Ray Savant - Muhamed - Techzombie Exposed

[7redorbs]

Eric P Dollard is a good man, but who is a friend to him?

Dear Friends,

Eric Dollard Campaign PART 1


I believe many people here may have wasted their time fighting when they could have been working together achieving the goal of a sound base to work on.

Many may know that I was a "key person" of the team for the eric dollard indiegogo fundraiser, I certainly do, as Techzombie says so on the ericdollard.com website, which is now called Aetherforce.com.

Adam Bull: Adam wrote a Book featuring the work of Eric and has been a key person on the web team, referring many people and much money to the fundraiser.

http://www.aetherforce.com/eric-dollard-is-going-viral-bankers-not-pleased/

I am thanked here second to David Whit and David Web. Thanks for the thanks. Somewhat less thanks for what I am about to set out.

I referred to Eric's campaign about 100,000 people or so in my networks, possibly quite a many more. I had hundreds of friends help. I did this gladly! The reason why I was thanked is because I had a large part in turning the $36,000 Eric got in the first place. I managed to convince my family and partner to donate Eric $1000. For one, which made a large difference to the campaign.

I had compiled a small network over the years. Having had an interest in scientific, electrical theory and natural philosophy from a young age, and having experienced the academic and non academic realms of thought somewhat intensively (that is intensively infuriating), when I found Eric, it very much saved me from the torment of academic as well as the dire alternative scientific life. Finally I thought - a clear road. Explanation and reference with historic context. And from an EX R.C.A employee. I thought to myself. I am not going to miss this and I am going to document it so that nobody else has to go thru the long process of discovery.

I thought to myself, about 4 years ago upon discovering Eric This guy is a darn genius and I cannot believe that nobody is listening to him and his excellent theories and treatises on electric and radio theory. His knowledge of electrical history has allowed me to "win" many audacious conversations with significantly educated men. The magneto dielectric is indeed forgotten. Indeed Dollard, was very different to the alternative science fraudsters. I just couldn't understand why nobody else had picked him up. Why was it only a small organization in the nevada desert Borderland Sciences Foundation that had recognised him? Unbelievable! This was what I thought 4 years ago, and it has been a very uphill struggle to refine myself to the level Eric works. Why had this man become so alienated from people? I do not have many friends, most of all since taking up eric's work, because I was interested in pursuing truth, and I recognised that maybe Eric was the same - truth doesn't make friends - unless friends are looking for it. The same stubborn streak, the irrepresible "its not an electron", "where is the electron", "show it to me" streak. The same streak that keeps those vacuum tubes of David and Eric's humming. That streak, was in them, and I had it too. The explanation is never good enough streak. The "you are ignoring the exceptions". The Faradays law only holds whilst Kircchoff and ohm breaks down. The holy grail of all scientific research is what Eric represents. The parametric transformer, one of many avenues of research Eric has involved himself, many times describing things beforehand that are capable of "impossible" things, that is to say unequal energy generation and a non conservative field.

Eric Dollard was the man that gave me the confidence I needed to think for myself, and read more about Tesla. I did. It led me to the Tesla non electromagnetic transmission system, the electric mechanical oscillator, and the faster than light waves or rays described in Tesla's work. I actually thought I cannot believe that I was not taught this stuff at school. I wanted to write about my experience, so that others, and there are many less fortunate others than myself - who are not aware electrons could be non existing things.

Eric - he led me to Tesla's groundbreaking understandings on radioactivity, matter, anti-matter, and the faster than light massless aetheric corpuscles of some kind that which they are formed. Eric's work helped me form a general book on Tesla's alternative artistic and natural philosophy of tesla's magnifying transmitter. The plan was to donate the money to Eric. Being a musician of some 20 years standing I was in a unique position to understand some of eric's and tesla's work on the accelerating t.m.t capacitor discharge and the virtue of mutual inductance as described in dollard's books published by the BSF. It is no different than being able to strike a note on a piano, and then increase the density of notes per second or PPQ (parts per quarter) in the bar. This increases amplitude. Condenses energy in the dimension of time. Simple mechanical stuff. I find it easy, many do not. Many of you may recall Eric Dollard "man of the desert" and eric dollard "Nikola Tesla & Edward Leedskalnin & Eric Dollard. An Interpretation of Vortex Science" video that I did about Eric and were included on ericdollard.com. I am an artist as well as a musician and scientist, composer and writer. Also many may remember Tesla, Poverty and Tyranny another musical composition that I did for these gentleman, that was also used on the ericdollard.com website. As you can see I have dedicated much of my time and effort to helping you all.

eric dollard man of the desert
Dollard - Man of the Desert - YouTube

eric dollard interpretation of vortex science
Nikola Tesla & Edward Leedskalnin & Eric Dollard. An Interpretation of Vortex Science - YouTube

Tesla, Poverty, Tyranny
Tesla, Poverty & Tyranny. - YouTube

As It can be seen I have done quite a bit for Eric in getting his word out there. And my work has been used throughout the campaign.

