Bedini Scope Shots

[Zooty]

Thanks By the way, it seems that the charging rate has gone down in this configuration. Looking at the h wave on my normal setup, my field collapse lasts as long as the on time of the coil

[Sephiroth]

Thanks By the way, it seems that the charging rate has gone down in this configuration. Looking at the h wave on my normal setup, my field collapse lasts as long as the on time of the coil

Yes, in most of my tests I found that it usually has a negative effect on charging because the flyback is doing most of the mechanical work instead of the input pulse. Although it can make up for it with the generator effect. Looking at your scope shot there is a strong generator effect on your model.

Remember you have reduced your input which will also reduce your charge rate Your charing COP may be the same.

[Zooty]

I have also realized in the shots i posted, the collapse is dwarfing the next magnet coming in. I just measured my magnet distance and they are about 2 1/4 widths apart.. would that affect performance and describe what i am seeing?

[Sephiroth]

I have also realized in the shots i posted, the collapse is dwarfing the next magnet coming in. I just measured my magnet distance and they are about 2 1/4 widths apart.. would that affect performance and describe what i am seeing?

The flyback (field collapse) in the second scope shot does go past the scalar south, but before field has fully collapsed the induced voltage from the rotor magnets exceeds your charging battery's voltage so starts acting as a generator.

So yes, this is going to put a load on the rotor, but it isn't wasted.

[Zooty]

Thank you for your explanations, you have been a great help

[Zooty]

This is a scope shot across the power coil on the bi filer using the tesla impulse technology circuit on a monopole rotor. The extra spike only appears when i use a battery on input and a low base resistance.. Halfords battery charger and 10,000mf cap shows the same as a normal ssg .. maybe its the difference in voltage, i dont know.. The second image is a close up of the top part of the separate spike. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks

[Sephiroth]

This is a scope shot across the power coil on the bi filer using the tesla impulse technology circuit on a monopole rotor. The extra spike only appears when i use a battery on input and a low base resistance.. Halfords battery charger and 10,000mf cap shows the same as a normal ssg .. maybe its the difference in voltage, i dont know.. The second image is a close up of the top part of the separate spike. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks

The first scope shot is showing the motor double pulsing per magnet pass... I would guess that this is because the supply voltage is lower if nothing about the motor has changed...

Not sure what I am looking at in the second shot... is that one spike stretched out across the whole display?

[Zooty]

yeah, the top part of one spike zoomed in

[Sephiroth]

yeah, the top part of one spike zoomed in

Hi zooty, I'm afraid I have no idea why it looks like that... out of curiousity what speed is your oscilloscope?

I have a question for everyone one now. Does anyone know what this wave is or is from?



(zoomed in a bit)


I don't want to say anything about it at the moment but I'm curious what the response will be. I thought it must be a glitch on the scope, but I'm not so sure...

Aaron, would it be possible to bring it to John's attention?

[Aaron]

scope shots

Seph,

I sent it to John. Not sure if he'll see it soon - he is neck deep in solar
charger testing. I haven't seen him for 2 weeks.

[Sephiroth]

Thanks Aaron

If it isn't a glitch on the scope then it is very interesting.

[Sephiroth]

It has been suggested that my scope shouldn't be on the AC setting. I can confirm the wave is the same on AC or DC. Here is a pic of it on the DC setting but my camera isn't great so you can't make it out very well when it is that small.

[Sephiroth]

Since no one is commenting, I'll let you know what the scope shot is.

It is the voltage across the charging battery terminals.

I noticed this before last year and it only shows up when using very low impedance coils. The scope shots above are from a solid state oscillator with an estimated 58 milliohm coil.

Admittedly, It could be a glitch on the scope.

Here is a comparison of the scope shots from a standard SSG and a different low impedance solid state device I built last year... off the top of my head, I think the coil was around 200 milliohms.



notice that the charging battery voltage goes below the resting voltage. I really want to know if this is a glitch

EDIT : Correction, can't seem to measure accurately for milliohm resistances. The coil is 40 feet of 24 strands of 22SWG in parallel litzed. The theoretical resistance of the coil windings would be approximately 22 milli ohms.

[patmac]

sephiroth

Greate shot, I think second pic show the radiant negative energy effect. look impendance batteries are normally lower than 50 miliohm, but negative energy can acts very different than normal energy dissipation.

I think this effect only is possible using coil impendance aprox = batt impendance.

Good works! Thanks by show us your research....

[Zooty]

Hi Sephiroth, my scope goes up to 10mhz. The second screenshot was at 1mhz. When i zoomed in further it was a sine wave around -4v peeks at the spike voltage.

I was interested in your scope shot, i am also playing with a solid state version. Whats your input voltage and current? How are your charging batteries performing?