Looks like H20power was correct?

[thedude]

The secound generation reactor is still ongoing and is not to just run a converted car, it is a big leap in molecular manipulation which can be used for many many things apart from making synthetic fuel.

Hi Michael. Would i be correct in assuming your processing hydrogen to hydride with an accelerator? More or less storing hydrogen safely for release through heat? I know little about the process yet but i've heard it can be simplified nicely. Yet expensive so far from what i was looking at. I likely have most of the equipment to begin working this process. I definitely have a on demand source of hydrogen to convert with. Might have been someone's marketing scam i saw too. But i do believe that technology is sound. At least from what Bob Lazar has show us, kind of..., not really. At least not everything.

[Karl]

He is gone because of his THREATS and INSULTS to people that believe
differently than him - NOT because of his opinions about Meyer - so
GET OVER IT.

You're calling me a disinformation agent? I'm the one who banned him.

Did I call you a disinformation agent? I also called out ney sayers, interesting that you got offended over disinformation agent.

[sucahyo]

Then tell us exactly how, maybe with videos of your progress so far, like H2Opower has,

h2opower has his own theory of slowing down hho burn and he never show any video yet.

I suggest people to try to slow down hho burn because some old HHO experimenter mention how difficult it is adjusting an engine for HHO burn rate. If you can make HHO burn as fast as gasoline, it would be a lot less work.

Funny that you call me a disinformant agent. Meyer said it for himself, in Denver, thanks for Alex Petty scripts:
Stan Meyer Water as Fuel Lecture in Denver on May 1997 | Energy Research

So it became very obvious that if I now mix the hydrogen and the oxygen gas with non-combustible gases that do not support the burning process, then I can adjust the burn rate of the hydrogen gas to co-equal that of the fossil fuels.

That was the number one major invention that allowed us now to go ahead and retrofit to any internal combustion engine or any device that’s absolutely been running on fossil fuel. We now have a very economical way of doing this using ordinary water.

All we need to do is take ambient air, mix it, expose it to a flame, to create the non-combustible gases, mix it with the hydrogen, and we can adjust the hydrogen burn rate equal to or less than that of natural gas and transport to any gas grid system anywhere in the economy – without even changing a valve.

That is information. Everyone should now this already but choose to ignore. It is a fact that he once call it number one invention. Or do you think he alter his buggy timing? Good luck.


Thanks for the link ImJacksAmygdala. I believe that simple brute force ionizer may be much much better than gas processor working on resonance. I don't think collector plate is needed.

I once tried my own corona ionizer and observe a much smoother idle on carburetor Toyota.

My argumentation to h2opower is, resonance would require exact frequency on each atmospheric condition. And obtaining constant atmospheric condition is impossible on a real life application.

I am asking if his version of gas processor design can significantly change car idle smoothness with under 12 watt of power. I doubt that but we will see what can he show. He promise to post result within a month, next month, which I doubt he can.

[chasson321]

International Independent Test-Evaluation Report

Here is a 8XA circuit modified by H2opower (I believe) that no longer needs the adapted alternator as a power source, it will now run straight off a battery
This is the one I guess in the youtube clip
[ATTACH]8531[/ATTACH]

This circuit is right out of the International Independent Test- Evaluation Report starting at page 22 ,24 and25.

Tim

[boguslaw]

Working on Meyer method and applying it to internal combustion engine is plainly wrong. The main research path should lead to efficient water purification. Wih combustion engine it will be mixed with some other substances needed for lubrication and water price will skyrocket and suddenly we will find a tax placed on water !

[chasson321]

schematic

Thanks chasson321. Great to see this schematic! I have to admit that i'm not the best with electrical engineering. It takes me a long time to understand what i'm looking at. Actually I really don't get it until i build something it seems. Its progressive though. I'm doing better at this with each year. One good thing now is that I have more components to work with now. I appreciate the schematic.

There are three parts to the schematic. Far left is where the high voltage comes into the bridge rectifier and its output goes to the SCR.

The middle is just a 12v and 5.5v power supply. Currently only the 5.5v is used to power the last part of the circuit. THe 12v supply can be used to power a cooling fan which may or may not be needed.

