Bedini SG

[sinergicus]

about advanced sg circuit

Hi please help me with an advice.In the picture what I put in attachement
the circuit have 2 caps about I dont, know some characteristics what they have.

Cap 1 marked with red what value have ( microfarads and voltage rating)?
And about nr 2 ,I want to know the voltage ratings for this.

If somebody know please answer to this questions

Thanks

[Sephiroth]

Hi please help me with an advice.In the picture what I put in attachement
the circuit have 2 caps about I dont, know some characteristics what they have.

Cap 1 marked with red what value have ( microfarads and voltage rating)?
And about nr 2 ,I want to know the voltage ratings for this.

If somebody know please answer to this questions

Thanks

Cap 2 says it is a 2.2uf capacitor. Since it is running off a 12v system, look for anything over 16v just to be safe

and cap 1 looks like a battery That's weird... why would there be a battery there??? and if it is hooked up with the polarity shown then it will be shorted out in series with the primary battery It would make sense to have a larger electrolytic capacitor where the battery is marked to smooth out the voltage input to the 555 circuit...

Is this an error or have I missed something????

Here is a better image pulled from John's website...

[Sephiroth]

ah... ok... confusing, but it looks like he is using that symbol for a capacitor

I would go for a 100uf cap where cap 1 is... again anything over 16v should be fine.

[Web000x]

Battery Swapping

Okay, I know this question has been answered by John Bedini, but I am confused because I see conflicting setups all over the internet. JB states in the "Energy From the Vacuum" Radiant energy video that the batteries in a SG circuit cannot be flipped back and forth for charge and discharge cycles. I purchased Rick Fredrick's 6" Bedini Motor kit and it came with a DPDT switch for swapping the batteries around. I have read some of Rick's posts which lead me to believe that he has done his homework. However, JB says convert the negative energy from the charging battery with a power inverter to charge the primary battery. What gives?

[blackchisel97]

Web000x @ Battery Swapping

Battery can be charged with either negative or positive. However, you can use negatively charged battery to power other loads but you cannot use it to power SSG. To make swapping batteries possible, negative energy has to be first converted into positive. Capacitor seems to do the job allowing swapping back to front. I do this with my setup, which is J.B's as well and very similar to the one posted here with exception that it uses 555 IC and self resonating part.
I hope that I answered your question.

Cheers

v

[dambit]

The other simple way to swap the batteries immediately is to run your sg through an inverter. A little less efficient I know, but when charging large batteries it doesn't matter, and for those of us who don't use caps it's the only way to do it without having the batteries sit for hours first.

That reminds me, didn't bedini state that the version of the his chargers that don't use caps is an advancment of the tech? Why are people calling the old cap versions "Advanced SG's"? Perhaps it's because they are far more complicated to setup.

Cheers,

Steve

[glenn_aircooled]

slowly experimenting, here's my latest. The Window coil is not mounted just yet
But it has two coils working.
Glenn.

[nvisser]

Here is a interesting post from Rick Frederick
Yahoo! Groups

[theremart]

Monopole for $3500- $4500

Here is a interesting post from Rick Frederick
Yahoo! Groups

Amazing.... this is quite a new development, I wonder if it will be in kit form?

[theremart]

Inverter

The other simple way to swap the batteries immediately is to run your sg through an inverter. A little less efficient I know, but when charging large batteries it doesn't matter, and for those of us who don't use caps it's the only way to do it without having the batteries sit for hours first.

That reminds me, didn't bedini state that the version of the his chargers that don't use caps is an advancment of the tech? Why are people calling the old cap versions "Advanced SG's"? Perhaps it's because they are far more complicated to setup.

Cheers,

Steve

There were certain instances that Bedini stated that you could use the charged battery at the primary.

1. If the battery was charged from a cap discharge.

2. If the battery was charged from a charging coil I.E. not part of the large spike, but just a coil next to the wheel that was receiving charge.

I myself found the inverter to be a huge tax on the system, and I have been experimenting with much less of a drain. I use some cheap laptop car adapters I have found that run directly off 12 V. They consume far less energy than an inverter, and when I need more power I simply add more circuits. So far they have worked decently for me.

Cheers.

[theremart]

If the capacitor does the majic...

Battery can be charged with either negative or positive. However, you can use negatively charged battery to power other loads but you cannot use it to power SSG. To make swapping batteries possible, negative energy has to be first converted into positive. Capacitor seems to do the job allowing swapping back to front. I do this with my setup, which is J.B's as well and very similar to the one posted here with exception that it uses 555 IC and self resonating part.
I hope that I answered your question.

Cheers

v

If the capacitor does the magic... could one put a cap at the front?

If one charges a battery with negative charge, how do you get rid of the negative charge?

So many questions I have.

[Sephiroth]

If the capacitor does the magic... could one put a cap at the front?

If one charges a battery with negative charge, how do you get rid of the negative charge?

So many questions I have.

I would have thought the energy would need to be converted before it goes to the battery, but that is a good point I wonder if that would work... Though I haven't confirmed that a cap-charged battery can run the SSG better than a directly charged battery.

You probably noticed JB has large capacitors on the front end of his big monopole though I'm pretty sure that is because at high frequency the skin effect will make the cables going to the monopole a far higher impedance than they normally would be... the caps will hide the high frequency from the cables and lower their impedance.

[theremart]

Caps at the front

I would have thought the energy would need to be converted before it goes to the battery, but that is a good point I wonder if that would work... Though I haven't confirmed that a cap-charged battery can run the SSG better than a directly charged battery.

You probably noticed JB has large capacitors on the front end of his big monopole though I'm pretty sure that is because at high frequency the skin effect will make the cables going to the monopole a far higher impedance than they normally would be... the caps will hide the high frequency from the cables and lower their impedance.

What caps at the front have done for me is to seem to act like an energy value at the front. It only allows the system to pull x amount of energy instead of asking the battery for all that it can give. It does seem to make my Bedinis to run longer. I also have a theory that the back emf ( from my wheel bedini's ) seems to fill the cap better than it does the battery. Some may say that there is no back EMF on a Bedini, but in my testing with 2 Bedini's powering a wheel I found if I ran just one of them and looked at the cap voltage at the front on the second it would raise the cap voltage at the primary. This tells me there there indeed is some voltage back feeding to the cap from an SSG when on a wheel setup.

Looks like you are building some monster coils there Seph, on your new web page looks good I have just completed my move and I am so happy I will have some decent solar to play with. Looking at your setup I might suggest one thing with your solid state. If you watch Energy from the vacuum 2 right before the led lights up thru plastic part you get a glimpse of the solid state Bedini that is used to charge the golf cart batteries. If you look, you will notice the coils are not on a spool, but are in the air. I have made my coils like this and have found that far less heat builds up made this way. I have also found that the bigger the wattage the more wire I put on the coil the less heat is generated.

It is nice to be back from my move!

YouTube - Video 71 Arrival at Summerfield, Florida

[Sephiroth]

Nice place Congratulations!

I'm jealous I moved recently as well... to a basement flat... lol, thus "the underground lab"

RE:spool
I saw in one of John's patents that he just tied the coil together with cable ties... the spool made it easier to wind but I could probably tear it apart and still preserve the windings if heat becomes an issue... the "Fat Boy" is definitely a monster coil and at the frequency it is operating at there should be very little heat dissipation from the system... I think I calculated it to be less than 5% but I'll have to go through my notes...

About to upload more photos and a video so watch this space

[nvisser]

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