Ionization & Water Fuel

[vrand]

CH3-NH2 is chemical formula of Methylamine.. is strange molecule composed from carbon,nitrogen and hydrogen atoms.. no more people know that is an potential car fuel..
Nitrogen (N2), oxygen (O2), argon (Ar), carbon dioxide (CO2), and water vapor (H2O). These gases account for 99.997% of the volumetric composition of standard air and also account for better than 99.9% of most combustion gases (but Meyer don't use air and exaust gas)? . However the water amount isn't stable on air for that Meyer mix an extra amount. Remember one important thing... Meyer use steam resonator for ionized and heated water molecules first of mix with air (or exaust gas). The function of gas processor in fact is extractions of electrons from mixture molecules CO2+H2O+O2+N2 and for absorb electrons (very important) him use EEC. Maybe as result is obtained CH3NH2+O2.
Probably at today exist other better system (reactor) for extract electrons, more advanced but simple at the same time based every on high voltage, in all case your fuel mixture is recomposed out.

How do you extract electrons in your reactor?

Thanks, Mike

[tutanka]

I see, I didn't realise it was multiple choice... so what fuel are you creating exactly?

Ionization Process is simple to understand ..

For obtain NH3 and N2O you need N2/H20
For obtain H3C-NH2 you need CO2,H2O,N2, brillint idea can be using exaust gas

In all case Fuel gas is obtained OUT not during process!

[tutanka]

Then you should be thanking h2opower for it is his "OPEN SOURCE" that Tutanka's enlightenment comes from. Without h2opowers "OPEN SOURCE" Tutanka would just be building one WFC after the next looking for different results every time. h2opower started all of this with "OPEN SOURCE" but this site would not have him and his free giving ways. He even pointed out that what they are purposing violates the conservation of mass and the conservation of energy, did all the math, science, and everything. You see the one thing that holds true is you start off with what hydrogen you have at the beginning, changing it into something else will give you no net gain in power but only a net loss.

This is all suppose to be about sharing, and higher learning sticking to the principals of science is it not? Are we not all trying help humanity or are we trying to push humanity in a new energy system preserving the same old type of energy enslavement as the current energy system? These are the hard questions that mark these times of BP oil spills and environmental catastrophes. Aren't we suppose to be the ones leading the way to a free and clean energy source for humanity?

I'll ask Tutanka directly, "Where would you be right now without h2opower's OPEN SOURCE work?"

Tim

DEAR TIM,
IM NOT A COPIER LIKE H2OPOWER!
OUR IONIZATION SYSTEM OR REACTOR (WE USE ONLY ONE) IS BASED ON DIFFERENT PRINCIPLE AND I REMEMBER YOU THAT ALL START FROM MEYER NOT FROM H2OPOWER!
I HAVE ONLY UNDERSTAND AND DECRYPT MEYER PATENTS AND DON'T HAVE COPY AS H2OPOWER! THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

[tutanka]

How do you extract electrons in your reactor?

Thanks, Mike

Mike.. We use as Meyer ONLY high voltage in specific way..

[chasson321]

DEAR TIM,
IM NOT A COPIER LIKE H2OPOWER!
OUR IONIZATION SYSTEM OR REACTOR (WE USE ONLY ONE) IS BASED ON DIFFERENT PRINCIPLE AND I REMEMBER YOU THAT ALL START FROM MEYER NOT FROM H2OPOWER!
I HAVE ONLY UNDERSTAND AND DECRYPT MEYER PATENTS AND DON'T HAVE COPY AS H2OPOWER! THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

But without h2opower's work where would you be? As he is the only one on the whole world wide web that ever started talking about Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor and he shared his ideas with all of us, did he not?

But the whole point of all of this is to start an Energy Revolution that frees humanity from the current system of energy enslavement, right? As far as h2opower goes it is history that he was the first to talk about other parts of Meyer's work other than just the WFC and VIC transformer. You can look it up for yourself if you don't believe me, in-fact anyone can look up and make a time-line as to what was being done on Meyer's patents before and after h2opower hit the world wide web.