The last part of the circuit determines the pulse rate, x, x2, x3 and x4. First being 0 to 10, then 10 to 100, 100 to 1000 and 1000 to 10000.

These activate the H11D1 to send a signal to the SCR to send HV to the Diode.

From the Diode to a bifilar choke, approx 2 henry, and then to the WFC array.

An Array must consist of at least ten to twelve tubesets wired in series and isolated from each other except for the incoming water and return water. Notice Stan Meyers WFC from the dune buggy.

h2opower thinks that a flat plate cell that has been modified to be wired and separated into a series plate arrangement, having a solid gasket between the cells, will also work.

I'm still learning this stuff too. However, h2opower has been more than willing to share this with me and put up with my never ending questions.

Thanks again h2opower.

Tim

[sucahyo]

Working on Meyer method and applying it to internal combustion engine is plainly wrong. The main research path should lead to efficient water purification. Wih combustion engine it will be mixed with some other substances needed for lubrication and water price will skyrocket and suddenly we will find a tax placed on water !

In Meyer system the water vapour and NOx were reused.

[Karl]

As far as Meyer is concerned you know I have seen all his work or do I need to show you a photo of me sitting in his car?

Mike

Not at all Mike, would a picture of you sitting in some other persons car prove anything? I have a picture of myself sitting in a Lamborghini, is that proof of "all there work"?

I only have MY WORK

Any clips we can look at?

[Karl]

Trust me folks the Nunnerley thread will leave you waiting, it will be a long wait for a train that wont come, check back in 6 months, there may be advances but it will come to nothing

[Karl]

In Meyer system the water vapour and NOx were reused.

very well said!

[pengrove]

In the attachment, what is the wave form? well it is a carrier with an AM modulation, one frequency with another lower as modulation.

I have seen most of Stans work first hand with my own eyes, I know what is the truth to how he did it, I saw it in a couple of hours of seeing his circuits for real, though it only confirmed what I new before.

Another thing is a lot of his work was copied from others and manipulated to seem it was all his doing, sorry but what H2Opower is doing is a waste of time and money. You may as well use a Faraday cell and change the gas afterwards, the changing of the gas IS THE KEY and nothing else.

By the way the injectors NEVER WORKED, they could, but there is a design fault, the system is so simple you would kick yourself. You would be better off looking at the system of plasma ignition but that alone is not the complete process but comes close.

The whole process takes place from start of process to finish of combustion in MICRO SECOUNDS when a system of injector plugs is used.

Mike

The Meyers Injectors were airplane spark plugs with machined check valves on the ends?

Mike, could you give us more clues as to what you have going on with the micronic fuel. I see that only one bulb exists in design that goes down to 185nm. I am guessing that you are using a quartz bulb for water steralization systems.

so you are using photolosys for one stage of micronic fuel processing. First processes would be super heated steam generator.

superheated steam split by photolysys blended with nitrogen extracted from the ambient air with a diaphram.

IS this the secret?

[pengrove]

Sorry I used that word secret again. They use that word a lot in the masonic books that I have been reading.

How long has it been now? About a year sense we have heard about this micronic fuel? What gives?

Before long many of use will have problems getting supplies. I hope that the micronic fuel knowledge makes it through the transition. Its going to be rough.

[pengrove]

[boguslaw]

Stan Meyer method and Daniel Dingel method are the same method.
Just guessing,but my intuition seems correct most of times...

[Aaron]

get the facts right

He covered the gas processor and injectors with science and theory while others seem lost going round in circles, he was eventually bullied off the thread but still leaves good info.

You're welcome to post but have enough common sense to get the FACTS right. He started to call some us names simply because we believed differently. Then, he started to make threats - this is all in the archives.

And, anyone with common sense can see in Meyer's work that he is recycling exhaust from an engine or from the exhaust above a cooking flame even and diverting some of that right back to where the water gas is leaving the cell so that it is mixed with NITROGEN - "noncombustible gases".

You can everyone else can choose to be willfully ignorant of the facts that Meyer is clearly spelling out for everyone, your choice, but stop your disinformation claiming he was bullied off the thread.