Expanded Atom Theory

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Hi All

I have started this thread after Alex made a post in my none electrolysis thread, just so as to keep that thread on the right track.

The attached document is the start of what I think is happening and is open for useful comment, it is only theory from experiences, don't judge it as completly wrong, all has to be proved

Mike

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Scientific model presented for Brown's gas

[Harvey]

While these two theories are interesting, a simple test would verify if my hypothesis is correct or not.

Hypothesis:
Extra energy is released by the exothermic reaction of burning orthohydrogen. This extra heat also causes thermolysis to occur thus separating newly formed water molecules back into hydrogen and oxygen. The process continues until the endothermic reaction of parahydrogen predominates the combustion. With a steady flow of new gas, parahydrogen is reduced to condensed water and runs of the material, while new orthohydrogen escalates the thermal exchange.

Test1:
Choose various materials for the test, some of which will never reach 3000°C and some that will reach that temperature and beyond. Using a calorimeter, determine energy exchange from each material. Note if those materials that are raised above the thermolysis threshold (~3000°) exhibit excess heat that the other materials do not.

Test2:
Parahydrogen and Orthohydrogen have opposite magnetic polarity relative to their electrical polarity. Using a special chamber with E and M fields properly organized, group the gases into their respective collectors. Repeat test 1 with only Parahydrogen and record the results. Repeat test 1 with only Orthohydrogen and note the results.

If the results from Test 2 show that the excess energy is coming from the exothermic reaction of orthohydrogen, then I think we have solved the puzzle.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

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Scientific model presented for Brown's gas

Yes but two explinations of skining the same cat so to say. My take is that apart from the linear alinement, the atom expands due to the charging.

The electrical charging could be used as an energy source, it was Puharich that noticed that the voltage accross his electrodes was OFF SCALE on his analog volt meter of 250v.

Lots of work to do on this and little time for testing.

Mike

[Duncan]

So I’ve followed here from another thread, I think on the whole it’s probably right to open another thread but a re-cap is required. Mike has told us that the gas produced by heterodyning is entirely different from any possible combination of hydrogen and oxygen. In other words something has changed. It isn’t just Mike whose made this observation It’s also been made by none other than Bob Boyce who of course used the gas for practical racing purposes. Initially in its bottled form and very soon after by on board generation. Bob notes here YouTube - Bob Boyce Interview by Chris Patton; 2 of 9that 4x the power was available using on demand gas production than any possible combination of Hydrogen and Oxygen. Which I suppose explains why Mike wants to combine with nitrogen.
So what do they tell you water is? H2O I hear everyone shout in unison but is it?? It seems there’s an x factor at play here, Bob says so, Mike says so good enough for me!
Alas it goes a lot deeper, the gas has no official name although it been produced for years and years long before Yule,
It now seems that this unidentified gas is possibly 1, 2 or even a multitude of possibly different gases depending on it manufacture, (may be)
The logical approach of course is H2O… all I can expect to get out of water is Hydrogen and Oxygen from whence comes this 3rd party? There are not Many people who have made (for want of a better description) Brown’s gas let alone compared it with bottled Hydrogen and oxygen, The natural assumption of anyone producing this gas by whatever method is to call it “Browns gas” after all how would they know any different?
Two people with first hand experience are telling us loud and clear something is very different!
I’m no chemist indeed what I know about chemistry would fit comfortably on the back of a match box still I can conjecture for everyone else’s amusement. And I’ll start with the Major component water, is rain water for instance the same as tap water? No rain water smells different, Rain water is oxygen rich, Indeed according to this article its actually weak hydrogen peroxide which it seems can do some remarkable things http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/b...17jul03.shtml. I can’t comment on the cancer cure aspect but I did advise a friend with prostate cancer to try it, I’m glad to report he’s still with us and well.
There is then the snow flake issue six sides and every snowflake different, really? Who checked? The Bible has a bit to say about Snow flakes and hail Job 38:22 "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, Perhaps one of the most amazing water researchers is Dr Masaru Emoto I find It hard to believe that water can sense but that don’t mean it aint so! Dr Emoto also notes a magnetic component being involved in a snow flake.YouTube - Interview Masaru Emoto
And we know there is a deal of power locked up in it!
What of heavy water could that fit in … Oh many questions I see why Mike moved this thread!!
What of the frequency and waveform being used to fracture the water could we expect a slightly different gas with each wave shape rather like the snow flake?

[Harvey]

There is no doubt that any two volumes of water are different by some measure due to dissolved gases.

Even 'Pure' water left open for a few seconds begins to readily dissolve gases out of the air.

Some of the basics are covered here:
Water Chemistry

Of particular interest is the sections on PH and Dissolved Oxygen.

Among the many interesting characteristics of water are the various phases as noted here:
Ice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think one of the more beautiful latices I have read about is ICE-TEN or Ice X:
http://www.btinternet.com/~martin.chaplin/ice_x.html



What I learn from these things is that where water is concerned, temperature and pressure are just as important as electromagnetic environment and solution (dissolved elements). They all play an orchestrated part in the fabric and molecular interaction. We could probably also add macro-kinetic to that list, where whole molecular assemblies are in motion due to external energy like sonic, UV or RF.

If there is any type of map showing all the interactive possibilities relating energy to water, this would be a good place to post it.