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  • Ditto....................
    Prochiro
    "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
    Nikola Tesla

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    • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
      Be careful what you write here...

      You should engage your small fingers with your small little brain before writing such stupid thing like above...and expecting that by such stupid apology, everything would be fine.

      WOW!!, THAT PROVES YOU ARE SUCH A SMART ***
      If you are telling the truth then you have nothing to worry about and no reason to get mad.

      If you can't figure out the fact that giving money or blindly supporting any old fool who claims he will give you free energy is a stupid idea then it is you who has a small brain. Sugar coated lies distract from the truth and disinformation is a form of suppression, so be careful you don't one day get accused of being the one who is receiving the cheques.
      http://www.teslascientific.com/

      "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

      "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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      • Mannnn, who needs TV, when you can be entertained like this.
        Warm Regards All, Cornboy.

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        • Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
          If you are telling the truth then you have nothing to worry about and no reason to get mad.

          If you can't figure out the fact that giving money or blindly supporting any old fool who claims he will give you free energy is a stupid idea then it is you who has a small brain. Sugar coated lies distract from the truth and disinformation is a form of suppression, so be careful you don't one day get accused of being the one who is receiving the cheques.
          I hope we do receive a giant fat check/grant/sponcer! That would forever open the door to human prosperity! Not only with this technology reduce the price on everything! It would improve the quality of our health, the air we breathe, water we drink, the food we eat, an abundance of energy, better housing, the freedom to travel and transport as we please! You know, the essentials of life!

          I see many of you so call "scientist" with 10s of thousands of dollar$, in parts and failed or experiments in your Contraptions Lab! How could you be "concerned" about us spending our money on an inexpensive cutting-edge technology that works! I can see you now, sitting in front of your computer screen with all of your JUNK, disappointed broke and angry! All you can do is look at this thread growing and growing. Out of frustration and jealousy you "Scientist" or should I call you "Haters", come to our thread and vent your "concerns" that are baseless, No scientific rebuttal at all! What a joke!

          Why don't you guys get your act together, join the winning team, and then maybe, we can have some serious dialogue. Other than that , beat it lames! Go back to your hole! Go bully someone else on the Internet! There are no kids here, only adults!

          For real men & women that work hard... We can afford this education!

          Richard
          Last edited by Midaztouch; 07-15-2014, 05:03 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Midaztouch View Post
            That would forever open the door to human prosperity! Not only with this technology reduce the price on everything! It would improve the quality of our health, the air we breathe, water we drink, the food we eat, an abundance of energy, better housing, the freedom to travel and transport as we please! You know, the essentials of life!
            But how so? Are you just rewinding motors in the hope that it's more efficient or "different" somehow, or is there supposed to be OU? If so, in what form, and why won't anyone demonstrate it?

            If I was to buy a cheap small motor and rewind it according to UFO's method, what should I expect to see other than a turning rotor?

            An established test procedure to prove whatever it is that's supposed to be proved would be good.
            http://www.teslascientific.com/

            "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

            "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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            • Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
              But how so? Are you just rewinding motors in the hope that it's more efficient or "different" somehow, or is there supposed to be OU? If so, in what form, and why won't anyone demonstrate it?

              If I was to buy a cheap small motor and rewind it according to UFO's method, what should I expect to see other than a turning rotor?

              An established test procedure to prove whatever it is that's supposed to be proved would be good.
              green describes you very well
              Its easy to see you have not even looked at the progress of those here
              you are answering to things you know nothing about
              Last edited by iankoglin; 07-15-2014, 03:11 AM. Reason: correction

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              • A1 Mo-Gen

                Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                But how so? Are you just rewinding motors in the hope that it's more efficient or "different" somehow, or is there supposed to be OU? If so, in what form, and why won't anyone demonstrate it?

                If I was to buy a cheap small motor and rewind it according to UFO's method, what should I expect to see other than a turning rotor?

