Gasoline Made From Water and Air

[ibpointless2]

Here is a clip from the whole article. It sounds too good to be true!

The synthetic petrol is produced by mixing air with sodium hydroxide to create sodium carbonate, then electrolyzing it to release pure CO2, Daily Mail reporter Damien Gayle explained. Likewise, water is electrolyzed to release hydrogen and the two substances are then reacted with each other under different conditions, depending upon which type of fuel the engineers are attempting to fabricate.

“Extracting carbon dioxide from air – effectively removing the principal industrial greenhouse gas from the atmosphere – has been described as the ‘holy grail’ of the emerging green economy.” Gayle said. “However, recycling that extracted carbon dioxide into fuel usable in existing engines has the potential to transform the world’s environmental and economic landscape.”

Synthetic Gas Made From Air And Water - Science News - redOrbit

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Here is a clip from the whole article. It sounds too good to be true!

The synthetic petrol is produced by mixing air with sodium hydroxide to create sodium carbonate, then electrolyzing it to release pure CO2, Daily Mail reporter Damien Gayle explained. Likewise, water is electrolyzed to release hydrogen and the two substances are then reacted with each other under different conditions, depending upon which type of fuel the engineers are attempting to fabricate.

“Extracting carbon dioxide from air – effectively removing the principal industrial greenhouse gas from the atmosphere – has been described as the ‘holy grail’ of the emerging green economy.” Gayle said. “However, recycling that extracted carbon dioxide into fuel usable in existing engines has the potential to transform the world’s environmental and economic landscape.”

Synthetic Gas Made From Air And Water - Science News - redOrbit

This is what I have been doing for a few years and posted this here on this forum "but few believed me". I can take CO2 and water and make different types of synthetic fuel depending on the reactor design and catylist. This is old chemistry brought into the 21st century but with low power input.

My site http://www.centraflow.yolasite.com/

Mike

P.S.

I hope they don't think they are going to patent this!!! I will sue

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Read the section "about us"

Mike

[velacreations]

I'd be interested in learning more about this, Mike. Do you have a thread on here about it?

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I'd be interested in learning more about this, Mike. Do you have a thread on here about it?

The thread was a private thread not open to all, now all the work is done privatly, and I only post things on my web site as and when I have time and if I think I am not going to be giving benifit to companies so as to bury it.

There are many out there who do not want this opened out to the world when it can be done very cheaply. I am working on a home scale model at the moment, whereas before it was industrial. There are only a few people who have access to the way it is done, or so I thought. Anyway I will not be open sourcing it until all is ready with the bugs sorted out, all this takes time and money.

The other thing is, as has been pointed out, this type of tech: would remap the world.

Regards

Mike (Centraflow Systems)

P.S. I will not be posting again on this thread

[tutanka]

afs process and different solution

Hello.. Here is semplified AFS process diagram.. they extract CO2 from air with special membranes , after CO2 is sended inside reactor and is processed with hydrogen produced from standard electrolisys (fuel cell). Surely they use photons and catalyst (heated) inside reactor producing synthetic vapour hydrocarbon molecule that is condensed into liquid in other stage. Process is clearly too complicated and not OU.. Another more simple, low cost and more efficient process is use wood block for methane creation trough an little reactor that use every water as main component; you can use this syntho-methane gas for cooking, electrical generators, heaters and why not.. your car

[Michael John Nunnerley]

things begining to surface from all over

I was not going to post again on this thread, but I think it just might be a good idea to use this thread as a place to post things like THIS


Navy aims to turn seawater into jet fuel - FutureTech on NBCNews.com

I have posted before on this forum, I think it was last year, it was after I made a trip to the USA, of the US navy making jet fuel from sea water and air. This was inside information, like a slip of the tongue, from one of the people I was with in the US.

Mike not so

[tutanka]

I was not going to post again on this thread, but I think it just might be a good idea to use this thread as a place to post things like THIS


Navy aims to turn seawater into jet fuel - FutureTech on NBCNews.com

I have posted before on this forum, I think it was last year, it was after I made a trip to the USA, of the US navy making jet fuel from sea water and air. This was inside information, like a slip of the tongue, from one of the people I was with in the US.

Mike not so

Actually main problem of synthetic fuels is the cost of production..

