New Stan Meyer replication

[tutanka]

xogen and heterodyne

This image is extracted from xogen patent..

The xogen patent is an clear example of heterodyne effect and you can see clearly that the pulse frequency is on the positive!!

But.... I have found that the heterodyne effect is amplified if pulse is added also on negative.

In this case the extra current produced from the heterodyne effect is used from the cell producing gas without the INPUT power source.

[jonabel1971]

I mean it. Stop posting here. You have your own thread - so post there.

I have seen MULTITUDES of HHO generators make more gas then mine - it doesn't make it a scalable machine, nor a resonant machine.

And, that's really not the point. The point on this thread is to show a natural resonance in an LRC circuit - with water as the resistor. Your machine DOES NOT do that - it's just passing "beats" through the water. Single frequencies cannot produce "pulse trains". They only produce pulses.


EVERYBODY - 2 frequencies are needed for a Stan Meyer reproduction.

From your video I don't see flame test or good gas production.

When heterodyne effect work inside the cell you produce some gas because the reaction produce more current independently from the input.
This effect is visible clearly inside my video .. the power supply go to zero absorption producing every same amount of gas.

Here are my videos.. I have started in a fast time but the next week I sent new one increasing heterodyne effect building an new firmware with different heterodyne pulses on plates.


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post227792

[tutanka]

I mean it. Stop posting here. You have your own thread - so post there.

I have seen MULTITUDES of HHO generators make more gas then mine - it doesn't make it a scalable machine, nor a resonant machine.

And, that's really not the point. The point on this thread is to show a natural resonance in an LRC circuit - with water as the resistor. Your machine DOES NOT do that - it's just passing "beats" through the water. Single frequencies cannot produce "pulse trains". They only produce pulses.


EVERYBODY - 2 frequencies are needed for a Stan Meyer reproduction.

Just two frequencies are used inside my board.


However if gas production is the one that I saw in this video Scalable Rapid Hydrogen Production Machine Replicated at a Fargo, ND university on June 1st, 2011 - YouTube I suggest you to update your circuit.

I stop to write in your threads!!

[jonabel1971]

You let me worry about that.

It's time that you let people deal with their own progress.
That is not up to you.
Bye.

Just two frequencies are used inside my board.


However if gas production is the one that I saw in this video Scalable Rapid Hydrogen Production Machine Replicated at a Fargo, ND university on June 1st, 2011 - YouTube I suggest you to update your circuit.

I stop to write in your threads!!

[Duncan]

[MasterBlaster]

The reason Tutanka is pointing to hetrodyning and Mikes work is because he knows and points out the relationship between the two frequencies and how they interact. .. which of course takes all the guess work out of the second oscillator

Duncan, Did they show resonance?

[Duncan]

Lecture 1 | The Fourier Transforms and its Applications - YouTube

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6431-none-electrolytic-splitting-h2o-4.html#post111774

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you are actually considering of course a casimir effect . Also I think you'll find that the WFC is tuned in the manner of radio Hams in such a way that a standing wave is across the cell (overall) in the fashion of a Standing wave which is Null (zero current) and maximum voltage
Standing Wave Ratio explained - YouTubeHow to build a Hutchison Power Cell !!!! - YouTube

[jonabel1971]

Thanks- I think?

This is what they mean by killing a thread with obscurity. Way too much info here.

Both Stan and Bob said themselves that it makes little difference how the pulse trains are created. Your concentration on how to create the pulse train is really just splitting hairs.

The question that you did not answer is this- how many scope shots of Stan's resonant signal have you seen since Stan's death. Please attach any links you know of- that point to these screenshots.

Lecture 1 | The Fourier Transforms and its Applications - YouTube

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6431-none-electrolytic-splitting-h2o-4.html#post111774

1 to 6 Bob Boyce Interview by Chris Patton (Uncut version) talking shop about hydroxy e - YouTubeslightlyYAGI ANTENNA DESIGN BASICS - Learn More About a Yagi (Beam) antenna!
you are actually considering of course a casimir effect . Also I think you'll find that the WFC is tuned in the manner of radio Hams in such a way that a standing wave is across the cell (overall) in the fashion of a Standing wave which is Null (zero current) and maximum voltage
Standing Wave Ratio explained - YouTubeHow to build a Hutchison Power Cell !!!! - YouTube

[adys15]

My machine has always produced rust with tap water, and has always left the water clean-looking with distilled water. This has never changed. I don't believe conditioning is needed with Stan's tech. I don't believe it is ever mentioned.[/QUOTE]

Hy Jon(we talked on fb) ,glad that i found you on this forum...Good info you posted.I don't know why people make it so complicated,Jon adviced like to a child...simple and compact...For those who dont understand the transformer please see ''The Birth of...'' fig 6.1 or injector vic...Jon do you remember how you wired the start/end of winding of all coils? about the conditioning...Stan's setup pics are public for over an year...did someone seen the white coating on the 3inch wfc or the democell?NO ....Don also said that the tubes were clean...