                An established test procedure to prove whatever it is that's supposed to be proved would be good.
                Ok, I see your interested in Asymmetric Uni-polar Motor Generators, "A1 Mo-Gen". It would have been nice if you had read the last 20 pages first. But I will be cool anyway.

                I was a 100% rookie. I never built a motor but what was being discussed on this thread made sense to me. I built the asymmetric 56 Imperial N/S four times. I made many mistakes. I followed everyone else and we made a north-south motor winds asymmetric motors. After various testing we found out that, the electrons get backed up and disarrayed in the asymmetric north/south winding.

                Only A few weeks ago, we reached the all North winding style! The electrons flow like an express super electron highway through our A1 Mo-Gen! I've been studying motors for two years, many hours a day. There is no mainstream motor or any other that I have read about is like our A1 Mo-Gen! Dollar$ for dollar$, system pound for system pound, RPMs for RPMs, watts for watts, there was no motor on this planet that I read about, that can even come close to what this motor can do! The A1 Mo-Gen is a true motor/generator! A compact powerhouse all in one!!!!

                Are you starting to feel me now!?

                Please choose your words wisely! This thread has had over 740,000 views and soon to be over 1 Million!

                Since I'm buying stuff from a fool. Could you please, educate me on his mistakes or mine?

                Richard
                Last edited by Midaztouch; 07-15-2014, 09:25 AM. Reason: Spelling

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                • Originally posted by Midaztouch View Post
                  Only A few weeks ago, we reached the all North winding style! The electrons flow like an express super electron highway through our A1 mo-Gen! I've been studying motors for two years, many hours a day. There is no mainstream motor or any other that I have read about is like our A1 Mo-Gen! Dollar$ for dollar$, system pound for system pound, RPM for RPM, watts for watts, there was no motor on this planet' that I read about, that can even come close to what this motor can do! This is a true motor/generator! A compact powerhouse all in one!!!!
                  So there is not actually supposed to be OU, just higher efficiency in simple terms?

                  Thanks for giving a rational response.
                  http://www.teslascientific.com/

                  "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                  "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                  • Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                    So there is not actually supposed to be OU, just higher efficiency in simple terms?

                    Thanks for giving a rational response.
                    Ok Dude! I see! You want someone to say that the "A1 Mo-Gen is Over Unity"!


                    @ Team,

                    Well, I'm not a professor, expert, guru or even an electrical engineer. But the A1 Mo-Gen 4 stators and above, are all awesome! We will begin building and testing of the 4 stator all North winds soon! Energy alliance is the key to success! Please continue promoting what we're doing!

                    Now, let me leave you with some food for thought...

                    1.) We all know that the all north asymmetric 5 pole(2 stators/2pole north group wind)is about 51% motor and 49% generator. It has 2 inputs & 2 outputs. The 2 stators run on 1 input. Leaving 1 output to produce and collect energy.

                    2.) The all all north asymmetric 56 pole(4 stator/6pole north group wind, "Imperial Motor"). It has 4 inputs & 4 outputs. The 4 stators can run on 1 input. Leaving 3 outputs to produce and collect electricity.
                    Keep it Clean and Green
                    Midaz
                    Last edited by Midaztouch; 07-15-2014, 05:31 AM.

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                    • I'm in.

                      Just to say I've placed an order for the UFO motor kit.

                      I did message UFO and quite understandably he didn't reply in the midst of all the "this and that"

                      Only been a member for a short time but have had some very helpful insight via PM's.

                      OU may be a myth.....it may not.....from the information I've watched and researched on this motor I honestly can't be sure. (no offense) I just don't have the knowledge or understanding of everything just yet. But am willing to learn and give it a try.

                      I have to find out for myself , and if it means buying a kit and actually doing something to test the theory in the hope it can be for the good of the planet then so be it. OU would be a bonus, a more efficient motor would be better than nothing.

