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Hmmm might I add....
I just wanted to throw in that you both are correct. Yes a pulsed dc goes in but the transformer is converting that to ac via the bemf spike. If you wanted to have dc output from it you need to have another method to separate the original pulse from the resulting ringing, making the out put out of phase and increased in voltage potential. My only reference is Tesla and this is how he did it automatically. He used a arc gap. When the resulting bemf gets high enough it will arc across the space and after that you have an out of phase reaction to the initial dc pulse through the limiter or the arc space.
Hairbear is pretty much on track here. Normally people use diodes but the same effect can be attained by an arc gap much like Tesla employed. This type of circuit is a method to get what you put in as an opposite reaction and limited to only one result that could trigger the arc space to fire. No matter how you see it a transformer does what Hairbear is saying. Even if you don't want the other half it is still there. Thats why we employ arc spaces and diodes to shun the initiator pulse to get an opposite higher voltage output but unfiltered that resultant waveform will be ac. With the required filter (diode or arc space) it it becomes a mirror of the input without the ac form. Tesla referred to it as an impulse transformer. When you add a capacitor to the circuit it becomes a disruptive impulse transformer.
It's not that he is being childish it is because if we are to be figuring out this stuff we must maintain a certain methodology and it's terms as well. This way a confusion won't be passed on, then everyone gets confused. Hairbear means well but if you are going to be doing this stuff like this it is important to use the right terms and methods to explain what you are doing.
I am not saying this to take sides. What I am saying is that if we are wrong or in error we must admit it, thank the person who gave us a nudge in the right direction, so that we don't confuse the rest who are learning. Now lets shake hands apologize to each other and move on.
I just wanted to throw in that you both are correct. Yes a pulsed dc goes in but the transformer is converting that to ac via the bemf spike. If you wanted to have dc output from it you need to have another method to separate the original pulse from the resulting ringing, making the out put out of phase and increased in voltage potential. My only reference is Tesla and this is how he did it automatically. He used a arc gap. When the resulting bemf gets high enough it will arc across the space and after that you have an out of phase reaction to the initial dc pulse through the limiter or the arc space.
Hairbear is pretty much on track here. Normally people use diodes but the same effect can be attained by an arc gap much like Tesla employed. This type of circuit is a method to get what you put in as an opposite reaction and limited to only one result that could trigger the arc space to fire. No matter how you see it a transformer does what Hairbear is saying. Even if you don't want the other half it is still there. Thats why we employ arc spaces and diodes to shun the initiator pulse to get an opposite higher voltage output but unfiltered that resultant waveform will be ac. With the required filter (diode or arc space) it it becomes a mirror of the input without the ac form. Tesla referred to it as an impulse transformer. When you add a capacitor to the circuit it becomes a disruptive impulse transformer.
It's not that he is being childish it is because if we are to be figuring out this stuff we must maintain a certain methodology and it's terms as well. This way a confusion won't be passed on, then everyone gets confused. Hairbear means well but if you are going to be doing this stuff like this it is important to use the right terms and methods to explain what you are doing.
I am not saying this to take sides. What I am saying is that if we are wrong or in error we must admit it, thank the person who gave us a nudge in the right direction, so that we don't confuse the rest who are learning. Now lets shake hands apologize to each other and move on.
), but believe it or not I'm always prepared to admit to making a mistake if that is the case. Afterall, it serves me no good to be at fault, while thinking I'm right. All I ask is that people explain themselves and show their reasoning.
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