About Ravi...he might inspire some of us at the begining but he didn't replicated anything related to Stan...I don't know why people ''worship'' him so much.1.st ravi coaded his tubes ..Stan didn't.2.ravi used just simple chokes that acted as a little resistor because he didnt use the DIODE to keed the wfc charged...You might think chokes restricted the curent but didnt,what restricted the curent was the coating on the tubes...i tried coated tubes on strait dc and consumed below 1amp.so...3rd..he didnt use a stepup transf with chokes...just chokes wired badly...4.he didnt had stepcharge,nor hv.. I think the real replication was that of JL Naudin and later Jon that showed the S.M. phenomena...Once again thanks Jon for your efforts in trying to learn people and hard work.So guys start winding coils and less complicating the process you will learn alot...Cheers!

[adys15]

This image is extracted from xogen patent..

The xogen patent is an clear example of heterodyne effect and you can see clearly that the pulse frequency is on the positive!!

But.... I have found that the heterodyne effect is amplified if pulse is added also on negative.

In this case the extra current produced from the heterodyne effect is used from the cell producing gas without the INPUT power source.

Xogen patent is a joke,i wonder how they receive it...in a skematic they show you how a skematic that uses a555 and 2 crap transistors pulsed and a wfc...Now thats hi-tech...What the pulses are doing to the water?i think magical thinkerig of the atoms...

[adys15]

Hey, I already posted my plans and videos for free, to show a different behavior than DC electrolysis - what more do you want? As for Aaron's advice, you will not find any "Nitrogen technology" by Stan Meyer online. If Aaron DOES have some sort of hidden Meyer's technology, then what is he doing here on the discussions? - It looks like twice he had tried to kill discussion of Meyer's Hydrogen technology - by deflecting attention to Nitrogen gas - and then not elaborating on the technology. Aaron is full of crap - he is paid for the lies and abuse he spews. Argon gas was one of the non-combustible gases that Stan spoke of, too - does that mean I should interrupt and discredit OTHER people's attempts at Meyer's technology? Believe who you want, but I don't get a cent for giving away my work. Also, anybody can write a book full of nonsense - its called science fiction. So, I don't try to misinform - just to get a book sold. I'm not doing this for money, so again, who is tainted?

Aron please keep the forum clean and stop bothering people with your nitrogen crap NITROGEN IS A NON-COMBUSTIBLE GAS...the ''secret'' that is in the patent writen as big as your head... is striping the electrons of the oxigen atom (from ambient air)to increase his power output that was done with the gas processor located on the intake of the engine...Watch IronDmax on youtube...Cheers!

[Ein~+ein]

Aron please keep the forum clean and stop bothering people with your nitrogen crap NITROGEN IS A NON-COMBUSTIBLE GAS...the ''secret'' that is in the patent writen as big as your head... is striping the electrons of the oxigen atom (from ambient air)to increase his power output that was done with the gas processor located on the intake of the engine...Watch IronDmax on youtube...Cheers!

How do you know what Aaron says is crap?
How do you know what IronDmx says isn't?

You realize that in the very least, you're going to have to provide evidence as Aaron had (unless you're disputing that evidence), that S.M. made reference to LEDs or lasers OR prove it, because those who've done this research make NO SUCH CLAIM.

[adys15]

How do you know what Aaron says is crap?
How do you know what IronDmx says isn't?

You realize that in the very least, you're going to have to provide evidence as Aaron had (unless you're disputing that evidence), that S.M. made reference to LEDs or lasers OR prove it, because those who've done this research make NO SUCH CLAIM.

I dont have to proove nothing,just build Jon's setup like he advices and you will see it works,worked for me

''How do you know what Aaron says is crap?
How do you know what IronDmx says isn't? ''


Max prooved everithing he said...about S.M. efect...he is working on the gas procesor now,and what he said makes sense.What Aron proved?what he have done with nitrogen since is a noncombustible?lower the burnrate?Stan did this with exaust gases....Lets close this discution on nitrogen and say that Stan mentioned about nitrogen when he said that it is not a danger for the environment because is in very small amount coming out the exaust...So lets not polute this thread with more nitrogen.
here is a scopeshot,,it is a souncardpcscope so its no clearThe secound is where Stan mentions about LED;s...Cheers

[tutanka]

I dont have to proove nothing,just build Jon's setup like he advices and you will see it works,worked for me

''How do you know what Aaron says is crap?
How do you know what IronDmx says isn't? ''


Max prooved everithing he said...about S.M. efect...he is working on the gas procesor now,and what he said makes sense.What Aron proved?what he have done with nitrogen since is a noncombustible?lower the burnrate?Stan did this with exaust gases....Lets close this discution on nitrogen and say that Stan mentioned about nitrogen when he said that it is not a danger for the environment because is in very small amount coming out the exaust...So lets not polute this thread with more nitrogen.
here is a scopeshot,,it is a souncardpcscope so its no clearThe secound is where Stan mentions about LED;s...Cheers

Again, again and again..

We are talking every of plasma air.. and the reaction for start need plasma and electrons bt remember also that ionization don't have long life..

[adys15]

Again, again and again..

We are talking every of plasma air.. and the reaction for start need plasma and electrons bt remember also that ionization don't have long life..

if you imediadly consume the electrons the oxigen atom remain highly energized untill gas ignition.