                      I am unable to judge anyone on this forum without having tried it myself and as such cannot give credence to the perceived positive or negative comments until I try it myself.

                      (I will not be replying to any posts in relation to my post here except via PM.)

                      It is simply to let the community and UFO know there is a new NOVICE tester on board and my ethos in this venture. Which is mainly due to UFO's and others continued attitude of free sharing. Thank you.

                      6 weeks and counting for delivery of the kit.

                      Kindest regards,

                      Finn.

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                      • Time and money

                        Now it's not that I have a lot of time or money to spare but the fact is that I will do with it what I damn well please to. I just wish these people would stop trying to save me no matter what thread I am reading.

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                        • Originally posted by Fingregor123 View Post
                          Just to say I've placed an order for the UFO motor kit.

                          I did message UFO and quite understandably he didn't reply in the midst of all the "this and that"

                          Only been a member for a short time but have had some very helpful insight via PM's.

                          OU may be a myth.....it may not.....from the information I've watched and researched on this motor I honestly can't be sure. (no offense) I just don't have the knowledge or understanding of everything just yet. But am willing to learn and give it a try.

                          I have to find out for myself , and if it means buying a kit and actually doing something to test the theory in the hope it can be for the good of the planet then so be it. OU would be a bonus, a more efficient motor would be better than nothing.

                          I am unable to judge anyone on this forum without having tried it myself and as such cannot give credence to the perceived positive or negative comments until I try it myself.

                          (I will not be replying to any posts in relation to my post here except via PM.)

                          It is simply to let the community and UFO know there is a new NOVICE tester on board and my ethos in this venture. Which is mainly due to UFO's and others continued attitude of free sharing. Thank you.

                          6 weeks and counting for delivery of the kit.

                          Kindest regards,

                          Finn.
                          G'day Finn
                          Welcome aboard I am sure you will do very well here and you will not be disappointed.
                          I do suggest firstly if you have not already done, buy 3 small RS motors or 3 Goldmine motors and from 2 of them you can follow the instructions previously detailed earlier in this thread and make one asymmetric motor.

                          You need 2 motors because you need two commutators, two brush boards and from the 2 cases you make a longer one to cater for the extra commutator and brush board also you probably might need an extra shaft.

                          The third one is to compare the new one against the old one

                          I think by making the small motor first it will not require many $$'s and you will gain a lot of and needed experience and once you have don this motor you will be able to breeze through the winding of the Imperial P56

                          I am sure you will be able to modify these motors and if you have any difficulties Just post here there are ones here that will direct you in the right direction

                          Even though there is a lot of rubbish going on here you will get the help you need and also if you do have problems others new here can also learn from your overcoming them
                          Looking forward to your builds

                          Kindest regards

                          All my friends call me Kogs

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                          • Hi Kogs,

                            Thank you for your constructive reply. I had thought that the UFO kit contained all the essentials required, however if you state that I require two kits to build one of the motor/generators then I will do so. Had hoped to keeps some reserve $'s for the guy who will be winding my motor and assisting. We don't have much money but plenty of time.

                            Thanks again..

                            Best

                            Finn.

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                            • Tried editing previous post but Pc playing up....

                              would anything from here suffice to cut our teeth on while waiting the UFO Kits?

                              Maplin | Maplin - The Electronics Specialist | Order Online for Fast Delivery

                              Have one close by....well close ish.

                              Regards

                              Finn.

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                              • Some Due Explanation on my end...and The O.U. "Game"...

                                Hello Midaz, Hello to All,

                                Let me explain "how this works" for this People asking for O.U...it is a very simple equation, so, let's take a look at this so simple approach.

                                I have been "through this" so many times before...and it seems we are talking about High Level Algebras with Integers at infinite limits or Quaternion Equations Calculus...BUT IT IS NOT...it is so simple, even Your Kids at School could decipher this lingo.