Tim

[tutanka]

But without h2opower's work where would you be? As he is the only one on the whole world wide web that ever started talking about Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor and he shared his ideas with all of us, did he not?

But the whole point of all of this is to start an Energy Revolution that frees humanity from the current system of energy enslavement, right? As far as h2opower goes it is history that he was the first to talk about other parts of Meyer's work other than just the WFC and VIC transformer. You can look it up for yourself if you don't believe me, in-fact anyone can look up and make a time-line as to what was being done on Meyer's patents before and after h2opower hit the world wide web.

Tim

Tim,
I can agree with you only on that.. H2OPOWER have started thread on Meyer but have only copy ad don't understand principle. For that reason.. thanks.. but after? H2OPOWER is every based to copy meyer patent and probably don't have obtained any working result if you write here. Im here don't for start an war Im in peace.. If we have reached success is only because we have analyzed differently the meyer patents. Regards

[vrand]

Mike.. We use as Meyer ONLY high voltage in specific way..

Alex, you mentioned the Meyers EEC several times over the past year. How do you know if you are creating a plasma or ionizing the gases?

Thanks, Mike

[sucahyo]

But without h2opower's work where would you be? As he is the only one on the whole world wide web that ever started talking about Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor and he shared his ideas with all of us, did he not?

h2opower gas processor concept is very different from what being discussed here. his output is 4 state ionized oxygen without any NOx, which is not the goal in this thread.

Any work being done in this thread should never considered a derivation from h2opower work. As far as I know tutanka do not use Laser which h2opower considered very very important. While anyone following h2opower by using LED is doing great mistakes because h2opower never discuss the future of his LED based implementation anymore.

[tutanka]

Alex, you mentioned the Meyers EEC several times over the past year. How do you know if you are creating a plasma or ionizing the gases?

Thanks, Mike

see images attached..

[mina]

It looks like someone has beat everybody here to market with a system that runs on 100% water.

The vehicle is a 2004 Dodge pickup truck with an 8 cylinder engine. In the first video below, the owner is driving around in public on the streets of Arizona. He has no problems until he reaches a steep grade or he gives the engine full throttle for too long.

He uses an electrolyte and the additional 2 videos give us more details on his exact setup. A phone number is also provided in one of the videos along with an email address. The company's name is Future Energy Concepts Inc.

YouTube - 2004 DODGE PU RUNS ON 100% WATER.mpg

YouTube - FEC Prototype 1.wmv

YouTube - 100% HHO Powered PU.wmv

[tutanka]

It looks like someone has beat everybody here to market with a system that runs on 100% water.

The vehicle is a 2004 Dodge pickup truck with an 8 cylinder engine. In the first video below, the owner is driving around in public on the streets of Arizona. He has no problems until he reaches a steep grade or he gives the engine full throttle for too long.

He uses an electrolyte and the additional 2 videos give us more details on his exact setup. A phone number is also provided in one of the videos along with an email address. The company's name is Future Energy Concepts Inc.

YouTube - 2004 DODGE PU RUNS ON 100% WATER.mpg

YouTube - FEC Prototype 1.wmv

YouTube - 100% HHO Powered PU.wmv

For me it's an fake but you can buy an kit from that company, test on your car and after send us th results..

[vrand]

see images attached..

No images where attached. Can you please reattach.
Thanks

[tutanka]

No images where attached. Can you please reattach.
Thanks

Attached previoulsy

http://www.energeticforum.com/104112-post1144.html

[vrand]

Attached previoulsy
http://www.energeticforum.com/104112-post1144.html

Ahh ok thanks.

What are those photos of? The On/Off of the reactor? One photo looked darker than the other. Was that the end view or top view? What is the maximum input energy, still under 100 watts?

Thanks

[tutanka]

Ahh ok thanks.

What are those photos of? The On/Off of the reactor? One photo looked darker than the other. Was that the end view or top view? What is the maximum input energy, still under 100 watts?

Thanks

blue/purple= on reactor - no gas processed
yellow/brown= on reactor - gas processed

power consumed=200W