Alexkor Air Core Coil Radiant Charger

[SkyWatcher]

Hi nick, thanks for the reply.
Thing is, I am briefly taking a side road with testing these primary alkaline cells.
I have been recharging lead acid and nimh as well, though I am waiting to see how many charges I can get out of these alkalines and how the capacity either improves or not.
peace love light
tyson

[Nick_Z]

SW:
We know from previous tests that regular AA batteries will lose their ability to take a charge with further charging cycles, so why not use a couple of new rechargeable batteries to avoid that problem. They do not cost very much, and will give you more accurate results.
The small 4v, 0.5ah lead acid batteries would be ideal, again they are not expensive to buy. I use 4 of them in parallel with the solar cells from outdoor lights, that we had looked into previously. I used them on my Exciter to make it into a solar Exciter circuit. But, I have been disappointed with the solar cell charging output from these outdoor lights, though.
You may also want to try the regular heavy duty primary batteries (D cells), as they are not based on an alkaline source but on carbon instead. Carbon can be used and charged over and over again, although it will also contaminate in time from the internal hydrogen gas production.
The small lead acid batteries would probably be the best way to go on these HV charging tests.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, just finished the 4th charge and discharge cycle, with the 2 AA alkalines in series, using the same 10 ohm resistor load.
The capacity is increasing and the average voltage is higher than last cycle.
These tests would probably have been better, if i had brand new alkalines, still good for results though.
This seems encouraging so far to me, what you folks think.
I will continue to make charge cycles until i see the results either plateauing or declining, hopefully they keep going up in capacity.
peace love light
tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi jdove, thanks for sharing.
That sounds like an idea, a good possibility to control frequency.
Is your 12 volt AA pack, rechargeable kind or primary non-rechargeables.
Also, I'm curious as to what kind of mah or capacity(duration) you get from those, I have been discharging to .9 volts per cell for my capacity tests and i get so far, just under 50% capacity, thanks.
peace love light
tyson

[j dove]

Radiant Energy Battery Charger / Aa Cells

Hi folks, Hi jdove, thanks for the reply.
Ok, that is good to know, i will make more recharge tests and see what happens with these alkalines, for better or worse.
Hi ewizard, yes, that is what i meant, then again, this circuit still could work and charge batteries and power an A.C. unit, it would just take awhile and probably not be very practical unless scaled up in power.
Then again, maybe some other form of more efficient air conditioning might be used, like evaporative cooling, where only a blower fan is needed.
I have a thought to build a larger one of these single layer bifilar air core coils, like the size of some of the large slayer towers, bifilar of course.
Though the frequency will probably lower a bit, would be interesting to see the effects of such a large tower coil.
peace love light
tyson

Hi SKY WATCHER

If you want to maintain frequency to your charge battery with a larger coil design you could make a pwm discharge control circuit like i use on my device, that way the coil can still resonate at its operating frequency and your can tune to the frequency that the battery needs for best charge cycle.
It' s just a thought ; see how quick it gets complex. Anyway please keep me posted with your progress, oh buy the way i got 12 vdc worth of AA recharged today it took 17 hrs but they are at above full charge ; the low end is 1.58 vdc to the high end of 1.73 vdc; all have full power after overnite rest on the voltage check , i use them in standard flashlight bulbs and they are very bright .
Frequency is the key to the recharge with this type of energy.

cheers

JEFF

[SkyWatcher]

Hi nickz, thanks for the reply, good information and yes I agree about the regular charging aspect of these cells and that they are built that way to make people go out and buy more, quicker.
This alexkor setup is not exactly an exciter, though similar I imagine.
Though the frequency of pulses must be over, at the very least 200khz and very short pulse width, though I have no scope to confirm that.
The frequency helps i am sure, though i feel it is the very short pulse width due to this high frequency, that is really doing the trick with these cells.
I am making another (3rd) recharge cycle with these 2 AA alkalines.
The thing is, a guess for now, that if this circuit causes no heat in the cell when charging, then I theorize that the cells will last many more charge cycles than most have seen with these type cells.
Hi holtage, yes to all questions.
peace love light
tyson

[Nick_Z]

SW:
After years of charging all kinds of AA batteries of different types, I find that All non-rechargeables can be made to leak by simply charging them in a normal way using regular conventional AA chargers. They are made that way on purpose, so that they can't be safely charged. However, charging a D size "heavy duty" type battery (without overcharging them), or by using pulses, can still provide quite a bit of useable power, before having to throw them in the trash. D size cells have 10.000 mA, and so even if only half of that amount comes back with a regular charger, a solar charge, or pulse charge, that is still a lot of useable power, at least for a few charging cycles. 4 D size batteries contain 40.000 mA. and take the same effort charge as 4 AAs. But, for testing purposes, the smaller batteries can be used.
Wireless phone batteries (3.6v) work great, and won't leak, explode, or cause any problems. Lead acid batteries also work fine, but are delicate to constant charging and discharge cycles.
I have not tried to charge batteries of any kind with the Exciter set up, so I'll give that a try, just to see what happens. I do think that there is more than meets the eye, when using radiant pulses.
Good luck with your tests, and please keep us informed.

[holtage]

battery or the circuit?

ok. but i still have questions: you mean to use the circuit to power an air conditioner OR to use the circuit to charge batteries and then use the batteries to power an air conditioner. which one are you to be meant?