                                1-Starting from the word "Unity" which means 1/1 or One(1) over or divided by One(1) and that equals=One (1)

                                1/1=1=UNITY

                                Where Our Input (I) goes in the lower or subdivision and our Output (O) goes on the top meaning: O/I

                                2- Therefore, if We have: 0.5/1=Then We have "UNDERUNITY"

                                3- And if We have 1.5/1= We have "OVERUNITY"

                                Still, if We have 1.0001/1= We still have "OVERUNITY"

                                As, if We have 0.999999/1= We still have UNDERUNITY

                                C.O.P. is the "Coefficient Of Performance"...which translates into another first grade math...

                                All We need to do for C.O.P. is to Divide both numbers and for EFFICIENCY to multiply COP by 100 to obtain percentage rates.

                                1-COP of UNITY (1/1)=1 EFFICIENCY=COPX100=100%...So the COP of UNITY is exactly 1.

                                2-COP of UNDERUNITY at (0.5/1)=0.5 EFFICIENCY=COPX100=50%

                                2a-COP of UNDERUNITY at (0.99999/1)=0.9999 EFFICIENCY=COPX100=99.99%

                                3-COP of OVERUNITY at (1.5/1)=1.5 EFFICIENCY=COPX100=150%

                                3a-COP of OVERUNITY at (1.01/1)=1.01 EFFICIENCY=COPX100=101%

                                3b-COP of OVERUNITY at (1.001/1)=1.001 EFFICIENCY=COPX100=100.1%

                                ...and so on for every value on top we have different total results which go all the way to INFINITY(&) Possibilities.

                                As dR-Nogreen stated above...They either understand it is an OU Machine or it is a High Efficiency Machine...so, there is absolutely NO RECOGNITION AT ALL that ALL OUR MACHINES DELIVER AN ELECTRICAL OUTPUT, besides being EFFICIENT and ALL Delivering a High Torque and High Speed Performance (And, no matter if N-S or All North Winding, please, let's not enter into those details with them, just because they do not give "a who" either way)

                                RESUMING: This Guys want OU...or IF NOT OU, then, for Us to "accept" ..."IT IS ONLY A HIGHER EFFICIENCY MOTOR"...AND IT IS NOT!

                                WE CAN FIND NUMEROUS SYMMETRIC MOTORS OUT THERE THAT ARE IN THE HIGH NINETY'S PERCENT "MECHANICALLY" EFFICIENT, BUT NONE (READ ME WELL HERE) NONE, BESIDES BEING "MECHANICALLY" EFFICIENT, DELIVER AN ELECTRICAL OUTPUT BACK TO THE SOURCE, NO MATTER HOW SMALL THAT OUPUT ELECTRICAL VALUE WOULD BE...NONE OF THE CLOSED LOOPED SYMMETRICAL MACHINES CAN EVER DO THAT!

                                Now about Measuring OU in our Machines...

                                The MAIN THING HERE We ALL must have in mind, BEFORE WE PROCEED:

                                ALL OUR MACHINES ARE UNIQUE, DIFFERENT, WHEN COMPARED to ANY OTHER ONE OUT THERE IN PRODUCTION AND IN THE SHELF OF ANY MOTOR-GENERATOR STORE

                                The underlined statement, is done so no one comes here talking about "X" Model or "Y" Prototype built from whoever...just because AM TALKING ABOUT ROBUST MACHINES THAT ARE READY TO GO ON PRODUCTION LINES AS I WRITE HERE.

                                ALL OUR MACHINES ARE -SO FAR- CONVERTED FROM ALMOST (I WOULD SAY 90%) OF ANY EXISTING SIZE MOTOR OUT THERE, FROM THE SMALLEST LITTLE MOTORS TO HUGE SCALE IN ACTUAL PRODUCTION LIKE IMPERIAL, OR EVEN THE BIGGEST TRACTION MOTORS ARE CONVERTIBLE TO ASYMMETRICAL TYPES...AND JUST BY DOING SOME MINOR STRUCTURAL AND REWINDING ALTERATIONS WE HAVE THE FINAL PRODUCT READY TO GO AND BE ASSEMBLED ON ANY OF THEIR SPECIFIC APPLICATIONS THEY WERE BUILT TO...

