Ray Savant - Muhamed - Techzombie Exposed

[techzombie]

you said you keep all pm's, what about this one?

[ATTACH]13473[/ATTACH]

Socioath.... OWNED!!!

Nice one Bro!

keep calling out the liar.. let see how much he squirms.

[techzombie]

Does anyone recall how the lost or missing video footage from the SF Tesla Society was obtained? Maybe I just keep missing a posting with these details.

David Wittekind got them for an source that chooses to be anon.

hint he is a dude that helped out Eric MANY times in the past... and also got burned hard.

[Geometric_Algebra]

Zombie Attack

David Wittekind got them for an source that chooses to be anon.

hint he is a dude that helped out Eric MANY times in the past... and also got burned hard.

It's fairly clear at this point that you are a very reliable source of information, so I guess I'll just have to take your word for it.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

BTW: You're the movie buff. How do you kill a zombie?

[Aaron]

hypocrite

Whose ridiclous idea was that????? Great question....

IT WAS ERIC'S IDEA

We all did a double face palm on that one.... Try talking to him yourself..

David and I wanted to focus on getting the CIG done and getting it out to the world but.... Eric has MANY pet projects...

Seriously... you guys don't know the half of it. and now we have a sociopath wanting to further suck his blood after eating up 3 months.....

double face palm....

You are a scumbag Ray. Look how easily you turn on Eric when you start to get exposed. You are showing everyone how you just shake your head at Eric.... Talk about a sociopath - first you're all about integrity and now you are disrespecting Eric to the whole world.

If you had any sense of decency or respect for Eric, your aim would be to PROTECT Eric and his reputation. Instead you simply show you are what I said, a scumbag.

[Aaron]

@Tom

you said you keep all pm's, what about this one?

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Tom,

I vaguely remember that. It's ANONYMOUS and I'm not going to waste much time following up on anonymous requests.

I generally do not follow most of what was in Eric's threads because I don't have the technical background to follow it. So expecting me to know every little scuffle going on between members is not just unrealistic, it is downright ridiculous to assume I knew what you were talking about.

You know who I am and how to get in touch with me by email. I thought we had some cordial communications by email and I had a degree of respect for you and your past work. Why play games and send this when you could have emailed me. Perhaps Eric was right about you. Otherwise, why would you be playing these games now?

[zinky]

Tom,

I vaguely remember that. It's ANONYMOUS and I'm not going to waste much time following up on anonymous requests.

I generally do not follow most of what was in Eric's threads because I don't have the technical background to follow it. So expecting me to know every little scuffle going on between members is not just unrealistic, it is downright ridiculous to assume I knew what you were talking about.

You know who I am and how to get in touch with me by email. I thought we had some cordial communications by email and I had a degree of respect for you and your past work. Why play games and send this when you could have emailed me. Perhaps Eric was right about you. Otherwise, why would you be playing these games now?

you really are an *******!

[Aaron]

Ray Savant

Socioath.... OWNED!!!

Nice one Bro!

keep calling out the liar.. let see how much he squirms.

You're obviously retarded - I laid out the facts in your own words, in the emails and with evidence.

The videos referenced prove in Eric's own words that there was obviously something going on between you guys and him and it was obviously before Eric ever came up here to meet me.

What that shows is that your mentally degenerate claims about me being the one who put Eric against you is 100% BS and you concocted it because you are the one who is a liar and you think you can continue to obscure this fact from people's eyes by puking more of your tripe all over this board. And on top of that, you very easily call Eric out as being responsible for something "ridiculous"? Yes, you continue to reveal who you are.

A psychopath who has sex with his motorcycle and who has taken so many steroids it has shriveled your brain to the size of a peanut. You are a pathetic low life scumbag who has been causing Eric great misery for many months, preying on Eric and his work like a pedophile at a playground.

[Aaron]

@Tom Brown - Borderlands

you really are an *******!