Also, you use the circuit to charge AA alkaline batteries, can AA alkaline batteries replace sealed lead-acid batteries to power a load like anair conditioner or not?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi nick, thanks for the reply.
I would say based so far on my recent tests and past tests of radiantly charging primary cells, in this case alkaline AA's, that plenty of current is there for the given cell type, though the capacity seems to be cut in half.
Though that is what my testing is for, to see if the capacity will get better or worse after multiple radiant recharge cycles.
I was pulling an average 250 milliamps or .5 watts from the 2 AA's in series, which is not terrible and is still of use for many devices.
I have never had a non-rechargeable cell leak or burst while charging radiantly, it seems though that as jdove mentioned, that aluminum casings may cause them to leak, as that happened to me for some reason as well in an aluminum casing led flashlight and it could be that the radiant charge i was giving the cells at the time, contained to much hot current, which could have caused the leakage pressure.
I for some reason, have a feeling that experimenting with these alkaline cells, may yield further insight into radiant charging.
peace love light
tyson
edit: here is a website link, showing tests with the rayovac AA alkalines im testing.
Prism Glow - Rayovac AA Batteries Energy Test

[Nick_Z]

SkyWatcher and All:
Interesting to see that you are charging batteries with High voltage.
I have been working with the Exciter circuits for a while now, and would be interested to see if they can further charge another battery, that will allow the two batteries to be swapped around. Similar to what we were doing with the Jtc.
My Exciter coils (various) may work for what you are trying to do. However, I think that trying to charge normal non-rechargeable batteries is not the best way to go. As they are not made for it, and can leak, and even blow up.
These higher voltage spikes have very little current to them, normally, and is the reason why the batteries that are being charged don't get hot. I have found that these batteries will not charge to the same degree, as they have voltage, but little current levels. Possibly conditioning them as you mention, can improve their performance.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi jdove, thanks for the reply.
Ok, that is good to know, i will make more recharge tests and see what happens with these alkalines, for better or worse.
Hi ewizard, yes, that is what i meant, then again, this circuit still could work and charge batteries and power an A.C. unit, it would just take awhile and probably not be very practical unless scaled up in power.
Then again, maybe some other form of more efficient air conditioning might be used, like evaporative cooling, where only a blower fan is needed.
I have a thought to build a larger one of these single layer bifilar air core coils, like the size of some of the large slayer towers, bifilar of course.
Though the frequency will probably lower a bit, would be interesting to see the effects of such a large tower coil.
peace love light
tyson

[ewizard]

Hi, skywatcher! You said "Though, if you mean, can this charge batteries, to then power an air conditioner, I don't see why not, use your imagination."

But my english is not very good, what does the phrase"I don't see why not" mean? I can't get what you say. Please use simpler english to said the meaning of "I don't see why not".

I'll just add a bit to possibly clarify things. This is just my opinion and Skywatcher has more experience with this but I think he is saying that it is possible to power an air conditioner BUT since air conditioners use a LOT of power it would likely take a lot of scaling up (meaning probably a lot higher expense to build) to get enough power to run an air conditioner. That again is just my guess. So what I'm saying is I don't think you can expect to run a big air conditioner using the same components shown here. It would take a lot more or higher power components and bigger coils probably to put out that much power. If I'm wrong I'm sure Skywatcher will let you know.

[j dove]

radiant energy charger

Hi jdove, thanks for the nice reply and good information and pics.
Yes, I can affirm, when the primary non-rechargeable alkaline C size cells leaked in the past, they were used in an aluminum casing flashlight.
Hmm, so your saying these may need more recharge cycles for conditioning purposes, I will make more recharge cycles then, since they do seem to be attaining a higher and higher standing voltage with each cycle.
I also notice, that if I give the AA cells a rest while charging, then continue later, they seem to like that also.
It seems the alkalines don't like to be pushed, they need to be charged gently and slowly in their own time.
What kind of watt/hour durations have you seen from your alkaline tests compared to the original specifications, thanks again.
Thanks for the interest.
peace love light
tyson

Hi skywatcher

I haven't really done any watt hr durations tests just notice that they seem to last longer and obtain a higher charge each time i recharge them. I got into the battery recharger work as an of shoot of my ed leedsklin experiments because a very small pmh unit i built shocked my quiet a bit and i thought that energy must be of some use , but i came to understand that it really is the same thing as a tesla coil is doing . So now my tesla designs are really only an amped up version of the battery charger devices, i am working on a reverse version of the tesla coil battery charger device hope to finish it soon but each device gets more complex and in depth in design. The device i gave u pics of took me two months to build , this new one is at seven and counting. Well sorry to ramble on , nice to talk to you .

cheers

jeff

[SkyWatcher]

Hi holtage,to answer your question.
I am stating my opinion, that this radiant charger could charge batteries and then power an air conditioner.
What do you intend to do with this circuit.
Charge batteries or power a device like an air conditioner, directly?
Myself, I am just charging batteries at the moment, to see how these air core coils perform.
I hope that english is simple enough, as i do not know how to make it more simple.
peace love light
tyson

[holtage]

I don't see why not

Hi, skywatcher! You said "Though, if you mean, can this charge batteries, to then power an air conditioner, I don't see why not, use your imagination."

But my english is not very good, what does the phrase"I don't see why not" mean? I can't get what you say. Please use simpler english to said the meaning of "I don't see why not".