[dward]

I am very new to this forum but over that past few months I have learned a lot from people on this thread, not much of it was technical mind you. I have learned that the greatest enemies to this type of technology are the very people who supposedly champion it.

I have learned that if one has any pearls of wisdom, science, technology, etc. Don't give it to the pigs in the alt sci/tech community. Sheesh, you guys are insane; filled with conspiracies of oppression of your device/discovery/belief, while you yourself are oppressing others in your own community.

The reason Alt Science never escapes it's cult like origin's are because of the people who supposedly champion it. The Correa's of Aetherometry fame are absolutely correct in their assertion that neither the alternative science and technology community NOR officialdom is correct. Both are a trap. You guys have proven that beyond a doubt.

Eric offers some very real technical achievements, and the opportunity to engineer with them. It is just unfortunate no matter what part of science and technology you look at, it's all the same. Politics, lawyers(i bet this will end in a lawsuit), money, money, money, greed, ego, Me first-no ME first attitudes.

Most of what i've found here, and especially in the alternative technology community is hearsay, superstition, and religious dogma. When someone actually HAS found a better way to use technology you all exploit them for your own benefit. None of you here is any better than the JP morgans of the world. You just don't have to money, power, and influence to destroy people yet.

There are people here genuinely interested in new and better science and technology. I have learned much from Eric Dollard, his work, and experiential views on the world. It's unfortunate that in this day and age, greed is the order of the day, ego and selfishness the status quo.

This whole fiasco and others like it, on this forum and others confirms for me that you people have absolutely nothing to offer to the world of technology and science.

There are genuine geniuses in this world... they get the work, they shape the world. EPD, from what i've read has had many opportunities in the "real" world to engineer and optimize the systems he's been brought on board to work with.

This forum and others like it, in contrast, are filled with nerds and geeks with serious chips on their shoulders that THEY didn't discover what he and others like him have discovered. People on these and similar forums continually talk about NWO nonsense, and pseudo christian fundamentalism mixed with new age eastern mysticism. As long as you arein to that stuff you'll never have the brain power to actually look and and perceive the world yourself, and thus perhaps discover something new.

Those of you on both sides of this argument show your true colors. Notice, Trex(EPD) has yet to publish a response to this(good for him to stay out of this crap.), hopefully he will find a willing utility, or heck maybe even the O.N.R or similar organization to fund him.

This has got to end. No wonder alternative science and technology are seen as an absolute joke by those who are actually employed as scientists and engineers.

Here's to stepping away from the cult(and trap) of alternative sci/tech... and discovering for ourselves, through hard work, observation, experimentation, and revision, what is and isn't reality in this world.

[Geometric_Algebra]

Standing Neutral

Aaron,

I apologize for the brothel reference, but you should consider researching the deceptive language and terminology of sustainable development. In my opinion, sustainability propaganda is saturating all mediums at the moment which would make it easy to be caught in the web (not unlike the little info web I'm obviously caught in here).

This situation is starting to look scary and I'm having a difficult time countering it with smart-ass comments and creative play.

All the best to Eric.

[teslasmyhero]

Hey techzombie dude,

Is this you 3:57 secs in Brian Ramages' short vid Severed?


SEVERED (2009) - HD - YouTube

teslasmyhero

[jimm]

You must be completely blind. How many times does it need to be said that Eric has his own private life, which is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. He has issues with his car that needs to be fixed and that costs money, etc... again, you are speaking out of ignorance of what the facts are or what Eric's situation is. You are essentially saying out of ignorance that Eric shouldn't have any money of his own! You should be completely and totally ashamed of yourself for what you have insinuated with your post!!!

Aaron,

I don't know any of you, that's correct, and your private lives are none of my business. However you all chose to do a public brawl, so now we get the picture of what a mess all of this has become.

Eric was living in his car or couch surfing until those guys came along and offered to help him in a big way by acquiring a lab for him.

I didn't say that Eric didn't deserve any money of his own, those are your words. All i am saying is that when the chips are down and the finances are getting tight, he should also sacrifice as many there apparently have done way beyond what most people would do on his behalf.
It seemed as if he didn't appreciate the lab he was given.

If he is indeed being intimidated, then he should leave. the lab and equipment sold,money returned, and everyone goes back to where they were in life.

Again, not a peep from Eric, but you continue to write one diatribe after another, claiming to Be Eric's champion.
Maybe you are, maybe you're not, I don't know you. I do know that you guys definitely have issues with each other.