You send me that PM asking me to Ban Eric. You don't tell me who you are or what it is even about and you make no references to any posts. Look at your own message - you don't even put your name to it. Zinky? Who the hell is Zinky??? I was supposed to take that seriously? A new member with 1 or 2 posts at the time if even that requesting me to ban someone. I think you need to wake up look at it from someone else's perspective instead of just your own.

I already knew Ray had some issues but after hearing Eric explain quite a few things to me and witnessing what I've witnessed, he was right on about everything else that I wasn't able to verify at the time.

I knew of issues between Eric and you, but didn't know what to make of that because I had a lot of respect for you and didn't see you as being that way, but evidently Eric was right, which is very sad to learn. I was an admirer of your work and now I find myself disgusted with you.

[7redorbs]

Deleted Comments on indiegogo, again.....

I had initially planned to say no more and respect Mr. Dawson and the other respectable gentleman who have signaled their wish to advance. Might i suggest that in order to advance, first one must have a proper foundation to build upon.

I see that a comment of mine has again disappeared from the indiegogo campaign comments page, for the Eric Dollard fundraiser again. Is this something ERic Dollard is doing? Or is somebody else pulling strings?

I am yet to get an answer so far, that has not completely avoided the question. I have however been threatened, insulted and called a psycho. It is not very good really, is it? Should I do nothing. Probably. So it is not a wholely professional or courteous thing that I am doing here myself, but what are the alternatives? Say nothing I suppose and see how much worse things could get. Months ago I knew something was wrong, I wish I had said more earlier to be honest and got this whole ugly thing out of the way.

For reasons that I have absolutely nothing to hide. I am now hereby including the missing posts from indiegogo. I am in fact sick of them vanishing and "history" being re-written by an organisation that claims to be preserving it. I am suspicious of this conflicting interest and I believe others have signaled their dissatisfaction. In contrast to aetherforces objectives to revealing the truth history of electricity, it does seem rather hypocritical to be rewriting the eric dollard campaign history, and having myself suffered very directly and abruptly first witness to such unreasonable afflictions I find myself writing in discourse once again on these matters. Giant alien invasion anybody?


It is with deep and lasting regret I am writing this yet again, and it is with further hope that it can reach some finality. Or better yet some explanation as has been repeatedly requested in the most dignified and respectful of ways by myself. It is wish sadness that I cannot say the same respect has been shown towards myself. And I find that I must reject these deletions of my comments must strenuously.

Many people helped this campaign and they all deserve credit, least of all myself. I never expected any. I see though that you are happy to take credit without thanking people such as myself to which Eric's success has been bolstered. I can genuinely say that I am happy for him. I wish that it was not such bitter sweet thoughts, as I am no longer welcome to this paradise lost. It is what it becomes to be.

My respect goes most of all to Mr. David Dawson. David I am sorry for this, and for me, i believe it ends here. David is the silent objective character, a real tunnel of light in my opinion, a Truly objective scientist seeking truths as an engineer, and artist. I detect that his manner of some time late is that of frustration, and one on that of many levels, but it is right, and he is right, He should feel frustrated, and a lot of people could learn something from David Dawson, a man whom truly is objective, honest and respectful in his communications and desires. I feel that the problems that David face are similar to that of Eric's , that is to say materials, and I have hoped for a very long time now that they would be able to communicate more readily in order to achieve something, as these two men are probably second to none in their vacuum tube experience on EF. I am aware Dawson has many tubes of great vintage and he has already operated a properly configured CRD. The next step will be in determining the velocity of the detected rays by a second detector, and a timer of great resolution , such as a similar manner as expressed by the experiments of wheatstone measuring electrostatic discharge in a segmented transmission line spark gap. It can be expected that similar results from Tesla detecting rays from Antares might be observed. 50C propogation and up.

A true miracle finally destroying the pillar of relativity once and for all! I can see the excitement coming! It really is this close, and I feel that there is genuinely a very dark presence that is manipulating facts in order to create MAXIMUM confusion and fallout.

May we all takes steps to counter such elements and work as fellows to resolve these things as men, for our fathers, mothers, and kid children and family. We must aspire to raise above even our enemies. Hard this is, I know.

