Bedini 10-coil

[scratchrobot]

I found that components work on smoke, "you let the smoke out" and they don't work no more.

Bit's

Never heard that one before But yes the smoke has to stay inside

scratchrobot

[albertMunich]

I also think that if you blow one or more transistors on the ten coil machine it is difficult to repair. I pulled my hair out when I fried the 3 coiler with an open output.
So better be safe than sorry.

[TeslaTech]

Hi,
I have run and still run my 3 coil machine with 36 volts on the input and several big batteries in parallel 12 volts on the output. Nothing gets hot, the transistors and everything else /except the potentiometer!/ stay cold. 3 Amps in. Makes one amp per coil.
BUT: There might be a negative effect on smaller batteries. If you don't have BIG batts on the output, the plates will suffer from the "slamming" they get from the high voltage. This can go beyond 700 volts.
On the 10 coiler the safe way might indeed be to have the same voltages in and out.
TeslaTech you are talking about EUROS- does that mean you are in Europe and have received the Friedrich kit? Then I'd like to know how high the shipping costs were and if everything arrived well. How was your communication with RF?

I'm in Germany and the distances and shipping costs are a bit daunting to me.



Here's an image of my machine running seven LED spotlights from a single recovery coil.the coil is in the 14 h position on the machine and not connected to the rest of the circuitry.

Hi AlbertMunich,

after 4 month of waiting, finally the kit arrived in the german customs (near munich). The customs cost me over 500 Euros!!! only to get my packets...
and one amp-meter that i additionally orderd was broken.
The next problems that the threads in the plexiglas was not deep enough threaded and my research partner bought an inch threader to rework the whole threads.
The next problems was that the spools was wound in the wrong direction.
The rods were not coated, also the rods were a little piece too long and the caps from the coil holder made problems, so we cut them away.
Some plastic screws were missed, but rick send the missing parts very quickly to us.
But if we have technical or other questions we were completly lost, rick dont answering email if they dont have something do to with missing parts in the kit. So for example emails with technical questions will be not answered. I've heard that rick get too much emails....
We spend month of research to get the 10 coiler finally up and running.
We conditioning batteries right now the whole time and recognized that the scrappy batteries are behave better. We have reached a standing voltage after four hours of around 13,20 Volts! so the capacity of the batteries exceed the state if they were new!!
But we are not Bedini specialized we are coming from the corner of cold fusion. We have build a cold fusion reactor and attached it to our house for
heating. The reactor needs around 350 Watt and gives you 2500Watt of hot water. This is still in developing and we try to lower the input power.
We want to get our house self-reliant with power and heating.
Albert, do you speaking german? If yes, you are welcome to our new forum for german speaking people teslatech-de , sometimes it is easier to talk
in mother tongue with each other.

Greets

[albertMunich]

Hello,
I sent you a message with my address- we should meet eye to eye since I am also close to Munich.
The coils were wound the wrong way? Could you not have simply changed poles on the PCB?
I never coated the core rods on my machines. No need to do so since eddy currents are not important in this system.

[Mark]

How it going Bits

Haven't heard any reports from you in a few days and wondering if you have any good news to share.

Thanks buddy, Mark

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

How it going Bits

Haven't heard any reports from you in a few days and wondering if you have any good news to share.

Thanks buddy, Mark

It's going good. Just finished my inverter with the exception of the MJL's. They should be here next week. Been real busy with Rick and John's stuff so haven't had much time to play.

Jeff

[John_K]

@ Bit's

It's going good. Just finished my inverter with the exception of the MJL's. They should be here next week. Been real busy with Rick and John's stuff so haven't had much time to play.

Jeff

Hi Bit's,

I sent you a PM...


John K.

[Joit]

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Personally, I wouldn't bother with more than 125%-150% on the input compared to the output, when charging batteries.


Regards

Yes, that is something where i stay with too, about 150% more input usual to be at the save side.
I think also, that you can run it with more Input, but it still allways depends,
how much Watts you create at the Charge.
Some small Batteries been faster damaged, when i had to much Input, ie. 10x more,
it may depends how solid they are build.