                                MEANING, WE DO NOT EXPOSE HERE, ANY HUGE OUT OF THE "ORDINARY" SIZE "WHEELS OF FORTUNE" TYPE MACHINES... MADE OF STEEL, ALUMINUM, PLEXIGLASS OR WHATEVER...NOR "BICYCLE WHEELS CONTRAPTIONS"...ALL THOSE CONTRAPTIONS, EVEN PROVING OU, NONE OF THEM WILL BE GOOD/FUNCTIONAL FOR THE REAL WORLD APPLICATIONS...MEANING NONE OF THEM ARE "MARKETABLE"...HOWEVER, ALL OUR MACHINES ARE... CAPISCI?


                                AND I DON'T MEAN TO CRITICIZE, NOR TO RIDICULE ALL THIS MODELS OR PROTOTYPES...THEY ARE ALL EXCELLENT FOR "PROVING A CONCEPT" FROM THE SCIENTIFIC FIELD POINT OF VIEW...BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE NOT READY TO PERFORM AT THE LEVEL OF THE EXISTING ONES OUT THERE.

                                AND, OUR ASYMMETRIC TECH IS NOT LIMITED TO PERMANENT MAGNET MOTORS EITHER...WE HAVE DONE HERE MANY SUCCESSFUL TESTS WITH UNIVERSAL MOTORS AS WITH BRUSHLESS TECHNOLOGIES...AND THEY ALL WORK AS WELL.

                                NOW, ALL OUR MACHINES GENERATE TWO(2) OUTPUTS , ONE(1) ELECTRICAL GENERATION AND ONE (1) MECHANICAL OUTPUT

                                SO, IN ORDER TO TEST FOR OVERUNITY WE MUST INCLUDE BY ADDING BOTH OUTPUTS, MECHANICAL PLUS ELECTRICAL.

                                Getting back to the Kindergarten Formulas about calculating OU:

                                In Our Machines We must add TORQUE/SPEED PERFORMANCE PLUS ELECTRICAL "RETURN" OR OUTPUT to be "installed" above the decimal equation or:

                                Asymmetric OU Calculation= Electrical Output (EO) PLUS Mechanical Output (MO)=EO+MO= TOTAL ASYMMETRIC OUTPUT

                                And Our Input is still the same old as any other existing machine...Electrical Input (EI)

                                So, in Our Machines We must Measure UNITY=EO+MO/EI which means:

                                Electrical Output(EO)+Mechanical Output(MO) Divided by Electrical Input (EI)

                                Now, when we start the "Big Issues" in Argumants and Controversy...is when it comes to measuring the Mechanical Output of our Machines...just because Our Technology Development so far in this Planet, does not offer a common/general and cheap/reliable/feasible way to measure Foot/Pounds of Torque in smaller machines...we search and we find all kind of contraptions that are not precise, complex, and a bunch of different measurements, Prony's, Phony's, etc,etc...in other words it is a Zoo to look for a Dyno for small machines...well after all that, then we have to argue with the "experts" in this fields of OU. related if it was not done properly measured...or other bla,bla,bla's...

                                Other words..."A Never Ending Saga"...

                                And unfortunately, the very precise Dynamometers out there are too expensive, beyond our limited budgets here guys...and even so, they are made for big size machines.

                                NOW, IT IS COMPLETELY UNFAIR, TO MEASURE OUR MACHINES OUTPUT, BASED ON ONLY ELECTRICAL OUTPUT TO ELECTRICAL INPUT, DISREGARDING THEIR HIGH LEVEL PERFORMANCE AT THEIR MECHANICAL OUTPUT.
                                AS IS ALSO UNFAIR TO MEASURE JUST MECHANICAL OUTPUT TO ELECTRICAL INPUT, DISREGARDING ELECTRICAL OUTPUT.