The keys of vibration, sound, resonance, gravity, electricity and magnetism, are unknown in their base , frame and individual particles or corpuscles of matter. Still the base is unknown and so the entire frame of electricity hangs in an awkward balance. Aurora is not even a light. It is a current. Eric knows all about it. I wish and hope he does not really think I am a "psycho" as has been suggested by the fundraiser, because I have forwarded his work significantly.

We have used electricity for hundreds of years but still have no idea what it is! Here we have the one man that can do all this, and something that I have recognised for some years, and unnecessary arguments are arising from lack of basic self respect. I know Eric is a wise man and is not alien to the things that I am referring to. There is nothing alien about it at all!

Many could learn a lot from the gentleman Dollard and Dawson. I'm ashamed to say it, but it is in fact true. I have watched, since before these times whilst in N6 KPH yahoo. But - Some of the elitist attitudes, the academic attitudes and the new age attitudes, nearly all are of contemptible types, so narrow and inflexible - they have such small universes - but why must this be so. What ever happened to the era of careful commercial and engineering progress and experiments & polite scientific communique and writing? It is a dying thing, a dying era, a dying generation. we should not let Eric die with it.

Eric is not getting any younger, and he looks tired, and run down. I have sensed that something is not right. people like me who have helped so much could make a difference to the funding of the lab but if we are treated the way that I have suggested has occurred then what is the way out? I do not know. But if some of the things that have been said here are true, as the things I have state I claim to be so - then this needs to be resolved immediately for Eric's benefit.

Luckily for Eric he is still a brilliant, charismatic and lovable man. He has failures like all of us, but more usually than not - the greater the genius, the more significant the small failings are. I could live with Eric calling me a psycho. I think it is a little bit unnecessary, and extremely hurtful after everything that I did to make this possible.

I am sorry for what I have had to say. it is with regret that I am speaking of this at all. Not getting credit I can live with, but seeing mystical b.s and other questionable people corrupting eric dollard with this undesired abusive attitudes is beyond belief, especially when I stand accused of such a thing by these men. To add this I have been threatened by libel and slanders accusing of the same , to which their exists no evidence I am currently aware. (have these comments now been deleted in such retrospective thought?) In the same manner it is fair to say that any persons attitude and behavior speaks volumes about who they are and what they represent. Some unlucky and less fortunate others may not even be aware that their attitude reveals their expansions of meaning, even accidentally, or if incompetent to be aware of such a thing. If certain men are not aware of their conduct, then it is an generally embarrassing thing, one I can hardly stand to watch. It is an endeavor worthy of the eyes cringe to some extent. I am sorry to say that I have felt appalled since the very beginning of the "aetheric revolution". I wonder how Eric feels. I wonder.

Said people can criticise me, but what could possibly be more important than what the man Eric Dollard feels and wants. And if Eric is being relegated because of the misappropriations of other people, then it is the same story happening again. There seems to exit a dangerous recipe for confusion, mis-communication, and generally disaster. The last thing I or any one else who truly wants Eric to succeed is someone creating an unnecessary and prolonged legal battle as a result of rash or emotional responses. I believe that is what I have seen, and I am writing to signal that this is wrong. And that the excuses are unnecessary when a simple apology and explanation could have been rendered by an otherwise professional organisation with an incredibly good standing. IT is sad, is it not? That this has not happened.

That a reasonable thread has not been struck in the chords to reclaim the lost battle of hope?

Anyone that cared about Eric or truly representing his campaign and vision in a professional manner would not jeopardise the hard work they did with such brash and undeserved overconfidence. Such as defaming people.

