Use for the Tesla Switch

[lamare]

Found these on keelynet archive

There's an interesting article about the Tesla switch at keelynet:

The Wiseman Theory of Energy Conservation

http://www.textfiles.com/bbs/KEELYNET/ENERGY/flexflo.asc

[kent_elyue]

There's an interesting article about the Tesla switch at keelynet:

The Wiseman Theory of Energy Conservation

http://www.textfiles.com/bbs/KEELYNE...GY/flexflo.asc

Greetings! Thank you kindly for the link. In all my travels I've never come across that document before. Thanks sincerely.

The experiments mentioned therein are exactly the kinds of things I have been doing on my workbench. If only I could work as fast as my imagination does...

[nvisser]

There's an interesting article about the Tesla switch at keelynet:

The Wiseman Theory of Energy Conservation

http://www.textfiles.com/bbs/KEELYNE...GY/flexflo.asc

Hi have you got a link to the diagrams, as the attathments are not very good quality and are unreadible when printed out

[kent_elyue]

I found the pictures here:

http://www.anomalies.net/archive/Keely-Net/Diagrams/FLEXFLO1.GIF

http://www.anomalies.net/archive/Keely-Net/Diagrams/FLEXFLO2.GIF

http://www.anomalies.net/archive/Keely-Net/Diagrams/FLEXWAT1.GIF

http://www.anomalies.net/archive/Keely-Net/Diagrams/PROOF1.GIF

Alternately, you can get the same four pictures from these two zip files:

http://www.keelynet.com/expcirc/flexflo.zip

http://www.keelynet.com/expcirc/proof.zip

[redeagle]

I used the schematic provided in the mueller report to arrange my transistors. i am using a bipolar motor with 6 independant triggers to run the switching system. As soon as i turn it on the transistors started to heat up which the current that was going to my motor power coil, the transistors never heated up before. I traced back through the schematic and found out why they did that. The two transistors that are closest to the bridge create a hot short when they turn on. I disconnected these two and left the 4 that create the alternating current going to the bridge and it functions fine now. Still have to load test it though.

[Inquorate]

Fast (nanosecond) switching idea

how long do diodes take to oppose electron flow?

Surely that's nanoseconds, at least for some type of diodes?? My scope should come in the next few days, I'll look into it...

Love and light

[Matthew Jones]

You can fire the transistors nearest to the ground with ground energy from the CHARGING BATTERY. Eliminating your heat / ground. If memory serves me right.
If your using normal NPN transistors. Somthing along the lines of a TIP3055.

If you probe through transistor setup's you can find several ways of turning on the transistor without any ground present. Just build a one way setup with no switching. Add transistors at the key points. (IE the series connection in the batteries) Then start probing for firing. The series for example will fire from teh hot side of the series connection.

I have schematic but I will be couple of more days before I can post it. I am away now.

Keep us up to date.

Cheers
Matt

[kent_elyue]

Spice Simulation

I have mocked up a simulation of a solid state version using LTSpice. I seem to have worked out some important bugs using the simulator. Now to take it to the next stage, an actual working device... So many things to keep straight in my mind. And so many unknowns still.

I can provide the spice file if anyone is interested. For now, here's the circuit diagram I plan to use. Will it work? Time will tell, though I expect progress will be slow, as in a month or more.

I split it into two sections for clarity. All 8 coil windings are on the SAME toroid core.

(Oops. I originally posted the Switching Circuit incorrectly. M4 and M6 *were* upside down. The schematic below has now been corrected. I also simplified the oscillator section.)

[morpher44]

Tesla Switch Replication Notes

I tried replicated the Tesla Switch using
four 8.4V 150mAh Nickel-Metal Hydride 9V rechargeable batteries
and two double-poll-double-throw relays.

I was able to get the current to flow back and forth
and run motors, incandescent light bulbs, and LEDs for
what seemed to me to be LONGER than had I run
them with just 4 batteries.
But, I found that the relays were too slow and that the
pulse timing was KEY.
If you have the pulse on too long, the current flows
into the load and not your batteries.
If too short, the load isn't able to see enough current.
So a balance must be struck -- it must be TUNED.
And tuning is manual and changes with temperature, the load, etc.
One could imagine using a microcontroller to auto-tune
in a fuzzy logic way with hedging.
So my point here, I guess, is that yes this can be made
to work very nicely, but the tuning probably is a bit problematic
unless its "smart".

I think led acid batteries are better here. There is something
very magic about the way the led-acid batteries charge.
The internal chemistry flow has its own resonant frequency
that possibly can be exploited to get chemical current flow
to occur in the charging direction while using a small bit
of power in your loads.

The interesting thing about the Tesla Switch is that if your
load is a low-resistance load, that is more ideal actually.
So the notion of INCREASING your load (making the resistance less)
is a GOOD thing.

I think the Tesla Switch idea is amazing. Brilliant.
Even if its not OU ... its very efficient ... with COP approaching 1
if you tune well, have low resistance loads that don't produce heat
and friction.

So the "free" energy can come from solar or wind ... and the Tesla Switch
approach is a more efficient way to use your harvest of energy.

[wrtner]

But, I found that the relays were too slow and that the
pulse timing was KEY.

Apparently, the duty cycle needs to be accurately 50%
and the speed of operation 200 cycles per second or
more.re, the better the results until things get dangerous.