                                I HAVE SPENT THOUSANDS OF USD (LEGAL TENDER NOTES OR U.S DOLLARS) PLUS HUNDRED OF HOURS TO BUILD DYNO'S TO TEST OUR MACHINES...VIDEOS ARE ALL OVER MY YT CHANNEL...JUST TO SATISFY THE "AUDIENCE" OF THIS SKEPTICS AND THE OU REQUESTER CROWD...AND STILL THEY WERE NOT PLEASED...ALL THIS DEBATES ARE IN PREVIOUS PAGES ON THIS THREAD:

                                THIS IS SIMPLY WHY...I GET UPSET, WHENEVER I SEE THEM COMING AGAIN HERE TO ASK FOR THE SAME EXACT THING WE ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING BEFORE...AND THAT HAS TAKEN ME, COMPLETELY, AWAY FROM KEEPING MY NORMAL DEVELOPMENT AND TEACHINGS TO ALL OF YOU THROUGH MY VIDEOS, DIAGRAMS AND MY WORK IN GENERAL HERE...JUST TO "SATISFY" THEIR "SELF NECESSITIES".

                                BELOW IS A TORQUE TEST VIDEO ON MY IMPERIAL P56 (N-S TYPE), WHERE I AM MEASURING ONLY MECHANICAL OUTPUT VERSUS ELECTRICAL INPUT, THEREFORE, I AM NOT CONSIDERING/READING, ELECTRICAL OUTPUT...MEANING TWO GATES OF THIS IMPERIAL MOTOR ARE JUST OPEN, EXHAUSTING ENERGY FREELY TO THE AIR...

                                TORQUE_TEST_ONE

                                AND YOU MOST REALIZE, THIS "DEBATES" EXPAND IN TWO WORLDS...ENERGETIC FORUM PLUS YOU TUBE CHANNEL...WHERE I HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH ALL KIND OF "PUBLIC AFFAIRS".

                                You Guys could go to COMMENTS on the above video...and check all the time wasted on just arguments and responses back and forth...what I take for me, are ALWAYS the POSITIVE VIEWS, POSITIVE COMMENTS, and as you can see there are some there.

                                ANOTHER VIDEO CONNECTING MECC ALTE GENERATOR TO ASYMMETRIC IMPERIAL (N-S), OBTAINING 1000W OUT IN RATED INCANDESCENT LAMPS:

                                ONE ENERGY METER READ OUT TEST 1


                                I WILL COME BACK TO REDO ALL THIS TESTS...ONCE I FINISH THE STILL PENDING TO ARRIVE IMPERIAL P56 (SAME AS SHOWN ON VIDEOS), BUT THIS TIME WOUND WITH THE ALL NORTH TYPE, TO MAKE COMPARISONS IN ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND OUTPUT...

                                FINAL NOTE: SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST...FOR THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH ME ALL THIS TIME...THEY KNOW ALL THIS GOING ON...SO, MAINLY I AM DOING THIS LONG EXPLANATION FOR ALL THE NEW MEMBERS WALKING IN AND OBSERVING THIS "SOAP OPERA" ABOUT UFO SHOWING OR NOT SHOWING OU...IT MAY LOOK LIKE THAT I HAVE NOT TRIED TO SHOW THEM, TO PLEASE THEM...EVER...BUT THIS WAY, YOU SEE THAT I DID...VIDEOS ARE TIME STAMPED, AND YOU ALL KNOW I CAN NOT CHANGE THE UPLOADED DATES.


                                KIND REGARDS TO ALL...


                                UFOPOLITICS

                                EDIT 1: I Corrected all COP explain, adding EFFICIENCY as the percentages, since COP is just the division number between O/I
                                Last edited by Ufopolitics; 07-15-2014, 04:56 PM.
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