If this is happening more widespread than just in my case this has to stop NOW. I have no problem with being defamed, I am concerned that other people may not be so willing. Such as George Gadboury, or Aaron deciding to take legal action for harassment or libel something. Nobody likes a dishonest person more than the next, but becoming a brute in order to resolve situations can result in worse than the supression, but in fact reprisal. THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT FOR ERIC. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS WHAT ERIC WANTS EITHER, IS IT? DO YOU NOT THINK ERIC HAS HAD ENOUGH OF THAT? YET IN THE INDIEGOGO CAMPAIGN YOU SUGGESTED PEOPLE HARASS GEORGE. Well that is great, and I am glad you got the lecture, it is brilliant by the way. But one has to be careful about the means and ends they chose to achieve their goals, or they should not be surprised if the golem they create turns on them and devours them. This a myth with a real lesson, and not some psuedo epic win nonsense for the brainless masses, but a truly important philosophical lesson that is currently not being heeded. Maybe this was Eric's idea. But not how I would have done it.

Having run two indiegogo campaigns myself, I am aware that it is sometimes heated when things do not go as planned and people write in asking where there perks are such as I did now multiple times. I do not believe that anything I have said or done as a contributor could ever justify the treatment that I have experienced. I will not go further. I believe I have been thorough already in rejecting these untruths in the least psychotic manner that is available. What infuriates me most of all is that my comments have been deleted again, after calling this out. I want to say that this is - NFG.

(continued..)

[7redorbs]

indiegogo comments deleted, and finding a way forward (part 2)

A lot can be told from a mans attitude. Calling your fellow man a sociopath, "psycho" or referencing Freud's work whilst referring to them in the 3rd person whilst speaking to the forum as if a performer with your audience is something of which belongs in a circus, it is at the very least to me patronishing as is the entire aetheric revolution. No academic or new age institution would welcome your threatening activity. Calling a war cry to attack someone because they do not agree with you belongs in a class room and not in a scientific or engineering rationale. To use effective metaphors, one must first understand their meaning.

It is my hope that Eric has not said the things that have been relayed to me as not only are these extremely upsetting and saddening but entirely inappropriate and were not necessary.

I was going to say nothing. However in light of some things that have been mentioned about how Eric may or may not potentially feel, I feel that the sin of my exposing a wrong outweighs the sin of allowing it to continue unfettered. And in light of the untruths that have been spoken about me, and the suppression of my truthful statements I have felt compelled to act.

Especially considering when we are dealing with a group of people which are against so-called "suppression" and are saying that "everyone is welcome". The truth is I did as much as Aaron, Techz, David or anyone, at least to the capacities and resources I had. I didn't want thanks. What I actually wanted was the $100 letter I paid for, and nothing else. We had given the $1100 freely. But I didn't even get the letter. Instead I got threatened by the campaign fundraiser "ray" "Mohammed" or techzombie, or whatever the other names he goes by. Apparently Eric has said stuff about me on video, and I am to learn that I should go away "or else". On a fairer level, having done an excessive amount of work, that others who received a letter from eric did not do. I felt a little bit deflated by the whole thing.

I infact I invite this so-called video footage of Eric Dollard slandering me that Techzombie speaks about to be aired, but suggest that continued activities such as this cannot go on much longer. I do not fear the threat of reprisal and I do not bow to it's threat either.

It was Nikola Tesla's birthday yesterday, I am sorry that it had to be with such distaste and discourteous exchange, but there was nothing good in this unlucky business for me to discuss, and so I found myself forced in talking of these unworldly things in regard to the unfortunate business of misgivings and so it was with the same regret that in dealing with such unlucky business I myself had to talk of resolving the same,


I firstly and lastly am least of all perfect among us, but I believe that tomorrow I will still have my self respect.

My sincerest apologies and deepest respect. If Eric still wants our money or to provide some sort of explanation for the way that I have been treated, I welcome it. I have no ill will towards Eric or the campaigners of this fundraiser at all, even if they do think I am a psychopath and my book is ****. I hereby reject that and challenge it, and must so forth apologies unreservedly for having to bring this to public attention.

To be honest I sacrificed too much of my life to be able to recognize such a hurtful and unnecessary comment, but nonetheless write in recognition of it for the last and kindest time. Most of all In hope that Eric Dollard himself will not end up damaged by such continued and unjustifiable remarks aimed at people. Success is not an impenetrable shield, it depends on your people.

