Bedini Pendulum

[CaptainScat]

i had always assumed it was a monopole type until i found this diagram, i don't know if it's correct, but it made me think in another direction

[Shamus]

Eureka!

[CaptainScat]

had an epiphany?

[Peter Lindemann]

Real Pendulum Circuit

Hey Guys,

I don't want to burst your bubble 'cause I know you are having fun, but.....

John and I built all three pendulum machines together. I was there. The circuits were test circuits based on John's unique insights into this process. The circuits were John's, but I helped build the frames, pendulums, and coils. I also tested some of these units for weeks.

John has not disclosed the circuits he used so I can't either. I will say that they were similar to SSG circuits, but not exactly the same.

The system sent charge to both the run battery and the charge battery. I ran several tests where the run battery did not discharge AT ALL over a 4 day run. The charge batteries LOOKED LIKE they were charging very rapidly. The problem with the system was that the circuit returned ALL of the electron current to the run battery and sent pure Radiant Energy to the charge battery. After a while, the charge batteries all DIED!!!!!

This helped prove Bearden's Theory that you need at least A FEW electrons in the system. Pure Radiant Energy does NOT charge batteries. All of Tesla's circuits show Radiant Energy lighting light bulbs and running motors, but NEVER charging batteries. Now we know why.

The circuits are very counter-intuitive and you will never figure it out by guessing. The biggest energy effects came from the smallest unit. It was impossible to determine the energy gain in the system because it changed with the load impedance. In the end, the Pendulums proved Tesla's electricity fractionation process is real, since we were able to continually produce Radiant Energy impulses from a battery system that did not deplete. But nothing practical was ever demonstrated. As a battery charger, it was a failure. However, as a test apparatus, it taught us things about Radiant Energy that we had only been able to guess about before.

The pendulum test set-up for the magnetic gate is not related to the later work on the electric pendulums.

Peter

[elias]

Peter,

You mean that you were charging the batteries with absolutely no current? Can you tell us about how much normal electron current has been proven experimentally to be an optimum value for charging batteries?

It seems that pure aether or pure electron flow are both not so healthy for the batteries and there must be an optimum ratio.

And also I was wanting to know what the exact purpose of the magnets on Bedini's Motors/Energizers is aside of the fact that they make the oscillation possible? Oscillation is easier to achieve in solid state rather than mechanical.
I mean do the magnets have anything to do with inducing aetheric flow in the coils?

Thanks

[Jetijs]

Elias,
I think that the magnets are there to make some useful mechanical work out of these oscilations.

[elias]

Elias,
I think that the magnets are there to make some useful mechanical work out of these oscilations.

I think that way too. But maybe there is some other purpose to them.
Let's see what Peter has to say.

[Shamus]

Thank you for that Peter. You have explained more in that message than I ever got from any other source, Mr. Friedrich included.

I do have a question though. Why was the pendulum included in the EFTV2 film, especially if it kills batteries? The conclusions one is left to draw from the presentation of the pendulum in that film are misleading.

[Peter Lindemann]

More Details....

Peter,

You mean that you were charging the batteries with absolutely no current? Can you tell us about how much normal electron current has been proven experimentally to be an optimum value for charging batteries?

It seems that pure aether or pure electron flow are both not so healthy for the batteries and there must be an optimum ratio.

And also I was wanting to know what the exact purpose of the magnets on Bedini's Motors/Energizers is aside of the fact that they make the oscillation possible? Oscillation is easier to achieve in solid state rather than mechanical.
I mean do the magnets have anything to do with inducing aetheric flow in the coils?

Thanks

Elias,

We were TRYING to charge batteries with zero electron current! But it doesn't work. At first, it LOOKS LIKE the batteries are charging, but something happens to the battery over time that disrupts its function.

The "optimum ratio" of Radiant and electron flow is not known, since we can't quantify the Radiant fraction.

The purpose of the magnets in an SSG... Good question!

John has always resisted the idea that the SSG is an electric motor. He has routinely referred to it as an "energizer". When I worked for John's company, we also referred to it as a "self-rotating MAGNETO". As you have already reported, the magnet GENERATES a small Sine-Wave in the trigger winding. The front half of this wave is blocked by the E-to-B diode, and the trailing half of this wave turns the transistor ON to push the magnet out. When the field of the power winding reaches its "maximum", the induced current in the trigger winding falls to ZERO again, so the transistor SHUTS OFF. This process produces a "relaxation oscillator" triggered by the magnet MOVING passed the coil.

