None Electrolytic Splitting Of H2o

[Duncan]

How elegant!

[Michael John Nunnerley]

20mhz cristal

@All

I chose this because it is quite stable at that frequency without using an oven to maintain the cristal temperature.

At higher frequencies the cristals are very thin and move frequency depending on temperature.

As Dr. Stiffler has said, you can use other means to obtain these frequencies, all you need at the end of the day is a good clean signal, the trick is not in the electronics, it is in the cell where these signals interreact. I do not think that the exact frequencies of 120mhz and 720mhz is important, what is important is the spacing "6X"

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

@Michael
You may find this interesting;

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2003/hydrogen-0924.html

Hydrogen bonds in liquid water are broken only fleetingly — PNAS

Thank you, very interesting

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Mike, I was wondering how you viewed the media, what I mean is do you consider it to be non-linear or linear?

In the SEC Theory the Lattice is a linear medium and return for my purpose is via Superposition rather than a mixing in a non-linear fashion. This only applies when looking at my last question of whether the to separate 120 and 720 are doing the work or if it is a synthesis of the two primaries.

I think the last post answers your question, I view it as linear.

I view the finite space between the frequencies is like a fulcrum point and that point is the breaking point.

I have not had time to go through all the questions yet, but I will do now and try to answer over then next few hours.

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I'm back

Well I am back from my trip which was quite eventfull to say the least. First I will explain the frequencies.

The frequencies I chose could have been other frequencies, but, the difference between them is important.

If you look at the first frequency of 120mhz, the secound is 6X to 720mhz. We now look at the heterodyning frequencies:-

Without filtering out we will get many orders of exact frequencies with a finite space between them. If we were to start with only 3X difference between these two frequencies we would get a different result.

Example:-

100mhz and 300mhz

200 400
200 600
400 800
400 1200

100mhz and 600mhz


500 700
200 1200
1000 1400
400 2400
2000 2800

Now you can see the difference with a 6X spacing rather than a 3X spacing. Each new frequency will interreact in a heterodyning mode as well and you need to run this through a computor program to see the full frequency spectrum.

Mike

[DrStiffler]

Mike! an additional question

Mike, I was wondering how you viewed the media, what I mean is do you consider it to be non-linear or linear?

In the SEC Theory the Lattice is a linear medium and return for my purpose is via Superposition rather than a mixing in a non-linear fashion. This only applies when looking at my last question of whether the to separate 120 and 720 are doing the work or if it is a synthesis of the two primaries.

[DrStiffler]

I'd like to add the following argument to this discussion: If you want excess energy in your system, IMHO you will have to use at least full wave antenna's. The more standing waves that fit in you antenna's, the more excess energy you will get, because you only have to drive one half wave yourself, the rest is powered by the electric field for free. That is one of the secrets the scientific community won't tell you. They say that resonance does not deliver energy and that it's just a matter of "impedance matching" to explain why antenna's have a gain. Well, Tesla nocked out a complete power plant using resonance, so don't buy that B.S. that it's just "impedance matching".

@lamare

If you want excess energy in your system, IMHO you will have to use at least full wave antenna's.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you said here? If you are referring to Mike's injection system, its not an issue of excess energy, it a molecular vibrational issue. This will cause a vibration of the bonds as Mike explained with his stick analogy. If you need to reference it back to 'The Great Tesla' then think of what he supposedly did with his little vibration generators. A very small oscillation would randomly set into a sustained and feedback loop which would lead to the disruption of mass.... Unless I have missed what Mike is doing and saying the excess energy is gained via the gas liberation in excess of the input energy from the RF system?

resonance does not deliver energy and that it's just a matter of "impedance matching" to explain why antenna's have a gain.

I would very much appreciate you directing me to any work that states that antenna's are gainful? The obtain the gain if you will by reducing the field over which the energy is directed. If this has been shown otherwise I would be more than willing to relearn this part about antenna design.

nocked out a complete power plant using resonance, so don't buy that B.S. that it's just "impedance matching"

This is pretty general indeed. I would think that you should rather say that is certain circuits 'Impedance Matching is not necessary for maximal power transfer'. Of course if you pulse a circuit with a square wave in the proper way you can set it into a decaying (ringing) oscillation at its resonance point, regardless of the driving impedance so long as the drive does not load and so drag down the Q of the driven so that full ringing is not possible.

Further I don't think Tesla what Tesla did was all that significant when one considers the generation technology for the electrical grid at that time. It common office knowledge that the early office photocopiers would bump the service so much that it would disrupt office computers and often throw breakers. My view of some of his work is not all that significant when viewed today, granted he was a great experimenter and contributed heavily to what we have today, yet what about all the rest of the great men of that period??

[Duncan]

[Duncan]

[Duncan]

[Aaron]

crystal oscillators

A crystal oscillator is under $5 and the circuit for the oscillator part
is like 10 parts... probably takes less time to build one than the time it
takes to cannibalize something else... possibly.

In either case, for under $10, there are "crystal oscillator modules"
available in a little package not much bigger than a crystal itself.
It has the entire circuitry built in for the oscillator part of the circuit.

"crystal oscillator module" - Google Search

And another simple circuit that 'might' work:
Make your own oscillator modules!

[Duncan]

NEN Gallery : 1970s radio I guess things have altered and advanced since then thank you Dr for a well directed nudge in the right direction.
Other things I am considering that could be altered are Beta 87A on PGX Handheld TransmitterUHF Modulator RF 900 Channel 21-69 on eBay (end time 04-Oct-10 21:37:31 BST)

[lamare]

Excess energy

I'd like to add the following argument to this discussion: If you want excess energy in your system, IMHO you will have to use at least full wave antenna's. The more standing waves that fit in you antenna's, the more excess energy you will get, because you only have to drive one half wave yourself, the rest is powered by the electric field for free. That is one of the secrets the scientific community won't tell you. They say that resonance does not deliver energy and that it's just a matter of "impedance matching" to explain why antenna's have a gain. Well, Tesla nocked out a complete power plant using resonance, so don't buy that B.S. that it's just "impedance matching".

[Vickers]

Good Thread

Here is something of interest.
My uncle is a WW2 veteran and has a wealth of info stored in his head. Which is easily accessed via a catalyst of ethanol and coke. LOL
Anyway...After a few catalyst he confided that soldiers in need of a hot drink with lack of combustibles would use 2 army issue spoons and the antenna of a army issue field radio to boil a cup of water in seconds.
The spoons were opposed to each other like a couple of parabolic sound reflection dishes that are commonplace at technology museums.
A whisper can be heard 50 yards away in the opposing dish etc...

[Aaron]

Pll

Mike mentioned something to keep it tuned.
That means some kind of PLL phase locked loop
circuit - does this take out all the deviation
in the crystal itself?

This PLL isn't in the diagram but Mike did mention
it. I'm only guessing he is referring to a PLL.