strange effects in the components of bedini's chargers : cap, battery, transistors...

[nanotube]

http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sa...Discharge1.jpg here an arc in acrylic plastic
http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sa...Sq/Square1.jpg here we can see bigger tubes than nano because high energy tesla coil since long time..
There is various forms of arc, The Turn Of The Century Electrotherapy Museum (C) Jeff Behary 2007 -Thomas Burton Kinraide Archives - 22 x 28 Prints from the collection of Steve and Pamela here glass treated with kinraid coil
and we can see what if a coil have good vortex effect (spiral, kinraid coil) the tubes printed have more branch of trees. we can see that too in the of rodin's coil field

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/magvtx.htm

[nanotube]

[nanotube]

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Perhaps you will have any ideas about all that, and i will be happy for that.... if you work for peace on planet !

That's all for today, I have make a part of work without have spent some years in scientist's schools, we can all clear our mind and catch informations from the scalar field!

i am 25 years old since one month, i have no lab, no scop, spectrometer or LCRmeters, i don't like too much electronic... i prefer the simplicity of plasma opening switchs, and don't want spent dozens of years to search the rights components..
So, if you can help me for something , if i have ONE question : A VERY LITTLE QUESTION with a VERY LITTLE ANSWER..... this is :

WHAT IS THE DIVIN LIGH BULB WICH CAN MAKE THE PERFECT LOW VOLTAGE SWITCH ???? (something like 25V/high current, short pulsetime at high frequency)

and i'll give you a REAL REAL GREAT THANKS !!!!!!!!!
pleeeeaase ! just a little word .... my email is [email protected]

So, have a good fun,
i am open to all constructives critics.

this thread is for all strange effects in components of bedini's chargers SS or SG.

[Bodkins]

Hi nano I would like to you and thank you from your insite and links.
I Love your understanding but have no useful comment for you sorry!
But saying that it was a great read
Take Care
Bx

[nanotube]

Thanks Bodkins !

Hello Bodkins and thanks for your welcome !
i hope my english is not too bad !

In fact this thread is more for strange effects AND tuning/choice of bedini's chargers components...

i want to speak more about voltage amplification in a discharge regarding the "electron cascad effect" in the dielectric/medium, an other effect : in french the name is the "plasmon effect" and make the parallel with metamaterials.

when a discharge occur in a capacitor (like a tesla [gray] tube) the dielectric/medium is since a quick time "polarised" and an amplification occur by electron cascad effect between the plates, an electron pass through the dielectric/medium and carry others electrons from the vacuum, each electrons form the vacuum carry others electrons in a cascade : this is like send a music note "DO" and recept at the terminal plate the resonant song of the universe OOOM, wich has much much much more notes in.

This amplification occur in the same way in a nanotube... that's my opinion !

you have no more energy at the output but much usefull in a load, because you have the good song wich resonate with all loads... in fact we spoke about current, but not of QUALITY / STATE of currents, i think the new way of free energy is not the old paradigm "quantity of current" but quality.

the plasmon effect is the same way, it gives the same understanding of the phenomenon, when the first plate of capacitor receive the pulse (or any energy:light,hot...) the energy is manifested by a plasma of charges positive and negatives wich oscilates on the plate, each electronic charge on the plate have his own counter-charge behind the plate and are both reversed in the oscilations of this plasma """"""statics""""" charge (there is nothing static here no ?!)

can you see that ? you send the pulse and you have a plasma beam of charged electronics particles freely oscilating on each sides of the plate like waves...

So, another effect occur, this is the "spash effect" on the others plates of capacitor : the plasma beam is splashed on the second capacitor plate by the energy pulse, and the charged particles are multiplied as "quantic electron, or virtual electron" ... we can see the plates capacitor as multiples mirrors (of both sides) you look your image in the first mirror and your image is reflected behind the mirror and in the same time from you... so with multiples mirrors at the the last plate of the cap, you've got an infinity or your image.... this virtual energy can be used for "quantic discharges" !

--- Scientists discovered this efffect in some materials and give the name "metamaterials" as quantic materials.

i think all these effects occurs in the capacitor of bedini's discharge cap.

thanks to all,
nanotube

[amigo]

Welcome nanotube to our little oasis of insanity.

You present some interesting ideas and I will definitely go back and re-read your posts again.

Your English is fairly good though I still have to put it all in context, but don't worry the more you write the better you get. Too bad I don't speak French else it would probably be easier to communicate.

So what did you mean by this?

WHAT IS THE DIVIN LIGH BULB WICH CAN MAKE THE PERFECT LOW VOLTAGE SWITCH ???? (something like 25V/high current, short pulsetime at high frequency)

Are you looking for something that will switch fast at low trigger voltage with high currents?

---Some Russian scientists polarise their transistor by ONE high voltage pulse through a HV silicone transistor to print the dielectric with nanotubes; that's give to them a better sharp pulse for nanoseconde pulse generation and higher frequency switch ...(you can search on this, they've got a website, try with "nanoseconde pulse generation + polarised transistor " or something like that ).

Could you please provide a direct link to this, I am not having much luck with google tonight...

[Altair]

Salut Marc,

great ideas you've got there. Quite intense posts which will necessitate another reading (or two).