You have to understand the historical development of these systems. John started by wanting to build a motor/generator that ran itself. This goes back to the little booklet he published in 1984 where he shows an electric motor turning a variable reluctance generator. Ultimately, he learned how to integrate all of the functions into one machine.

Yes, it is true that it is "easier" to make a pure electric oscillator, but that is because JOHN showed you how AND why!!!!! But also, the mechanical energy produced by the SSG is FREE and does not reduce the efficiency of the electrical energy recovery AT ALL. It took years of careful study and observation to firmly establish these facts.

Radiant Energy CAN be liberated in circuits that do not have magnets or "spark gaps". The primary trick is "abrupt switching" in a low impedance DC circuit OR high frequency switching in an AC circuit. Tesla describes both as part of his "Method of Conversion" disclosed in 1893.

To understand all of this in its original context, you may want to purchase my DVD Tesla's Radiant Energy from my website. Its a 90 minute lecture and PowerPoint presentation primarily consisting of Tesla quotes from his patents and articles and commentary by me. This DVD clarifies Tesla's model of electricity and clearly defines what Radiant Energy is, and where his Radiant Energy Patents fit into his other discoveries.

Free Energy - Electric Motor Secrets, Bob Teal | Magnipulsion, Edwin Gray, Nikola Tesla, and other books & videos by Dr Peter Lindemann

I hope this helps.

Peter

[Peter Lindemann]

No disception intended....

Thank you for that Peter. You have explained more in that message than I ever got from any other source, Mr. Friedrich included.

I do have a question though. Why was the pendulum included in the EFTV2 film, especially if it kills batteries? The conclusions one is left to draw from the presentation of the pendulum in that film are misleading.

Shamus,

Thanks for your kind remarks. Many of these filmed sequences where made BEFORE the research was completed. These films have been in production for YEARS. John never lies, but in this case, the whole truth ended up with a different twist.

More than $2Million has been spent researching all these different machines at Energenx in the last 4 years. At first, we had high hopes for the pendulums. Many of the batteries it killed were not fully recovered until the computer controlled Battery Rejuvenator was developed.

Peter

[elias]

Thank you very much Peter

I just have to say thanks very much, I think that I have grasped what is actually going on, on Bedini's circuits, And I really have enjoyed your talks Peter.

I constantly wish success for all of the Free Energy researchers especially you who kindly assist us in understanding these suppressed technologies.

[albertMunich]

Could this pendulum be used as a proof for the chinese "Lead Out" theory?
Is the gravity aspect not completely different from a rotary machine?
Pretty intriguing. I had wondered if the pendulum was not Johns testbed for the lead out theory....

albert

[johnnyfg]

After a while, the charge batteries all DIED!!!!!

It is not necessary that the method is wrong.
It could be that the energy extracted was too high
for the batteries to handle.
Perhaps some kind of carefully adjusted sparkgap could guard the battery?

Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association
Talks about rotating pyramids that they rotated. its weight
was changed during 2 periods each year ... radiant energy
comes from outer space and is dependent of planetary
movements. Not sure if this is relevant in this case.

[Hoppy]

Elias,

The "optimum ratio" of Radiant and electron flow is not known, since we can't quantify the Radiant fraction.

Peter, would it be fair to say that the optimum current is that which is required to fully charge a battery in the time required? In saying this, I'm referring to the charging current, not the supply current to the energiser / charger. I'm ignoring battery condition which obviously very much affects the ratio of charging current to rate of charge.

I think John Bedini's new commercial chargers demonstrate that the bigger the battery, the more charging current needed. I understand his latest charger supplies up to 17 Amps to cater for batteries up to 250A/hrs.

John Bedini claims that negative energy can rapidly charge batteries. Can you say if this relies on a certain level of current in the same way as radiant energy, or do you see the two as one and the same thing?

Hoppy

[SkyWatcher]

hi folks, didn't want to clutter up Lee-Tseung's thread.
I was able to get my pendulum working and it's maintaining a nice swing height.

Though the air-core coil is still self oscillating and I'm routing the flyback to a charge battery.
Using 12 volts sla input charging 12 volt sla.
Does anyone know a way to get it to stop oscillating.
Using 24 gauge bifilar.
I'm using a 2n3055, had to use a 150 ohm base resistor to get it to open up transistor enough, base resistor gets hot, transistor stays coo,lwill have to make parallel resistor set.
Any tips appreciated.
I plan to mount single wound air-core coils, similar to drive coil shown, along pendulum's path of movement for generating some output.
peace love light
Tyson
Here's a pic of the setup.


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