Important Spirulina Info

[Doug]

Awww Pamela

Awww shucks Pamela,
I forgot to mention to Val that if the water isn't consumed... there's the hassle of sweating it out or even breathing it out whew, super yucko then!
Nature loves the path of least resistance!! Do your part and help out w/the H2O!
I'd rather have to visit the facilities often w/the extra water operation going on. Val, just don't plan that long trip in the car over the weekend, okay?

He, he, glad to be of service
Now to catch some preseason football....

Doug

[Adrienne]

hey

Hi. Since I have been on paths and spirulina, my periods have been irregular. does spirulina have an affect on the monthly cycle? Just not sure what the deal is. I have ben pretty regular in the past. Now, I start early sometimes or I finish quickly, but continue to spot.Just thought I'd ask. Thank You! heather

hi Heat Georgia
i used to spot in mid cycle for a few yrs.... and then i had gone onto the mood elevation modual for balancing chemicals and hormones... and it hasn't happened since...
that was over yr ago.
which i had also been on progesterone at one time too... which helped with that as well as bigger issues...
so it made sense that when my hormones were balanced... the spoting stopped....
wasn't pleasant bleeding for three weeks out of the month..
it would start when i ovulated and stop for one week after my period..
hope this helps
Adrienne

[Ayurved]

Poor Val!!! Ouch!!! Tummy cramps are no fun!!!

I don't know if this is a contributing factor but....
In Ayurveda, spirulina is considered a cooling food, with a bitter element to it, though it also has sweet taste. It is said to aggravate Vata (wind/air/space element in a person) and the seat vata of is the colon. Vata hates and is aggravated by cold. Part of the reason laxatives can cause 'gripping' (we don't recommend laxatives) is because they are 'cold' in nature.

Since you said you tend towards a sensitive tummy, perhaps either your body type includes vata, or you are experiencing vata imbalances,
maybe the spirulina is too cold for you, and some warming/digestive spice like cinnamon, cardomom, coriander would help your body accept it better.

Also, one of the best, gentle detoxifiers is triphala. It detoxes everything and deeply nourishes all 7 tissue levels. It strengthens and tonifies the colon and helps keep things moving to prevent any 'healing crisis'. Be sure to get some thats organic and uses wild instead of hybrid amalaki fruit. I recommend Chandika.com. If you are detoxifying with something else, like working on your liver (or taking lots of spirulina) it will help 'wash it out/not back up and cause problems.

If you have any other questions you can PM me or ask here and I can try to clarify. Good luck Val! Feel better!!!

In Graditude & Love,
Nancy

[VJoy]

Thank you all........

I called my doctor who increased my meds, so I am typing this in a fog......I feel okay enough to sit here for NOW.

I am sorry I sounded so in a panic.....When I get these attacks of pain, they are excrutiating, and once went to the emergency room and THEY didn't even know what to do with me..

I don't even know it was the E3AFA that did it, could be hormonal. A coincidence. My doctor said in some people even cough syrup can set off an attack of IBS.


Doug, I already do drink TONS of water....because IBS in me causes constipation, and I know I have toxins, sooooo I drink water.

Nancy, As for teh spices, I already know I can't tolerate them. I know my body very well, what sets off pain.

Adrienne, I am sorry, I am not sure what you mean......I am in peri-menapause with violent hormone swings, and that could very well be what is doing this, but again, I am sorry, I am not sure what you mean....My body cannot tolerate any form of hormone supplimentation, even bio-identical. If I like the module I have I was planing on getting the peri-menapause one in the future.

And Pam, thank you hon......

I guess I am scared to try this again. I am also leary of taking SO MUCH of either Spirulina, or E3AFA.......it doesn't sound healthy, 2000mg per module? That is actually not what it says on teh PATHS homepage, I believe I maybe mistaken, but I saw the increased dosage here on the forum...(sorry in a medicated fog)...especially because of all the iron? Being a woman.........you ladies know what I mean...

I am scared of it. I am going to contact my holistic doctor and ask her opinion, she would be openminded about PATHS, but might have adifferent opinion on my taking so much Spirulina or E3AFA.

I WANT TO USE PATHS!!! I watched my first module yesterday....