And whilst Eric Dollard and every engineer hates politics and refuses to co-operate with the "paristic oscillations", it results in those paristic oscillations taking over the entire board, and the engineer ends up being governed by an inferior wave.

Plato, I believe said that the only existing problem with not participating in poltiics was that we would be governed by our inferiors. Here lies the concern of Tesla , Reich, and Dollard, and the singular obstruction to this work.

I am prepared to work together, I always was, but it seems many are not prepared to work with me. Or even preserve the truth of this historic occasion,

What a shame.



Best,
A

[zinky]

Tom,

I vaguely remember that. It's ANONYMOUS and I'm not going to waste much time following up on anonymous requests.

I generally do not follow most of what was in Eric's threads because I don't have the technical background to follow it. So expecting me to know every little scuffle going on between members is not just unrealistic, it is downright ridiculous to assume I knew what you were talking about.

You know who I am and how to get in touch with me by email. I thought we had some cordial communications by email and I had a degree of respect for you and your past work. Why play games and send this when you could have emailed me. Perhaps Eric was right about you. Otherwise, why would you be playing these games now?

With the mountains of words you are willing to spew, with all their inherent illogic, and with all the bravado you claim in keeping track of everything, how could you overlook someone pointing out that false and defamatory information is being posted on your forum by one of the star posters? Any other forum supervisor would have jumped right to that, as such is not only against most forum rules, it is also a violation of law. How many anonymous names are there on here? What a joke of an excuse

And so "Perhaps Eric was right about" me, so I'm assuming that you agree that I'm a thief and embezzler and married a demon? You are a Class A Chump Aaron, really, there is no getting around it at this point. I'm sure you can squeeze a few more pages of weasel words out trying to defend yourself, but all you are doing is painting yourself into a corner.

Funny how this all worked out. When I saw Eric was going to speak at your conference I smelled trouble right away, as I knew you would be putting him into your 'guerrilla marketing' format and would cause contention with those who have sacrificed to help Eric. I didn't care because it is not my issue, but I did see it coming. Of course none of any of this will be Eric's fault, he's like the pope, infallible

And I'm shocked that TechZombie raced motorcycles and chased women, jeez, what's this world coming to anyway???

[zinky]

You send me that PM asking me to Ban Eric. You don't tell me who you are or what it is even about and you make no references to any posts. Look at your own message - you don't even put your name to it. Zinky? Who the hell is Zinky??? I was supposed to take that seriously? A new member with 1 or 2 posts at the time if even that requesting me to ban someone. I think you need to wake up look at it from someone else's perspective instead of just your own.

I already knew Ray had some issues but after hearing Eric explain quite a few things to me and witnessing what I've witnessed, he was right on about everything else that I wasn't able to verify at the time.

I knew of issues between Eric and you, but didn't know what to make of that because I had a lot of respect for you and didn't see you as being that way, but evidently Eric was right, which is very sad to learn. I was an admirer of your work and now I find myself disgusted with you.

Glad you're disgusted with me, getting to be a badge of honor around here lol. Aptly delineates the total lack of true intellectual capacity in your smarmy brain. Guess I'll be banned and you'll hide this, whatever dude, makes me laugh. As I said, thick skin is a virtue

[Aaron]

Final note to Tom Brown - Borderlands

And I'm shocked that TechZombie raced motorcycles and chased women, jeez, what's this world coming to anyway???

You came here with accusations about me neglecting this and that as if I have some evil motive. You talk as if I was supposed to know what you're talking about and the message you use as proof that I "ignored" you was by a new member with 1-2 posts telling me to ban Eric. Go look at it yourself - no signature, no reference to any posts - just you telling me that Eric is insulting you about various things, you didn't tell me who you were, etc... Whatever reason you had for staying anonymous and neglecting to tell me who you were or what the posts were about looks fishy to me and I'm not going to waste my time. I'm not going to go read each and every post to go find what you are talking about. Anyone can flag any post and that saves time and directs the moderators directly to the posts in question.