An inductive load is important. I can't remember why.
Probably the L is needed. check this useful doc:

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapeter5.pdf

Paul-R

[Inquorate]

Why the tesla switch may work better with a mechanical switch

YouTube - scope of sparking on mechanical switch

[citfta]

Spice Simulation

Hi Kent,


I see a couple of problems with your simulation. If I understand correctly you are planning to wind all the coils on the same toroid. How do you plan to control which output coils turn on then? The way I see it if you turn on one control coil that will turn on all the output coils. I think you are going to have to use two toroids. The other problem I see is how are you going to control your on time of the mosfets? The way a transformer works is that during the rise time of current on the primary you get a current flowing in the secondary. As soon as the current on the primary reaches its peak then current stops flowing in the secondary. This is only going to give you a few milliseconds of on time for the mosfets and therefore I don't think you can get the 50/50 duty cycle you need for the proper operation of a tesla switch. A circuit very similar to this was posted a few months ago and I don't think that person ever posted back with any results on whether they got it to work or not. Maybe they will read this and let us know how it turned out. Good luck, citfta

[kent_elyue]

Hi citfta,

You're right. There is only going to be a brief on-pulse during each cycle. I believe that is precisely how the circuit diagram in the Mueller report is designed to function. Look very carefully at the SG3524 oscillator section and the way it drives the transformers. Everytime the squarewave rises, or falls, you get a small voltage kick on all the secondaries. The voltage is either positive or negative depending on 1) whether the pulse in the primary is rising or falling, and 2) the phasing of the secondary winding. If the circuit switched no faster than 20cps, there is no way the secondary windings can hold a power-on state for 50mS.

In the Mueller report diagram, all the transformers are marked such that the primaries are all in the same phase relationship, while the secondaries have 3 phase dots going to the transistor bases. and the other 3 go to the emitters. So the secondaries are wired with 3 going positive while the other 3 go negative. These positive and negative pusles either drive the transistors on, or further into the cut-off region of operation. So while all the secondary coils are outputting pulses, only the transistors with positive going pulses will be forward biased and turn on. The others will stay off.

As for the 50-50 flip-flop, from all that I've read and researched, and from all my "playing" on the workbench, the *instant of change* is when the batteries, capacitors, and load "see" the disequilibrium that has been introduced into the circuit. The rest of the time the circuit is trying to relax and restore equilibrium - through the load and "into" the charging batteries - which it almost does just before the next change occurs to flip it all back again. This "relaxing" can continue even after the transistors have turned off. The "perfect 50%-50% flip-flop" mentioned by Bedini may not necessarily refer to a perfect 50%-50% on-time, but only to a perfectly even time difference between switched states. At least, that's the understanding and premise I've based my circuit design upon.

What I *AM* concerned with is not having the sets of 3 mosfets turned on simultaneously. If one is faster to turn off, or slower to turn on than the others, then it's possible that a complete circuit might never be momentarily completed, and nothing will happen. There are a few other concerns I have, too, such as batteries preferring to be only charged OR only discharged, but gradually becoming useless when constantly being switched quickly between modes, but it's too early to tell. I need to get it built so I can observe and experiment with it.

[Matthew Jones]

Why Transformer at all?

Are you using transformers to replicate the Mueller Diagram? I know it has them. Do you think they will have positive outcome?? I just wondering so please let me know.

You don't need this to make the effect work. Transistor and mosfets have come along way since that report was published. High powered can be turned on with as little as 3 volt. And can carry between 1 - 200+- volts at 100 amps. You get a small loss (or restriction of volts and amps) each time you run the power throught the mosfet but you just use a higher potential. Say 32 volt to 16 to acheive 13.5volt.

Or use 2 volt cells and add as many as you want. "Enersys Cyclon 2volt 2.5 amp hour". Stack them up. They only cost 8 dollers a peice.
Mosfets...Heres a good one http://ixdev.ixys.com/DataSheet/8779...5958adb7c9.pdf.
The only downfall is it has to be turned off. Maybe they are all that way. I don't know.
A couple big diodes and a big bridge.
Oh ya an Astable multivibrator, play with it a bit and you got an oscilator.
Some solid state relays so you can fire and route the correct power to the transistor and you can get it going. NO GROUND AT ALL!!!

Somebody asked is it overuntity. Depends on the baseline. How much time do you power the load convetional and how much time can you power the load with the switch? And whats your definition of overunity.
It not rocket science but there some tricks.
Motors don't run right on it. They only put out half power. Perm Mag motors have one pole doing just the opposite of what its supposed to do, therefore reducing torque. Alot. Thats easy to solve though. Brandt must have...
Transformers don't run along time extra on it, because of the BEMF made when you shut the transformer off. Why? The power output winding needs to be reversed so the BEMF come out the same polarity as the energy from the battery. So you can collect it or allow it to serialize inside the tranformer so your input is reduced. But that takes good timing.
Inverters fall under that. Except for transformerless and thats just another ball of wax.
Light bulbs with low resistance work well but also eats of power. The output of light in general should if you think about it. Light Photons are not a byproduct of the electron (Or whatever energy we have here) the carbon filament converts the energy into light through heat. Heat is a loss... period.
But you still get more light for your money.

Maybe you just wanna find out for yourself?

It works, and real well if set up correctly. And I am sure if you look hard enough you can find a good load for it, but you'll have to build that as well.

I'll post my schematic this week when I get home.

Still I wanna know why you are duplicating the old stuff when you could just skip most of it, so if anybody can answer that would be great.

Cheers
Matt

[redeagle]

People like to replicate what is documented first because it is there already for them to see and makes a good starting point. But when you have two different diagrams for the same device only one of which can function properly because the other has a short circuit in the schematic. You have to go to the drawing board and figure out what's what, where can i tap energy off of the system, and what losses can i eliminate.

Through experimentation and careful comparisons of the different diagrams i was able to find out that by rearranging the 6 switches and using a common positive you don't need the diodes at all. That eliminates several volts in losses.