If I can't use these suppliments, is there another ...something...I can use for amino acids?
I am ALREADY on suppliments to supply neurotransmitter amino acids and support brain and adrenal function....but this probably isn't enough.

Thank you so much guys, and I am sorry I was in such a panic yesterday, I was in terrible pain, and felt like PATHS was a gonner for me, and I want to do it sooooo badly......I need to try this.....

Much appreciated, Thank you all for your kindness.......

[Adrienne]

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Adrienne, I am sorry, I am not sure what you mean......I am in peri-menapause with violent hormone swings, and that could very well be what is doing this, but again, I am sorry, I am not sure what you mean....My body cannot tolerate any form of hormone supplimentation, even bio-identical. If I like the module I have I was planing on getting the peri-menapause one in the future.

hello...
oh ...lol, i didn't realize that you were in peri-menopause, i am too young to know what that is like, yet.
not sure what bio-identical means, but the mood elevation is a PATHS modual, its not a hormone suplemention...


i was sharing my experience with spotting... and what i did that helped me. for me it was an inbalance. that is where the mood elevation helped.

sounds like your body is sensitive to many things, i think when we have much going on within/subconsiously this can be a cause for these things.. however i am not a doctor (which i am not to keen on getting into that morphic field )
and i can only speak for my self, as i also was told i had IBS... which in my experience was stress and anxiety related... hmmm, sorry, i am not sure what to suggest then...
I think and in my expereince that all that is going on with the body is rooted in the emotional, which will/can include the spiritual... when those are straitened out then the rest balances out... i speak from the many maladies i had suffered with and no longer are an issue...

I hope i am not sounding like a know-it-all, just what i have observed.. within my own system, and with others.
i have found it useful for me to not buy into the descriptons and definitions given to what is "wrong" with me. I did this for yrs without realizing what i was doing. however, it was in the inconsistant info i was getting from Dr's that i said whatever.. the body sends messages to self from self, which then leads us to know there is something that needs to be adressed... the key is going within. However, i think many of us, if not most look for a fix-it solution outside of ourselves... and the solution and all the answers are within no matter what.

once again i am not familiar with the peri-menopause experience or what it feels like and why.

yes it would be frustrating with finding something your system can handle right now so you can use PATHS.
it has helped me tremendously.
there are many knowledgeable people here.... hopefully there is a amino acid you can take.

i kinda went off in different directions so i wsn't necessarily adressing only what you wrote.
what popped up for me!
i hope you feel better soon..

Adrienne

[VJoy]

Thanks Adrienne!!

Peri-menopause is violent and various hormonal swings, and Irritable bowel is definatley affected by this, as well as stress, etc.

I know I have deep-rooted subconcious issues, that really, really need to be addressed becasue it is ruining my health and my life. That is why I want to try PATHS.

But this Spirulina thing.......that makes me uncomfortable, frankly. I hadn't realized the mega doses needed, even though I DID read about it, and I guess I didn't realize the dose was PER MODULE.

It may be fine for me, like I said, this COULD have been coincidence, I don't know. I have stopped the E3AFA for now, but am even afraid to try all that spirulina.

I would like any info on other forms of supplimentation that I could try. I NEED to try PATHS, as I know this can help my overall health in the long run. But in the short run, I can't take this pain., and I worry about the safety of such high doses, especially with all that iron.....

thank you so much!
And I didn't realize you were addressing some one else.
Val

[Adrienne]

hi

Thanks Adrienne!!

Peri-menopause is violent and various hormonal swings, and Irritable bowel is definatley affected by this, as well as stress, etc.

I know I have deep-rooted subconcious issues, that really, really need to be addressed becasue it is ruining my health and my life. That is why I want to try PATHS.

But this Spirulina thing.......that makes me uncomfortable, frankly. I hadn't realized the mega doses needed, even though I DID read about it, and I guess I didn't realize the dose was PER MODULE.

It may be fine for me, like I said, this COULD have been coincidence, I don't know. I have stopped the E3AFA for now, but am even afraid to try all that spirulina.