THIS PARAGRAPH IS EDITED: I can't verify what Eric says about you, but I have enough information in my archives (just my notes of what people have said) to suggest one or two very shady things that you have done in the past that are completely out of integrity and I can and will make this as big of a deal with as much publicity as it needs to be to expose the fact that you are not as altruistic as you claim. You do genuinely try to help then when you get your panties in a bunch, you are completely willing to flush all decency down the drain just because you're mad. TO CLARIFY TO TOM BROWN - my reference to "starting to believe Eric" is that your motives are questionable in general because what you are pulling here with me. As far as embezzlement, being married to a demon, etc..., I don't know about the specifics of what anyone says but the gist of you having some integrity issues was just verified by you to me today.

Little do you know that this Techzombie is behind the group that actually sees you as their enemy since behind the scenes, you are responsible for being, allegedly, greatly responsible for screwing Eric in the past. You don't seem to have enough sense to realize that YOU are one of the people Techzombie would like to destroy for screwing with Eric in the past - and here you are completely oblivious to all reality as you stand by his side with your arm around him. People who I thought were so intelligent are showing signs that they are literally losing their flipping minds.

Yes, you are banned now as is Techzombie because I won't let you obscure the truth about Ray Savant or anything else going on. I have to get that interview with Eric up with as little distraction as possible.

Ray is not about racing motorcycles and chasing women Mr. Enlightened one. If you know how to read the English language, you can see that it has NOTHING to do with racing motorcycles and chasing women and if that is the level of your comprehension, then there are no words to describe you mental filtration process, which selectively lets you see what suits you in the moment while discarding the rest. You really have gone off the deep end as someone mentioned to me and I'm starting to believe it.

[jimm]

make it stop!

Well, I came here to get a bead on the life and work of one Eric P. Dollard.
I got much more than I bargained for. Thank you all.

Really guys, the lot of you should go on Dr. Phil and tell this twisted tale.
If that doesn't help,maybe Jerry Springer?

I try to help homeless people in my area, so I know a little bit about the some of the psychology involved.
One thing that I don't do is throw a lot of money at a homeless person and expect that will solve all of his/her problems. In fact, it makes it worse.

I watched closely how Eric interacted with the interviewer on that recent vid.
I can tell that he must be terror to work with.
As long as he is the one doing the talking, he's great. When some interaction from another happens, he gets abrupt.
So, here you have a guy who has history of making poor life choices who wants to run the show.
Sorry, I don't buy the "I lost 7 labs because I'm always a victim" story.
( Dr. Phil ain't gonna like it either)

He's not a team player, that's for sure.
I'll bet he wants to do whatever comes to his mind on your nickel.
Like I said before, he a fascinating guy of a mercurial nature.
Good luck with that!

Now we have "adult" men bickering and hurling insults at each other like ten year olds on a psudo science forum and you wonder why your "research" gets no respect?
All of this he said/she said stuff is ridiculous to the point of being hilarious!

Keep it up, I'll go grab another beer and some popcorn.

Ps: Techzombie, Your OK,man,because you told it like it is at the lab, even if you do ride a pink pimp cycle.
I can only imagine the daily frustration!
You can lead a horse to water...etc, etc...

[Aaron]

@Adam Bull

I see that a comment of mine has again disappeared from the indiegogo campaign comments page, for the Eric Dollard fundraiser again. Is this something ERic Dollard is doing? Or is somebody else pulling strings?

I am sorry to say that I have felt appalled since the very beginning of the "aetheric revolution". I wonder how Eric feels. I wonder.

I know for a fact that Eric has nothing to do with that. Ray Savant and David Webster are the only Indegogo campaign managers (according to a message from Webster before) for the campaign you are referring to.

It would be hard for me to believe that David would be erasing past history. Even when I asked David about Ray taking credit for the traffic that came from my promotions, David said that it would be Ray that could post something so Ray is the one who is most likely deleting things and trying to alter history.

Eric has not been represented the way Eric wants to be represented by all the aetheric revolution circus act.