I agree with your capacitor ideas.
I always wondered why the experimenters at the beginning of the century seemed to have no problem getting effects with their simple equipment, while we struggle to find the smallest overunity gains. Maybe it was just the fact that the construction of their capacitors was totally different than what we use now.
Maybe the physically large flat plate capacitor has indeed properties that allow it to interact easier with aether.

Anyway I'd like to help you with your "divin light bulb" but can't understand what you mean...

Keep posting, we need fresh new outlooks on technology. And don't feel bad because of the low response to your posts, it's always like that when you blow people's minds
Just give them some time to absorb

Guy

[Vortex]

nanotube, I understand where you are coming from, generally.
I've been coming across a lot of stuff that backs up what you say is "there" and is "possible".
As I was reading your post, I was finding in my mind previous things I had read which make what you say ring true.
There isn't a 1,2,3 how-to instruction booklet to be found. Most of it is really focused on a very narrow "this" aspect or narrow "that" aspect and isn't bringing it all together like you have been talking about.

Most of the things I've read are not within my reach right now for posting.
I am unable bring together, due to a lack of a more detailed understanding and express it as you have done.
Thus did not save most of the information that would support what you are saying that I have read.
I hope I can will be able to back up your words with documentation in the future so others with realize this
isn't pie-in-sky words you are speaking, but scientific fact ...
Well, experimental fact, at least..
I don't care what they call it: Voo-Doo, witch-craft or BS ..
I only care about the results.
Let us all not get HUNG up on the words and make new words if we have to.

I was going to tell Bodkins about you, but I see he beat me here.

Stick around
Randy

[nanotube]

the divin light bulb and more links

Thanks for your answers,

i will give more links soon...i have no time for that now !
and i must first answer to Amigo :

-QUEST about my "divin light bulb" : something that will switch fast at low trigger voltage with high currents ?

YES , this is that : low voltage, short/sharp pulse of high wattage, with high frequency the faster the better.
In fact there is many ways to switch current without transistor: spark gap or plasma opening switch (POS), for exemple Mr bedini use a neon bulb (NE2)
60V / 0,01A to switch a signal for the SCR (this is a POS), but me i don't want to just trigger a signal 0,01A... i need more amperage !

Mr Bedini knows what is the right bulb wich make the right switch for each battery... AAaaaah, it's a dream...

no ideas ?

[amigo]

@nanotube,

souds like you could use a Thyratron tube as that will give you very fast switching (even ms) at high currents. We are talking here 100A and 2500V on the Anode, in 10ms triggering.

Unfortunatelly the best tubes (with high amps, ms switching) are regulated commodity in North America - military use only, thus getting one might be difficult, but nothing is impossible if you are outside the "paranoid" zone (North America).

Another option is a triggered spark gap - yet again forbidden for public use item, if they go over 500A, 2000V, <1ms triggering.

I swear this continent is all ****ed up...but I'll guess you are not living here so there still might be hope to get those items.

[baroutologos]

Hi,

I want to know from someone with experience in the electronics field about capacitor charging.

How a capacitor is really charged? With pure amperage, provided the voltage will "push" it through the capacitor or somehow else?

My experience with charging caps off an passive generator coil mounted at the rotor of my SSG is the following:

My top "energizer" passive coil (29awg 340 ohms) outputs some 100 Vac at 100 hz magnet frequency. When shorted it tops 20 mA current circulating through it.
When applied a load like a 10KoHm resistor it outputs 8mA AC current. Some 0.6 watts.
When trying to light a bulb - of course - it does not light since its amperage rating is far more (even the 6volt 50ma bulb)
................................

Now the funny part. When i charge a capacitor (2500 uf) at 60 volts it takes some 12sec.
Then, in turn the cap could - not done yet - in a properly arrangemet to light the bulb for some 10-15 secs. That means the coil can SUSTAIN the bulb lit via a capacitor.
When trying a step-down transformer loses are huge and the bulb is barely lit

...............................
My question again.

Does the CAP charge with current? With voltage? A combo of them? How can 20mA@ 100 volt be transmuted in a cap to higher amperage lower voltage? Does a cap, actually behaves as an efficient step down transformer?

Enlighten me pls

Regards,
Baroutologos

[nanotube]

Radiant energy charging cap

Dear guys,

baroutologos
In the FEG (free energy generation book) Bedini and Bearden teach that a capacitor (or a battery) charged with radiant energy charge 50 time faster than conventional (positive) energy, that's because the outpout of the energiser is (like) a "signal" wich force radiant energy to flow directly from the vacuum into the cap.
So the charging of a cap in radiant energy mode is very different... we can't mesure radiant energy in terms of voltage/amperage...
A cap can be used as step down transformer in pulsed mode if the input is sufficiantly short to not fully charge the cap.... but with radiant energy i think it's not possible to have permanently the same voltage on the cap because radiant energy enter directly in your cap from the vacuum and vary at each pulse : sometimes very strongly... another time less, depends daytime or nightime... in FEG book they say that a 160V in daytime could be +300V in midnight.

amigo
a thyratron is used in many pulsed motors but there is better.
mS i long... depends what you want, a rotative spark gap can achive even shorter with higher voltages... But my question is for low voltages as well as 24 to 50V, what bulbs can switch this voltage without triggering it ?

thanks to read,
Nano