Stan Meyer Bifilar Chokes

[Aaron]

The chokes, power coils, etc.. in Meyer's circuits seemed to have always been very confusing to many people. More people today are understanding how the chokes were designed by simply reading the tech brief that has been under all our noses the whole time.

Several people in the The H2earth Institute - A Virtual Center of Excellence in Waterfuel Technology such as Josh and others are looking at this very closely. I was surprised to find so many ideas about how the chokes are designed considering the fact that the text descriptions and diagrams in the WFC tech brief are very, very clear.

Upon further examination, these are my comments, which may be right or wrong, I don't know but they make sense to me

Here is the tech brief on the wfc by Meyer:

http://www.esmhome.org/library/stan-meyer/stan-meyer-water-fuel-cell-technical-brief.pdf

[Aaron]

youtube vid on Meyer's bifilar chokes

http://www.youtube.com/v/ozpRNpM6FqM

[opmeyer]

where can I buy an I core made of river haemetite? Apparently that is what Meyer used, I read that online somewhere. Havnt finished reading the tech brief. I have to read it very slowly.

It looks like the transformer coils should be wound on the same core also. Is this to do with maintaining the same pulse in the magnetic fields?

[Aaron]

core material

not sure of core source

if power coils wound on same core that means when that is off/on the magnetic field in core can also contribute to the bifilar resonant coils in addition to the the actual voltage potential over wires affecting chokes.

Is that desireable? I don't know at this time.

[adam ant]

Aaron, have you experimented with different cores as far as electromagnets go? i was thinking about an aluminum or copper tube core would force more of the electromagnetism outwards, instead of absorb it like steel would naturally do.

[Aaron]

core material

Yes and any non-ferrous metal like aluminum and copper for a core will create "eddy current" counter current drag and will slow down the frequency and will probably create a lot of heat. air, iron, magnetite, those are all good ones.

[adam ant]

ok, thats twice you taught me something in the same day... one more left


thank you, probably saved me countless hours of testing hahahaha

[Aaron]

core material

LOL! There are some pretty exotic core materials like metglas and so forth but not practical because ridiculous pricing and so forth. For the Bedini coils, I've always used bundled steel welding rod. Much more efficient than solid core.

[jerdee]

More effecient Bedini coils.

Aaron,

Tesla would increase his inductance by connecting ends of bifilar or multi-coils in series. Have you tried this? This would further decrease current flow allowing only potential. This allows more effecient use of the same amount magnet wire to build a stronger magnetic field.

Here is a link for those of you that need simple explanation.

Bifilar Electromagnet

If you notice also in the beginning of the FEG book of Bedini ('84), you see the energizer coils in series. My thought is this increases capacity as well as significant potential to be released. With this in mind, make 10-3B as a quadfilar. Two or more strands opposing two or more strands with each opposing pairs in series.

Just a thought…

Jeremy

[Aaron]

Bifilar Comparison

Hi Jeremy,

I did this test last night so here is a comparison based on hands on real experiment. The one on left side gave almost twice the voltage pulse at the cap than the right one.

[passion1]

Hi Aaron

Thanks for the feedback!
I am having difficulty to convert your drawing to the correct physical implementation.
Is the configuration on the left wired as shown in "Fig 10-3B VIC Bifilar wrap ass" posted a little higher on this page, or is Fig 10-3B the configuration on the right hand side?
In other words, is Fig 10-3B the way it should we wired for the highest voltage spike?
If not, how should Fig 10-3B be modified to represent the left setup above?

[Mario]

Hi Jeremy,

I've just tried that little bifilar experiment as shown in the link but I get the exact same field strenght on both coils, driving at the same voltage and current.
Have you tried it? I also did a quick test on the Bedini SS, I had two power strands on one transistor, so I tried connecting the top (end) of one strand to the bottom of the other one, basically if they were parallel in the beginning now they were in series. I got a much higher voltage but the freq was way lower. But the charging rate was the same for both the setups.
I think what Aaron did can't be compared to the bifilar in your example as he has his load in between the two coils, that's probably why he had success. Before they were cancelling, now with one side inverted they add up. Correct me if I'm wrong Aaron.

best regards

Mario

[Aaron]

physical pic

Hi Passion1,

here is a literal pic of what is represented in the left side of the comparison pic.



also to note the bifilar capacitance should be more than the wfc...so big bifilar chokes. but to experiement with concept can use any bifilar to see the left does give voltage boost.

[jerdee]

I've just tried that little bifilar experiment as shown in the link but I get the exact same field strenght on both coils, driving at the same voltage and current.

Have you tried it? I also did a quick test on the Bedini SS, I had two power strands on one transistor, so I tried connecting the top (end) of one strand to the bottom of the other one, basically if they were parallel in the beginning now they were in series. I got a much higher voltage but the freq was way lower. But the charging rate was the same for both the setups.
Mario

I just did the same experiment this afternoon. I used one strand and two in series for blocking oscillation…along with two in series for power strands. In both cases, the oscillation was slower. This is not the best way to configure multicoils for the SS.

What’s interesting …is the aligned fields of the Bifilar w/ wfc load in between creates a larger compressed potential of the LEM wave. When cathode is properly insulated or conditioned this should further the compressed potential LEM wave. This will cause a larger imbalance allowing the vacuum to interact freely. I have a strong feeling that the Lawton circuit should use a Bifilar or more coils instead of two independent inductors. I may be wrong. But from what I gather from Aaron’s experiment, the field must be aligned. The D12.pdf does not show this! Also, the Lawton circuit does not pick off the electrons furthering the imbalanced high-energy state of the atomic atom. We are only seeing on half of the picture here.

[Aaron]

bifilar

Jerdee,

I see a lot of "open source" projects that are anything but open source. Everyone seems to continually keep bits and pieces to themselves.

Meyer went from individual inductors to bifilar on same core.

Definitely a stronger gradient created here.