNT ROTOR IN STATOR CASING...with just this two Layers...and DO NOT APPLY POWER!!...BUT...Measure Points with a Continuity Meter...making sure They do disconnect at the right timing...

After all this is clear...You could keep going to do all other "GROUP LAYERS"...ALWAYS IN THE SAME SEQUENCE AS THIS TWO!!

The end Points are the RED DOTS where SEQUENTIALLY Represent the LAST LAYERS that would complete Winding...or G12, G24 and G36...Then You are ALL done in the winding .

A Real Monster Machine My Friend...

I know You...as you will get back to me with questions... ...is OK, but just relax, have a Glass of Wine, sit down and analyze this way real slowly to digest it properly...


I may be correcting some minor errors...so keep checking this page every once in a while...and look for EDITS at the bottom (I will write them this way...not erasing and repairing on existing paragraphs)


Kind Regards


Ufopolitics

[Midaztouch]

@ All

I've been researching what is a bifilar coil. It seems to me that we have created a bifilar coil system in our A1 Mo-Gen Technology. The commutators independently energize the coils. Actually two coils could be energized at one time, therefore those two coils would be the "primary coil" and the two coils, one before and one after the primary coils, would be our secondary coils. Creating a type of transformer. There is some capacitance gain in coils before and after the primary coil/coils group.

Below is information/facts that I collected on bifilar coils. I added some comments that I need your facts to clarify. Please watch the vid by Old Scientist first. It's the best vid on bifilar coil vs standard coil that I could find.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uNAZ6heorEc

A bifilar coil is an electromagnetic coil that contains two closely spaced, parallel windings. In engineering, the word bifilar describes wire which is made of two filaments or strands. It is commonly used to denote special types of winding wire for transformers.

We have asymmetrically lapped windings. Each winding is Energized independently with a segmented commutator. .....Is this ok for the definition of Bifilar Coil?

Some bifilars have adjacent coils in which the convolutions are arranged so that the potential difference is magnified (i.e., the current flows in same parallel direction). The magnetic field created by one winding is therefore equal and opposite to that created by the other, resulting in a net magnetic field of zero (i.e., neutralizing any negative effects in the coil). In electrical terms, this means that the self-inductance of the coil is zero.

We have two coils energized at one time. Does that create one bifilar coil group that has a stronger magnetic flux(enhancing torque and energy output) in the primary coil group which leads to a stronger inductance/pre-charge in secondary coils?

The bifilar coil (more often called the bifilar winding) is used in modern electrical engineering as a means of constructing wire-wound resistors with negligible parasitic self-inductance.

We use a parallel bifilar system. We want more capacitance in the secondary coils. Is this correct?

A different type of bifilar coil is used in some relay windings and transformers used for a switched-mode power supply to suppress back-emf. In this case, the two wire coils are closely spaced and wound in parallel but are electrically isolated from each other. The primary coil is driven to operate the relay, and the secondary coil is short-circuited inside the case. When the current through the primary is interrupted, as happens when the relay is switched off, most of the magnetic energy is intercepted by the secondary coil. This is a method of absorbing the energy.

I didn't understand the back EMF in our system with bifilar coils. Can someone clarify this for me?

When used in a switching transformer, one winding of the bifilar coil is used as a means of removing the energy stored in the stray magnetic flux which fails to link the primary coil to the secondary coil of the transformer. Because of their proximity, the wires of the bifilar coil both "see" the same stray magnetic flux. One wire is clamped to ground usually by a diode so that when the other "primary" wire of the bifilar coil no longer has a voltage applied across it by the switching transistor, the stray magnetic flux generates a current in the clamping coil with the primary side voltage appearing across it, causing an equal voltage to appear across the primary winding. If this clamping coil was not used, the stray magnetic flux would attempt to force a current to flow through the primary wire. The primary wire is switched off and the switching transistor is in a high resistance state, the high voltage appears on the switching transistor

This part was very important for me. If we use one diode, an individual controls the A1 Mo-Gen (EV Mode) . If we don't use a diode motor goes into self resonance (Generator dominates).


Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

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[Midaztouch]

At all

While UFO is busy setting the protocol and test parameters for the A1 Mo-Gen, I've been looking at the generator section. Electric generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't let the size of the RS motor fool you. It's still like a mini Dynamo Generator! Dynamo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
What happens when it's over voltage and then pulsed with a pulse width modulator(PWM)? We get Higher RPMs and a stronger output current! If you don't have the proper test equipment, heart troubles, or just clumsy.... Please be careful!

Let's get a little deeper. A little bit bigger, longer than RS size motor and 9 pole. But you can still wrap your hand around it comfortably.