I would like any info on other forms of supplimentation that I could try. I NEED to try PATHS, as I know this can help my overall health in the long run. But in the short run, I can't take this pain., and I worry about the safety of such high doses, especially with all that iron.....

thank you so much!
And I didn't realize you were addressing some one else.
Val

hello Val
well.. i think it is safe to take so much, cuz we are in need of it... so there for our body is using what we are putting into it...
have you thought of going with just one modual for now.. that way anywhere from two to three grams of spirulina a day...
on the bottle it even says you can take five, and this is with out using Paths...
as for different supplements, well spirulina has worked well for me, so i haven't tried anything else.

it is like when you start exercising, your body needs more food, and it isn't gonna hurt you, it is fuel...
that is what the amino acids are for the brain fuel... we may bet by with what our diet gives us... but when exercising the brain/ rebuilding neurotransmittors... e need the fuel to fuel it... just like muscles... the food/protien so they can grow..

honestly i think i haven't been taking enough... and that has been causing alot of the symtms descibed...
i added another theater but didn't really up my doses of spirulina much.
i took extra last night and woke early and feel clear headed... it has been a while..

and one can start small and then biuld on that.. so your system gets used to it..
hopefully this is an option for you.
have you tried spirulina... sorry i missed if you said you did or not.
Adrienne

PS. i have taken spirulina with food for a yrs+ now, cuz medication i used to be on... ate my gut.. so my gut hurt when i took it on an empty stomach... but i have every so often and it seems to have healed... on the most part.... it doesn't hurt, but i do feel it..kinda wierd..
so i am gonna try it without food, so i am feeding my body 6 times a day in stead of three..

[VJoy]

Hi Adrienne!

I haven't tried the spirulina yet. I tried the E3AFA, and took 2000 mg yesterday.....I am afraid I went to fast?, or maybe it had nothing to do with my abdominal pain, I don't know. I am afraid to try again.

I am only on one module, to start, but it includes SLEEP, so that equals 2.

so.....according to the instructions, I should be taking at least 4000 mg!

It sounds scary......E3AFA has vitamin k, which can affect women's periods, and Spirulina has iron, and massive amounts of iron are dangerous.

LOL, you can tell I am a worry wort, which is why I do desperatly need PATHS.

Apparently lots of people who are on PATHS take spirulina with no problem, I am just concerned about the potential side effects on health with mega amounts of iron or vitiman k, for example......too much of ANYTHING can't be good???......



I wrote to my holistic Doc to ask her about this. I don't know when she will respond. I am still interested if anyone out there can suggest another source of the required amino acids that I could look into.....

Thank you for your patience with me Adrienne, I really appreciate it!

[Aaron]

whey protein tablets

Hi Val,

Most health food stores have something like "predigested whey protein" tablets. Popular with weight lifters and other athletes. Basically a pure protein supplement. Those should work fine. Make sure to notice the size of the tablets because they tend to be horse pills, but not always.

[Ingram]

Hi Val,
I've been taking spirulina since I started PATHS a couple of months ago and found that when I upped the dosage from 4000mg I began having stomach/bowel irritation. I took as suspect the quality of the spirulina so I acquired some online from Beyond a Century and reduced my intake back to 4000mg (two caps at a time 4 times a day). I do find however that when I ingest 4 caps (2000 mg) at a time that the irritation returns. So I concluded that it was the amount of the dose that I was sensitive to.

Overall, I try to take it with food and drink plenty of water (as you already are).

I cannot speak to the E3AFA but perhaps you can divide the dose into smaller amounts and see if that helps?

[Doug]

What about.....

Val,
Sure, PATHS recommends the 2,000mgs. Unfortunately, as I mentioned before, AFA is super powerful and will detox more seriously. (the more I read your posts stating you took 2,000mgs, It hit me, you started out with too much of a super food and with having some conditions as well -- sorry about that ) When I took an earlier version of Blue Green Algae (or AFA) years ago, I started with just one 500mg pill a day!!! This stuff is even better than what I took, meaning more "detoxability" (new word) If people are sensitive they even mentioned starting with a half of one. I think you're safe with the E3AFA, you just need to start out super gradually. With all the toxins some people have, if they ingested them all at once, they'd probably croak, well, you know what I mean. With the quantity you took on the first day, that would be like someone starting with weightlifting - to muscle failure, doing 4 or 5 sets of each muscle group "awww this feels great!" and the next day or the following you can't even move. <- that used to be an everyday workout regime for me, but not when I started out!!
You just put your body through the everyday AFA 2,000mg workout.

