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Telluric Transmission NOT "Radient" Sparks/Streamers
Techzombie,
While your questions weren't directed at me I have a few things I would like to attempt to clarify, as you seem to think a Tesla transformer does something that I don't believe it does.
The sparks engendered by an incorrectly built Tesla transformer do constitute a loss as you have mentioned, also a hazard to human and nearby electronic equipments health and safety. Sparks look cool and are fun to play around with as a demonstration but are completely beside the point of the original intent of the device as envisioned by Tesla. Which was the TRANSMISSION of electrical energy using the EARTH, for his vision of "wireless" power transmission. This is NOT a free-energy apparatus, HOWEVER, there may not be an equivalency of energy taken from the transmitter as is transmitted to MULTIPLE receivers - its possible to have more energy received by adding up the power seen at EACH individual receiver.
The sparks are the observable result of dielectric saturation of the surrounding air. This is due to the extremely high EMF observed at the 1/4th wave nodal point in the one wire transmission line, the secondary composes part of the transmission line and can be ran as 1/8th secondary 1/8 extra OR 1/4th secondary 1/4th extra - the latter produces the greatest EMF.
To obviate the sparks you place an "end-terminal" on the end of the wire to INCREASE the surface area, AT THAT POINT, which reduces the dielectric stress by the ratio e = ψ / C or volts = coulombs / farad. Here, coulombs represents the electrostatic field lines observed at the end of the transmission line, the capacitance in farads reduces the electrostatic field density D by the distribution of flux lines around its surface, C = εA / d. To summarize, the added capacitance IS UNWANTED BUT NECESSARY, needed to eliminate the sparking and its use requires extra effort in tuning the extra coil for the correct resonant frequency. Look over Dr. Greens posts, he has shown the terminal capacitance, for receiving applications, to be hard to deal with.
I feel you are looking at this device with the wrong mind-set, quit thinking about sparks and "radiant" energy - ITS A TRANSMITTER that uses TELLURIC RADIO PROPAGATION (radio through the ground NOT the air) at frequencies that are said to not be able to work with ground radio techniques. The general idea of this device is that IT IS NOT transmitting via HERTZIAN waves, which engenders "radiation". Instead it transmits using Tesla-type waves or longitudinal propagation as opposed to the transverse-hertzian waves.
The basic outline of operation could be said to be much like a NEAR-FIELD transmission (radio is far-field) seen in a normal 60 cycles TRANSFORMER but DONE AT LONG DISTANCES. This idea stems from the fact that the device, if operating with 100% longitudinal transmission, does NOT RADIATE ENERGY - there is NO radiation. While a normal hertizan type transmitter HAS TO RADIATE AT ALL TIMES - whether in use, sending information, or not.
So the idea isn't to "capture" the sparks or "radiant energy" - which is absurd when looking at the intended use as GIVEN by Tesla.
Further NO Tesla transformer will ever be "self-powering", ITS A TRANSMITTER/receiver, so how can it be a source supply and a transmitter/receiver at the same time? You can however, according to Mr. Dollard's work, have a gain in energy seen along the transmission line - ambient energy converged into the apparatus. BUT this isn't going to keep it working once you stop the condition that made it work in the first place. ANY device that can take in outside energy will still need the thing that provoked it into doing that, otherwise it won't "power itself" and "looping" something is not as easy as you would first think, feedback control is a complex problem.
Key points to remember about a Tesla transformer:
1) Embodies faster than light propagation of information or power (from transmitter to receiver)
2) Emits NO, to little, RADIATION, when operating with near 100% longitudinal transmission
3) The earth is the transmission medium not air (one-wire through-the-earth type connection)
4) Sparking isn't "radiant" energy and engenders a loss - but the sparks engendered are not "normal" (as seen in the photos Tom Brown uploaded)
5) The device doesn't power itself
6) Ambient energy *can be converged into the apparatus under certain instances - but will not power itself
7) Energy equivalency seen at *multiple loads and source supply appears to be broken
If I am wrong on any points feel free to call me out, I just want people to THINK CLEARLY as to what the device actually does - and not think up wild fantasies as to what its "supposed to do".
When actually engineering something, and then seeing the end results for yourself, you will realize how far off and backwards you were thinking most times - this is something that I have learned from many experiments. Try to keep an open mind with new ideas and theories but at the same time realize you actually have to build it, find the parts, assemble, the whole works. Not withstanding the actual comprehension of it all.
I don't mean to discourage anyone but realize that a deep understanding of radio engineering and EM fields will be invaluable when working on something of this nature. Thinking about sparks and radiant energy will engender the "fog of war" - preventing anything useful from getting done.
Side note; Please read all of Eric's posts concerning the Tesla transformer a second time (especially this one re-posted by Dr. Green). Also, read through Dr. Greens posts as he has gracefully put up a lot of experimental results, which you can use to help when building your own rig.