Let's up grade the A1 Mo-Gen in our minds.
Picture it with N52s magnets filling the case.(That's a Super Strong magnetic flux!)
We will need turbine air foil bearings to handle the rpms.
Ultra conductive magnetic wire.
Thermal and solar panels on the case
Rotor balanced
PWM
Thick wires from the generator, connected to a powerful ultra capacitor bank.

Do you see where I'm going with this? Example: Doctors/emergency help in the field, in poor countries and Disaster areas could use the energy stored in the Ultra Capacitors to run high energy test equipment to do quick vital diagnostics or detachable medical devices.
*PORTABLE DYNAMO GENERATOR*
I see the A1 Mo-Gen Technology as a powerful and useful technology! Experiment with it with care

Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

[GlenWV]

P66 Update

Greetings Mr. UFOPolitics:

The BSA will stay the way she is, and not go electric, but there are other motorcycle carcasses available. I want to drive a generator first, then a electrify a small car. (A dozer next??)

The two pole motor was my first hack at a larger motor after doing the Radio Shack proof of concept. I've run it @ 12 VDC turning a 120 VDC treadmill motor as a generator. A better mounting base needs to be built for this one. It does run smooth, though. (I got off this project working on a #14 gauge wire UFO coil hooked to high current mosfets. Now, that rascal thumps!)

On the P66, I wrapped 7 turns per coil to see how that would play and may go to 8 turns next try. If that is too much, then we'll shorten the wire and wind again.

The epoxy is just the way that it came from Imperial. I bought the armature new, by part number, and it had a shaft. My machinist friend made and installed the double ended shaft. (May put a buffing wheel on one end and polish motorcycle parts!! ;-) )

I appreciate your help and interest in this.

glen

[GlenWV]

SG3524 circuit

G'day Glen
Please what is the circuit schematic using the SG3524 and what is it for



Kindest Regards

Kogs always interested in something

Greetings Kogs:

The circuit is a John Bedini's pulse charging circuit from one of his patents. I'm using it to pulse a 117 strand SG coil rather than spinning the wheel. On the far right is a four position switch with capacitors attached which allows a wider range of frequencies to be available. (I've played this same trick with Bob French's circuit posted on the 'My Motors' thread.)

It's a handy little circuit, so give it a try.

glen

[Ufopolitics]

Sneaking through your Pic's Glen...lol

Greetings all:

Thank you Mr. UFOPolitics for the very nice, and big, drawings. They are most helpful and I appreciate it.

Some new pics are posted on Photobucket: TestWind3_zps72663f14.jpg Photo by GlenWV | Photobucket

I grabbed a piece of #18 gauge wire to do a test wind with, just to get a feel for the fit. Some #17 ga. is available and I was considering it, but I think that #18 ga. will be heavy enough.

Also, the wire length of each coil group will be longer than what I had with my first large motor wind:
15898EF2-E02D-4DEB-A2B9-7DB34822416F-178-0000000DB76F3C13.jpg Photo by GlenWV | Photobucket

So, the next thing is to dig out some old coils that are lying about and recycle the wire for test winding this armature. I want to wind at one side completely to see just how much wire can be stuffed onto this thing.

More to come...

glenWV

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About this nice 1/2 HP Porter Motor converted to Asymmetric, North-South I imagine...never saw it before...how many poles?...magnet stators or wound fields?

..How did it go with it?

LOL...Too many questions... !!

Now about the P66...

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It seems you could easily get around five turns per coil there w/18 awg right?, and that would be 5X6=30T...which is about equivalent to Kogs Imperial P56 N-S 15 T per PAIR...just got to push at corners in order not to curve too much at vertical runs...when you start is easy to get them shaped with a wood paint stick, and pulled right, one by one...but when there are too many coils/groups you will need a hydraulic press...

Another thing...we do not need to epoxy the whole thing on this "Test Armatures" guys...but only, after we slide the hedges , or wire retainers...to use small epoxy drops just at center ant ends between steel and hedge...that would hold it in place...then the final coils that would be sticking too much on tops shoulders...to touch them on wires groups...without soaking the whole armature.

This is in order to be able to take it apart easily if we need to redo it...I am regretting that I set so much epoxy on my Imperial

Please let Us know when you do a first run on it!!

Look Awesome!


Regards


Ufopolitics

P.D: On Photobucket, you could also load pic's by copying IMG at PB...then load link on editor here with small yellow picture icon. This way everyone sees picture even without Login in...

[iankoglin]

G'day Glen
Please what is the circuit schematic using the SG3524 and what is it for



Kindest Regards

Kogs always interested in something