One of the keys with weight loss, detoxing, exercising or general life improving, sometimes we forget it was a gradual process that led us that condition we want to reverse or change. Depending on us, the severity, the modus of operandi, etc., we can tailor the shift for what we desire. If you need a gradual detoxing, it will take longer, but who cares?? Does this make sense???
AND, you'll be able to function better, heck your brain will enjoy it more too!!
You'll be fine with the AFA. It was pretty much the first life/food/plant-animal to live in the water, "back in the day" eons ago it's pretty basic yet loaded with the perfect amino acid profile we actually need -- that's pretty amazing to me.
Take just a half a pill of AFA when you're feeling better.

I wish you the best,
Doug

[VJoy]

THANK YOU, Aaron, Ingram and Doug,......

Aaron, Edited...thanks Aaron, but I am allergic to dairy, so I cannot take whey protien. Sigh..... LOL)

Thanks Ingram, I will be careful..

Doug, Okay, I probably went through a big detox. That might explain the extra super bad pain last night........

Well, if E3AFA is more powerful than spirulina,, and I if do it GRADUALLY to build on, do I need as much in the end? I am on one module now + sleep. If I wind up with a theater of 4, do I really need all 8-9000 mg on the E3AFA??
( really don't want to take any near bedtime, I am super sensitive to things that keep me awake, so none after mid-morning for me)

Maybe I won't need as much.....???

Thank you guys, you are great. So sorry for all the questions, and thanks for your patience!!

[Ayurved]

Hi Val!
I don't know what form of AFA you're taking, but I've heard some people are sensitive to gel caps.

I'm sure you've tried many things, but I have had good luck with Australian Bush flower essences, when my physical problems also have an emotional componant or trigger. Its my fav of all the FE, and possibly won't be ingesting enough (few drops) to impact your gut. Crowea, Bottlebrush, Sunshine Wattle, and others are recommended for IBS.

I don't think I'm taking enough spirulina either! I have to find a way to tolerate the taste in a smoothie or drink. I'm on 8 modules, so that would be 16 grams....32 tablets!!! My little bottles of 90 won't last but a few days!!!
I bought some nice bulk powder, but the thought of that many gel caps makes me queasy!
Anyone know offhand what the measurment for a gram of powder as in teaspoons/tablespoons??

Hang in there Val!!! I'm sorry your ibs is so intense right now! Peri-menopause can complicate everything!!!
We're rooting for you to find a way!!!


In Graditude & Love,
Nancy

[VJoy]

Thanks so much Nancy! Actually, I just went and got Spirulina tablets. Maybe my system will tolerate that more.......I don't know, I will have to experiment.

Hugs!!

[Doug]

Excellent, Val

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Thanks Ingram, I will be careful..

Doug, Okay, I probably went through a big detox. That might explain the extra super bad pain last night........

Well, if E3AFA is more powerful than spirulina,, and I if do it GRADUALLY to build on, do I need as much in the end? I am on one module now + sleep. If I wind up with a theater of 4, do I really need all 8-9000 mg on the E3AFA??
( really don't want to take any near bedtime, I am super sensitive to things that keep me awake, so none after mid-morning for me)

Maybe I won't need as much.....???

Here's the good part, Val
Play it by ear, be your own judge -- As you are working your way up in quantity and feeling tired with detoxing (give your body rest for that too, like working out) and your brain building the neurotransmitter network to handle the PATHS info ---- You'll "ta da" start feeling more energetic and a better state of mind!!! Whatever the dosage is at the time is perfect Of course, when adding modules, start increasing the E3AFA to handle it -- as needed, of course!

What Ingram said about splitting your intake is excellent, this is food remember (we don't eat one meal a day of 2800 cal. do we???) Yeah, don't take it at night, that's fine. You could take it first thing in the morning w/breakfast and maybe before lunch if you want to. What's great about the AFA, you won't have all the extra energy until your body is "good and clean enough" to handle it! Isn't that cool??? You won't be a jittery detoxer! It isn't a stimulating caffeinated energy either, just a healthier more thorough version -- you could experiment with the mid-afternoon dose on a Friday or on the weekend if you want. That's up to you, of course.

Excellent!
Good luck to you,
Doug