Ionization & Water Fuel

[Aaron]

High-pressure photodissociation of water as a tool for hydrogen synthesis and fundame

Here is the COMPLETE ENGLISH article for the LENS Experiment:
High-pressure photodissociation of water as a tool for hydrogen synthesis and fundamental chemistry

Here is the complete article in English that I posted on Feb 1.

[sebosfato]

Hi tutanka wouldn't your process to achieve the thermal energy by combining the h2 02 with n2 or whatever, create also an very big amount of NO's in the exhaust output? And consume more oxygen from atmosphere?

I mean this because i was thinking that maybe your thermal energy is coming from the extra reaction of the nitrogen combined (bigger molecule as you state) with still more oxygen from air.

Basically in this case yes you will obtain more thermal explosive energy but would still consume the oxygen from the air and still release a big amount of Nox.

Can you please tell me if i'm wrong?

the nitrogen hydroxide can be used to improve growth of plants a lot did you knew it?

[dave_cahoon]

Meyer did say you didnt get all the oxygen back. I've seen the video his lips said that.
Maybe its not destroyed atomically just converted to an oxide that's not as bad.

Maybe he was thinking you don't get all the nitrogen back???

If the exhaust has Fixed Nitrogen in it than were doing nature a favor.

Dave

[dave_cahoon]

The differing larger energy outputs are from Mono-Atomic H1 + H1 = H2 type reactions and then the H2+O2 type reactions that follow.

Nitrogen fixes Hydrogen (ie holds it for us) later it can be sparked when needed.

The differences are known.

Dave

[sebosfato]

Meyer did say you didnt get all the oxygen back. I've seen the video his lips said that.
Maybe its not destroyed atomically just converted to an oxide that's not as bad.

Maybe he was thinking you don't get all the nitrogen back???

If the exhaust has Fixed Nitrogen in it than were doing nature a favor.

Dave

NOX are pollution as much or worse than CO2 or C0

[dave_cahoon]

NOX are pollution as much or worse than CO2 or C0

You think CO2 is pollution thats part of the problem, Its not pollution.

I cant get into that anymore than that its simple, furans dioxins poisons co2 LOL
I'm very sorry for affending you in anyway whatsoever DAC

Fixed nitrogen maybe bad for the city...

Dave

[tutanka]

Hi tutanka wouldn't your process to achieve the thermal energy by combining the h2 02 with n2 or whatever, create also an very big amount of NO's in the exhaust output? And consume more oxygen from atmosphere?

I mean this because i was thinking that maybe your thermal energy is coming from the extra reaction of the nitrogen combined (bigger molecule as you state) with still more oxygen from air.

Basically in this case yes you will obtain more thermal explosive energy but would still consume the oxygen from the air and still release a big amount of Nox.

Can you please tell me if i'm wrong?

the nitrogen hydroxide can be used to improve growth of plants a lot did you knew it?

NOx... they are not released as exaust gas.. I can't write complete formula but we are speaking about chemistry (mathematical) not magical system as yours

[sucahyo]

Hi tutanka wouldn't your process to achieve the thermal energy by combining the h2 02 with n2 or whatever, create also an very big amount of NO's in the exhaust output? And consume more oxygen from atmosphere?

According to Honda exhaust document posted by h2opower a rich mixture will produce more NH3 and less NOx.
Temple of VTEC Rumors and News - Honda Develops Next-Generation Clean Diesel Engine

- During lean burn operation, the NOx adsorbent in the lower layer adsorbs NOx from the exhaust gas.
- As needed, the engine management system adjusts the engine air-fuel ratio to rich-burn, wherein the NOx in the NOx adsorption layer reacts with hydrogen (H2) obtained from the exhaust gas to produce ammonia (NH3).The adsorbent material in the upper layer temporarily adsorbs the NH3.
-When the engine returns to lean-burn operation, NH3 adsorbed in the upper layer reacts with NOx in the exhaust gas and reduces it to harmless nitrogen (N2).

According to Meyer NOx can be reduced if Oxygen to Hydrogen ratio is 2:1. If it still exist, I think tutanka can just use his ionizer to clean up, just like what Meyer do, using his VIC ionizer to exhaust. This should work just like catalytic converter:

[sebosfato]

[tutanka]

WITH ALL THESE REACTIONS IT IS NECESSARY AN ENGINE 8 STROKES ...

[sebosfato]

ahaha good one


If this document howtomakenitrogenhydroxide.pdf information is correct, you are saying that you are not using an electrolyte. But states that the exhaust gases (containing No and No2) should pass thru the water thus it should create nitric acid witch is will behave as electrolyte right? You mean by no electrolyte the non use of koh or nah ... Right?

[tutanka]

ahaha good one


If this document howtomakenitrogenhydroxide.pdf information is correct, you are saying that you are not using an electrolyte. But states that the exhaust gases (containing No and No2) should pass thru the water thus it should create nitric acid witch is will behave as electrolyte right? You mean by no electrolyte the non use of koh or nah ... Right?

Sorry .. but you don't work on 10Kw of H2 creation with only 100W?? Now you are interested to my work??

[Slovenia]

Tutanka,

You are a very cool wise fellow. This thread is much more fun than watching television because of the interaction of the many different personalities and attitudes. You have something everyone wants. Most people expect others to give much more than they themselves are willing to give but are blind to their own selfishness and the beat goes on.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[sebosfato]

Yes, actually even more than that but we have some complications to solve yet, like you may have too, i imagine. But man i'm interested in everything related . I'm however more curious and surprised than worried.

I'm not working against you, I'm working for maybe we can join forces together if possible...

[tutanka]

Yes, actually even more than that but we have some complications to solve yet, like you may have too, i imagine. But man i'm interested in everything related . I'm however more curious and surprised than worried.

I'm not working against you, I'm working for maybe we can join forces together if possible...

Sebo..... OK.... but that project is finished.. all is explained !! Maybe you can work to my other project. With Oneminde we are talking possibilty to developed an direct ammonia fuel cell