And well, yesterday i did blow my Transistor as i connected the thin Wire from a HV Transformer with a load to the primary over the Diode. I think it was the Diode at the Transistor what did blow, and not sure,
why this did happen, maybe i did come over the Specs from the Transistor, what is 60V,
and thats why Rick mention, it will blow it.

[albertMunich]

I have finally laid my eyes on a ten coiler- it turned out that TeslaTech and I only live a few miles from each other.....a few questions have turned up.

I would like to know more about the gap between the coils and the rotor on the 10 coil Rick Friedrich machine. It has neo magnets on it- and yet you have all the coils very close to the rotor- does this influence the trigger or the setup of the machine? did any one try to advance the timing on the master coil to get torque out of the rotor? What are your rotor speeds @ different voltages?
The most amazing thing to me was that you can FEEL the force field around the coils on this advanced machine when its running - its a bit like the "electrostatic" sting one gets from touching a wimshurst machine without the condensers. No sparks-just a sensation in the fingertips. No wonder the coils are literally hissing on JBs big machine. This proves that scaling up indeed makes a difference here. I won't talk about any measurable effects - this is up to the friends who built the thing. Great inspiration to see this " monster" running on the bench!

[Hammad]

Trigger coil

Hi bit's

I have seen the Rick/john video, demonstrating the 10 coiler. In their video, when they were showing the circuit at the back (some sort of music was also being played at the background), In the video, i saw that one of the transistor panels was not connected to the thick red wire. This thing made me think that there are only 9 power coil, and 1 coil is fully devoted for triggering i.e.,
{ 9coils(slave/power coils) + 1coil(master/trigger)} = 10 coiler energizer

That's why, in the video they showed 9 transistor panels connected/soldered to their respective thick red wires (located just above the switches), and the first panel (the left most panel) was left alone. and i thought it was extra, because there were only 9 coils to power and 1 coil on the whole was used only and only for triggering.
So to power 9 coils so 9 transistor panels were necessary and one (left most) panel was extra. (plz see the picture on the my next post, it will make u clear what i am trying to say)

But when i saw the picture of the transistor panels on ur motor, each and every row of transistors panel was engaged with copper wires (not connected though). from this, it seems that the trigger coil (or master coil) must have 9 filer wire, 8 for power, and out of 9 strands, one strand of coil was firing all 80 transistor? i mean that the trigger coil is not wholly Solly devoted for triggering? am i right? which is statement is correct, this or the above?

1:kindly please explain me about the number of wires per coil, and how is the triggering achieved?

2:And are the transistors used in Rick's motor are MJL2119?

3:what is the value of triggering series resistances and their wattage?

Thanks alllllot.

[Hammad]

Hi Bit's

Hi

plz see the picture that i have uploaded, yellow circle shows the missing wire(which is confusing me) rest of the nine red dots that i made in the picture, is to show the connected wires.

so plz tell me which coil do the triggering?

one of the coils is fully used for triggering or all coils are participating in their own respective triggering?

if there is one trigger coil does it have both the trigger and power coils wound on the same bobbin? if so, then how many strands are there in total on that bobbin, and how many of the strands are devoted for triggering only.

The thing that surprises me is that, firing all 80 transistor at once is a too much load for single strand trigger coil, so no transistor will go to perfect switching mode (saturation state). so plz me it clear.

Sorry for taking so much of ur time. If any one else who knows my answer, plz reply, i have seen that the Plasma dude have also purchased on of Rick's 10 coil, so he can help me out too.


Finally, what would you people who have bought Rick's 10 coiler suggest me, should I buy it? is it worth spending any money, because I have not see any concrete evidence that I can fully power my home with it. b/c u guys are barely managing it to get close to cop=1 + allot of modifications, how would it power a house then? plz dont take it negative. I am not discouraging any body out there, u guys are doing really really great. I am counting on bit's and Plasma, if they come up with great cop then all our efforts will not go wasted.

So ur suggestion for me would be.......should I buy one?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi

plz see the picture that i have uploaded, yellow circle shows the missing wire(which is confusing me) rest of the nine red dots that i made in the picture, is to show the connected wires. This also should be connected like the 9 other

so plz tell me which coil do the triggering?In the bottom most coil you have 8 individual strands(as you do in all of the coils). Take ONE of the strands and hook one end to ground, the other to the pot, then light, then anyone of the switchesfor the trigger circuit (typical Bedini fashion)

one of the coils is fully used for triggering or all coils are participating in their own respective triggering?

if there is one trigger coil does it have both the trigger and power coils wound on the same bobbin? if so, then how many strands are there in total on that bobbin, and how many of the strands are devoted for triggering only.