Extract from article posted from you:


“The technology may be ready for testing at sea in 8 to 10 years, depending on funding,” Willauer noted.

Another renewable energy effort already underway at the Navy involving the use of drop-in biofuels to help gain energy independence has met strong political resistance, especially because the experimental fuels cost $27 per gallon to produce.

At $3 to $6 per gallon, perhaps turning seawater into jet fuel is more politically salable. Time will tell. "


Need 8-10 years for obtain good units and technology.... why wait these years when now you can use wood block and obtain synthetic methane with lower energy spent and have an overunity device? Im not referring to syngas but to methane and oxygen.

[ibpointless2]

It seems its getting more popular. Gas Made from Air and Water! - YouTube

[tutanka]

It seems its getting more popular. Gas Made from Air and Water! - YouTube

They extract CO2 from air and mix with hydrogen extracted from water..
They spent some energy into the process and isn't more efficient because don't produce more fuel .. but sorry CO2 , water vapour and nitrogen (to high temperature) don't are present into exaust gas of our car?? Actually we sent in athmosphere these molecules for free but maybe tomorrow we find out that it was possible to create new fuel
Law of conservation of energy wrote: "Energy can neither be created nor it is destroyed, however energy can be converted from one form energy to any other form of energy"

Our scientists know the real meaning of this law?

Need to think about.. maybe we can obtain --> 4 CO2 + 10 H2O + 2 N2 = 4 CH3NH2 + 9 O2

[ibpointless2]

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't gasoline C8H18? 8 carbons and 18 hydrogen's? Why aren't we able to mix some of this and little of this to make the C8H18? My soup has a more complex assortment of molecules than gas so why is it so hard to make gas and so easy to make soup?

[tachyoncatcher]

Let's see, a sub that never has to surface. Unlimited fuel for its engines... I don't think any government with this technology would let ANY media broadcast such tech without fud to confuse the issue. To speak of such technology without full disclosure and working models is to put a target on ones back. It is wise to stay in light of hearsay for ones wellbeing.
Isn't it funny how earth changing tech SEEMS to come to the surface from multiple sources at nearly the same time? It's like the universe has decided mankind is ready. I suspect it's more like mans need to share and build legacy, drives the need to speak of their inspiration and innovations to the point of broadcast before the time is right. Thus leading to a burial of great equalizing tech for a future date. Just ask Tesla. Oops! Wrong century. Some things never change.
Randy

[tutanka]

Let's see, a sub that never has to surface. Unlimited fuel for its engines... I don't think any government with this technology would let ANY media broadcast such tech without fud to confuse the issue. To speak of such technology without full disclosure and working models is to put a target on ones back. It is wise to stay in light of hearsay for ones wellbeing.
Isn't it funny how earth changing tech SEEMS to come to the surface from multiple sources at nearly the same time? It's like the universe has decided mankind is ready. I suspect it's more like mans need to share and build legacy, drives the need to speak of their inspiration and innovations to the point of broadcast before the time is right. Thus leading to a burial of great equalizing tech for a future date. Just ask Tesla. Oops! Wrong century. Some things never change.
Randy

As Leonardo da Vinci wrote:

"The experience is the mother of all certainty"

Who argued that only through 'experience could come to an understanding, the "universal" is the observation of facts which brings the man to the knowledge.

[tutanka]

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't gasoline C8H18? 8 carbons and 18 hydrogen's? Why aren't we able to mix some of this and little of this to make the C8H18? My soup has a more complex assortment of molecules than gas so why is it so hard to make gas and so easy to make soup?

We start from initial energy CH818 (and air) and we obtain CO2,H2O,N2 from our car catalyst.. that is just chemistry; but for the law of conservation is every energy in other form. In this way for the same law, you can transform CO2,H2O,N2 in subsequent energy , to the end you can obtain an Loop energy form. The reverse formula 4 CO2 + 10 H2O + 2 N2 = 4 CH3NH2 + 9 O2 is clear. From CO2+H2O+N2 you can obtain methylamine and oxygen and when burn you obtain the initial molecules. For obtain that reaction you need just another catalyst and at the end you obtain an Loop of energy. New fuel from (heated) exaust gas of your car!!

[wings]

why not

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