Mechanical Magnetic Torque Amplifier

[Allen Burgess]

Mu.

The standard unit of inductance is the henry. The equation for calculating the number of henries in an inductor is:

H = (4 * Pi * #Turns * #Turns * coil Area * mu) / (coil Length * 10,000,000)

The area and length of the coil are in meters. The term mu is the permeability of the core. Air has a permeability of 1, while steel might have a permeability of 2,000.

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Lenz effect.

The magnetic fields are interpenetrating along the "A" vector at 180 degrees in the oscillator, neutralizing "Lenz Drag", like the zero force motor does by positioning the output coil at 90 degrees.

This helps explain why we witness an even exchange. Using a magnetic core with a spinning rotor magnet is self defeating.

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10 Henry Choke

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10 Henry Electromagnet

I'm converting this choke into an extremely powerful electromagnet, hacksawing the "I" off the "E" stator by hand. The inductance of the 500 Newton coil is .052 Henries. With a MU of 7000, and inductance of 1.92 Henries after separation, the magnetic attraction strength from the silicon steel lamination core coil should be around 3600 pounds! That means it will be generating 36 times the magnetic field strength of the cheap electromagnet for the same power input.

The power of MU!

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10 Henry Electromagnet video.

The round electromagnet on the right with a cobalt core and MU of 250, generates around 100 pounds of attraction force. The 10 Henry "E" core of silicon steel laminations on the left, with a core MU of 7000, generates close to 1/2 ton of attraction force for the same input!

Here's the finished electromagnet in action:
https://youtu.be/aDotzd6SheI

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Question.

Assuming we generate more attraction force with the higher permeability electromagnet then the electromagnet with lower core Mu, with the same input power.

Here's the question: Will the higher permeability core coil generate more output then the coil with less permeability from a rotor magnet of equal strength and force? For example; Let's say we simply roll a powerful neo magnet sphere into each coil core powered by magnetic attraction alone and measure the output from the collision. Will the coil of higher core permeability generate power in the same proportion it generates a magnetic field from input to the one of lower value? In other words, would the 10 Henry coil generate 13 times the electrical power as the round EM coil of less inductance from the motion of a permanent magnet of equal strength and force of motion?

The answer is a categorical "yes", based on the test results I performed and recorded throughout the course of this thread.

The strength of the EM's can easily be tested by attaching a permanent magnet of known gauss, and seeing if the coil can drop it with a neutralization pulse.

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Final inductance measurements.

I replaced the battery in my "VICI" Inductance meter, and remeasured the inductance of the two electromagnet coils.

The 10 Henry choke, which measured 10 Henries when I first got it, now measures 1.91 Henries with the core split.

The 500 newton round coil, which has been used mightily by me, now measures .052 Henries. It generated a little over 100 pounds of attraction strength new, but has grown weaker.

Nevertheless, the silicon steel laminated "E" core EM coil currently has a whopping 36.7 times the inductance as the round cobalt core EM.

That means the round EM coil would need 36 times the power to do the same work as the laminated one. That would surely make it smoke!

The corollary, of course, is that the silicon steel core coil would generate over 36 times the power from the same magnet rotor as the round EM.

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Output comparison tests.

I want to thank everyone who's been keeping up with my comments and watching my videos. Especially member Gotoluc, who clued me in to the value of the high inductance choke off his "Self running coil" thread. My latest test proves he's been right the entire time.

I connected the coil electrodes from each EM to the DMM set on both the A.C. and D.C. volts scale and stabbed at them with the flat side of a ceramic block magnet, and got a huge difference in voltage output, in proportion to the difference in inductance. The consequences are awesome!

The 10 Henry choke is generating over 10 times the output! The high perm EM can oscillate a much larger piston magnet for the same input as the round EM, so just ball parking for now, the high perm EM attraction oscillator with the SPDT switch should be at least 100 times over unity. This is really dynamite!

There's really not any further to go with the project, it's perfected.

Captain Midnight Rollover from the "Black Friday Project".

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Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.

I'm running a thread in parallel on the Overunity site that I carried these comments over from to carry forward with.

Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
« Reply #257 on: June 21, 2018, 05:27:01 PM »
Quote from: truesearch on June 21, 2018, 04:14:04 PM
@synchro1


Can you post a diagram image outlining what you are doing ? I'm not really following what you have described . .


truesearch

@truesearch,

Let me ask you a question first; You understand how wrapping an iron nail will increase the magnetic attraction strength of a coil of wire independently of input, right? The same nail will increase the electrical output of the coil, in the same proportion, from the motion of a permanent magnet. I need to know if you follow what I just stated before I can help you with a diagram.

The coil wrapped nail has an axial polarity. Now imagine we position a permanent magnet with it's magnetic polarity in opposition to the electromagnetic pole, that's attracted to the ferrite in the nail. So, the magnet's stuck on the nail head, until the coil that's wrapped around it is energized. That magnetic pulse then repels the permanent magnet, right? When the power pulse stops the magnetic attraction of the permanent magnet to the nail generates a current in the coil as it's attracted back.

It would return the power to source if we didn't wire a separate pathway to storage through the SPDT switch.

Naturally, this is an oversimplification and involves the B-H curve in actual practice.

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Woopyjump video

Quote from: truesearch on June 21, 2018, 08:01:52 PM
@synchro1


That does make sense the way you've described. Thanks!

A question: wouldn't it take more electrical "energy" to power the electro-magnetic coil that has a permanent magnet with it's magnetic polarity in opposition to the electromagnetic pole? I'm just supposing that whatever "gain" is captured would be in comparison to the additional energy input. . . :-\


truesearch

@truesearch,

That's really a very good question. Let me ask you this: Does a flashlight draw more power when it shines it's light against a wall then when it shines into free space?

This video by Woopyjump shows that there's no difference in input with or without the magnet pendulum in front of the pulse coil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLiUkno3tSY&t=7s

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Mu.

The COP of the attraction oscillator I described to truesearch would be a function of the relative permeability (Mu) of the coil core.

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10 H oscillator

You'll notice two SPDT spring pressure switches, one one each end of the ceramic piston:

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Ferrite powder.

I filled this pale green plastic Tupperware tub with dark gray beach sand from in front of my apartment, and placed two ceramic block magnets under the lid to ballast my electromagnet. When I opened it I noticed the magnets were covered with black magnetic ferrite powder which washes down from the nearby rivers and piles up on the beach. The pure ferrite powder material I scrapped off the magnets is in a pile on the piece of white paper in the photo. This material has a very high relative permeability or Mu value. It's very simple to cold mold it into a solid core simply be mixing it with a linear polyurethane composite epoxy. This is why special interest groups will never be able to monopolize the high perm core market:

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Laminated silicon steel "I" stator in washtub pump coil

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"I" core.

The "E" core will not reverse magnetic polarity when I reverse the current polarity. It has potential but it's unsuitable for an attraction neutralization oscillator. The "I' core tub coil does the job splendidly. My objective is to prove that the COP of the oscillator is in direct proportion to the core perm, and the "I" core and tub coil have tested out to be ideal. The "I" core coil projects a powerful "A" vector, unlike the "E" core. This is the platform I plan to continue forward with. I'll take inductance measurements when I return to testing soon.