The thing that surprises me is that, firing all 80 transistor at once is a too much load for single strand trigger coil, so no transistor will go to perfect switching mode (saturation state). so plz me it clear.You need to read more on the SG circuit to understand the switching

Sorry for taking so much of ur time. If any one else who knows my answer, plz reply, i have seen that the Plasma dude have also purchased on of Rick's 10 coil, so he can help me out too.


Finally, what would you people who have bought Rick's 10 coiler suggest me, should I buy it? is it worth spending any money, because I have not see any concrete evidence that I can fully power my home with it. b/c u guys are barely managing it to get close to cop=1 + allot of modifications, how would it power a house then? plz dont take it negative. I am not discouraging any body out there, u guys are doing really really great. I am counting on bit's and Plasma, if they come up with great cop then all our efforts will not go wasted.

So ur suggestion for me would be.......should I buy one?

That is totally up to you to buying one, but you'll not find any better in the progression of unlocking the possibilties of free energy.

Bit's

[Plazma]

'Plazma Dude' sez . . .

Pay close attention to what Bits has said (I echo his sentiments) and glean as much as you can from the posts on this forum going forward as well as do more research. Then, you will have what you need to make an informed decision if the 10-coiler is something you should purchase. That is, be patient and watch.

At present I am finishing up my lab having slaved away on construction these past few weeks in 100 deg heat and, (wonders never cease) THE ROOF DOESN'T LEAK!!! (hoooray - we got a good rain last night - the litmus test for da roof ). I'm a few days away from starting on the 10-coiler, but I will get there.

Best Wishes,

Plazma

[Hammad]

About the coil connection

Hi, thanks for reply.

My dear i am an electrical engineer, and I am Lecturer at my university. I know exactly how switching is performed. I just asked u the configuration of the trigger and power coils. I know any of the configuration would have had worked, but I want to know exactly what was the approach that Rick used to trigger his coils.

I am into Bedini motor for 3 years now. But due to my busy schedule, i cannot devote too much of the time making a lot of Bedini motors. though I have made few using cpu fans, but they are so tiny to have any pronounced effect of cop close to 1. Even right now, one of the fans is charging my gasoline generator's starter battery.

Form ur kind reply, I conclude that there is one strand (for triggering all transistors), that can be taken from any one of the 8 filer coils. And by using bulb and resistors (in series, just shown in the picture I uploaded, only the switches are missing), we supply triggering to all 80 transistor (79 to be exact). And to select which of the coils should be made online, we use switches and supply the triggering pulse. Am I right?

For clarification to what I just said, plz see the circuit diagram (though it is not exact, i am using this picture just to show u the power/trigger coil configuration, rest of that motor/energizer is a bit different form 10 coiler as it uses SCR, capacitors etc.), I made a yellow rectangular box around circuit, showing 1 trigger + 4 filer power coil, but here trigger coil is not one of the power coils, but it is an extra one, wound over the normal 4 filer coil. That's why i asked u if the master coil had 9 wires (instead of 8)

But if u take one wire for triggering(from any one of 10 coils), then that particular coil should have left 7 coils as power coil, and for switching that 7 filer coil (as 8th wire is devoted for triggering/switching) u need 7 MJLs, so total number of transistors responsible for driving the motor would be:

7+8+8+8+8+8+8+8+8+8 = 79 transistor? correct? plz bit's and plazma, inform me about. also there is a tone of material that i want to know, i it wrote ahead, on next psots, it is the same question though, put in a different way. Bit's ur answer was good, but i still have little confusion left. plz make it clear

Plz don't get frustrated. Once i get my answer, I won't bother u guys. Just will silently read your posts.

Again thanks allot for your reply

[Hammad]

About coil

or is it that, from all the coils, 1 strand is taken from each 8 filer coils. And each coil is responsible for switching their respective transistor panel? in that case the total number of transistors responsible for running the motor would be 70.(as 1 coil from each 8 filer is engaged for triggering)