Good luck,
Garrett M
Techzombie,
While your questions weren't directed at me I have a few things I would like to attempt to clarify, as you seem to think a Tesla transformer does something that I don't believe it does.
The sparks engendered by an incorrectly built Tesla transformer do constitute a loss as you have mentioned, also a hazard to human and nearby electronic equipments health and safety. Sparks look cool and are fun to play around with as a demonstration but are completely beside the point of the original intent of the device as envisioned by Tesla. Which was the TRANSMISSION of electrical energy using the EARTH, for his vision of "wireless" power transmission. This is NOT a free-energy apparatus, HOWEVER, there may not be an equivalency of energy taken from the transmitter as is transmitted to MULTIPLE receivers - its possible to have more energy received by adding up the power seen at EACH individual receiver.
The sparks are the observable result of dielectric saturation of the surrounding air. This is due to the extremely high EMF observed at the 1/4th wave nodal point in the one wire transmission line, the secondary composes part of the transmission line and can be ran as 1/8th secondary 1/8 extra OR 1/4th secondary 1/4th extra - the latter produces the greatest EMF.
To obviate the sparks you place an "end-terminal" on the end of the wire to INCREASE the surface area, AT THAT POINT, which reduces the dielectric stress by the ratio e = ψ / C or volts = coulombs / farad. Here, coulombs represents the electrostatic field lines observed at the end of the transmission line, the capacitance in farads reduces the electrostatic field density D by the distribution of flux lines around its surface, C = εA / d. To summarize, the added capacitance IS UNWANTED BUT NECESSARY, needed to eliminate the sparking and its use requires extra effort in tuning the extra coil for the correct resonant frequency. Look over Dr. Greens posts, he has shown the terminal capacitance, for receiving applications, to be hard to deal with.
I feel you are looking at this device with the wrong mind-set, quit thinking about sparks and "radiant" energy - ITS A TRANSMITTER that uses TELLURIC RADIO PROPAGATION (radio through the ground NOT the air) at frequencies that are said to not be able to work with ground radio techniques. The general idea of this device is that IT IS NOT transmitting via HERTZIAN waves, which engenders "radiation". Instead it transmits using Tesla-type waves or longitudinal propagation as opposed to the transverse-hertzian waves.
The basic outline of operation could be said to be much like a NEAR-FIELD transmission (radio is far-field) seen in a normal 60 cycles TRANSFORMER but DONE AT LONG DISTANCES. This idea stems from the fact that the device, if operating with 100% longitudinal transmission, does NOT RADIATE ENERGY - there is NO radiation. While a normal hertizan type transmitter HAS TO RADIATE AT ALL TIMES - whether in use, sending information, or not.
So the idea isn't to "capture" the sparks or "radiant energy" - which is absurd when looking at the intended use as GIVEN by Tesla.
Further NO Tesla transformer will ever be "self-powering", ITS A TRANSMITTER/receiver, so how can it be a source supply and a transmitter/receiver at the same time? You can however, according to Mr. Dollard's work, have a gain in energy seen along the transmission line - ambient energy converged into the apparatus. BUT this isn't going to keep it working once you stop the condition that made it work in the first place. ANY device that can take in outside energy will still need the thing that provoked it into doing that, otherwise it won't "power itself" and "looping" something is not as easy as you would first think, feedback control is a complex problem.
Key points to remember about a Tesla transformer:
1) Embodies faster than light propagation of information or power (from transmitter to receiver)
2) Emits NO, to little, RADIATION, when operating with near 100% longitudinal transmission
3) The earth is the transmission medium not air (one-wire through-the-earth type connection)
4) Sparking isn't "radiant" energy and engenders a loss - but the sparks engendered are not "normal" (as seen in the photos Tom Brown uploaded)
5) The device doesn't power itself
6) Ambient energy *can be converged into the apparatus under certain instances - but will not power itself
7) Energy equivalency seen at *multiple loads and source supply appears to be broken
If I am wrong on any points feel free to call me out, I just want people to THINK CLEARLY as to what the device actually does - and not think up wild fantasies as to what its "supposed to do".
When actually engineering something, and then seeing the end results for yourself, you will realize how far off and backwards you were thinking most times - this is something that I have learned from many experiments. Try to keep an open mind with new ideas and theories but at the same time realize you actually have to build it, find the parts, assemble, the whole works. Not withstanding the actual comprehension of it all.
I don't mean to discourage anyone but realize that a deep understanding of radio engineering and EM fields will be invaluable when working on something of this nature. Thinking about sparks and radiant energy will engender the "fog of war" - preventing anything useful from getting done.
Side note; Please read all of Eric's posts concerning the Tesla transformer a second time (especially this one re-posted by Dr. Green). Also, read through Dr. Greens posts as he has gracefully put up a lot of experimental results, which you can use to help when building your own rig.
Good luck,
Garrett M
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