Eric has not come out for either side, ironically, which makes me wonder if he isn't the "puppet master" pitting one side against the other for reasons lnown only to him, which he did according to you.

No one has said that they have a contract with Mr. Dollard to do ANYTHING,
so he is free to go back to the bush and all of you can just lick your wounds and move on.

Mr. Dollard, then, has full legal recourse at his disposal to have anything that he does not want done in his name taken down.
I'm just going to watch how this all shakes out.

Aaron, you seem to be the businessman of the group, but I guess not even you could get Eric to sign on the dotted line, eh?

Eric Dollard seems to be an interesting mercurial character, the more I glean about him from the net. Of coarse, people can be made to look like something they are not (good or bad)with enough PR.

What I really like about the guy is that he marches to a different drummer!
Go Eric! wherever you are...

[endthegreed]

swore I'd never post here again but...

after being banned 3 times by aaron I swore I'd never post here every again but... after someone sent me this thread I must


Aaron is alot worse than you guys know. He screwed me big time on two deals and then went out of his way to destroy my reputation. Each one of the people I was working with got an email from him about me with a torrent of lies. Even a few of my friends on Facebook got msg's from him.

This is the part that really gets me...

HE EVEN MESSAGED MY GIRLFRIEND ON FACEBOOK badmouthing me. We were breaking up at the time but she was still mortified by the creep.

Aaron is just slime. He never tells the truth and will turn on anyone he can whenever possible. I lost alot of time, money and moral dealing with this guy but I bounced back and went alot further than I ever could of being around him and this place.

a Boycott is a good idea. Hereticalforum was started just to get away from him. Not sure if it is just greed or he is an mib.

He'll prob delete this and ban me again. go ahead Aaron, you loser.

[Aaron]

@Jimm

I was also kind of surprised that Eric would rather put the cash in his pocket than pay the lab expenses, after all of moaning and groaning he did about not having one! ( no good deed goes unpunished!)

You must be completely blind. How many times does it need to be said that Eric has his own private life, which is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. He has issues with his car that needs to be fixed and that costs money, etc... again, you are speaking out of ignorance of what the facts are or what Eric's situation is. You are essentially saying out of ignorance that Eric shouldn't have any money of his own! You should be completely and totally ashamed of yourself for what you have insinuated with your post!!!

[Aaron]

@Jimm

WOW!
As an observer, I see two warring factions fighting over a man like he's an inanimate object!

Jimm,

I think you need to choose your words more wisely.

I am NOT fighting over Eric. He has been a guest in my home and a guest in my friend's home for a month and what I am doing is STICKING UP FOR THE HIM! Eric knows that he finally has someone that is on his side. There are a few others who stay anonymous, but I'm public with it and understand why the others need to stay anonymous.

You can manipulate the context in which this is happening all you want, but you cannot make one simple rational argument based on the facts of what I have posted that I am fighting "over him" when the facts that speak for themselves is that I HAVE HIS BACK!!!

[Aaron]

Ray Savant

Ray is a forked-tongue lying snake.
Let's put a face to the name...

Here is Ray Savant
aka Tech Zombie or Muhamad

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0bdOe5YPL6A/hqdefault.jpg

And some of the gullible members buying into Ray's crap have the audacity to say I'm the one with the ego???

The other pictures are too pornographic to post on this forum, but you can see them in the links.

He claims that his past life is in the past, but for everyone's information, Ray personally THREATENED Eric Dollard to his face during one of his visits. And Ray is concocting a story that I actually have something to do with trying to get Eric upset and Ray? Really???!!

You all have no idea what has been going on behind the scenes. Ray will lie to you and will make you think that his past is in the past and that somehow he is a changed man now, found God, changed his name to Muhamad....and AFTER this "change" he still threatened Eric to his face. So, what does that speak of his "change"???

He already trying to plant this in you mind with the offering of the pics with the gogo girls. Apparently, there are a few people who will eat up his garbage like candy but I'm just hoping there are MORE of you reading who will completely reserve any judgment until you see all the facts come out by all parties.

How do you all think Eric feels about this? Being threatened by a large intimidating person with a violent past with fighting experience. Any of you have the slightest feeling about what position that puts Eric in all of this? You can all side with Ray if you want and add to the slanderous lies against me - go ahead.

I will continue to stand my ground, state the truth and I will stand on Eric's side no matter what. And that is what I intend to do no matter how many of you will blow around like a leaf in the wind and side with Ray's lies and accusations.

What I learned while Eric was here was absolutely disgusting, enough to make someone puke. So put that in your pipe and smoke it while digesting the reason that I called out the snake. The #1 nefarious element surrounding Eric that has been fooling all of you from the beginning. I admit that I bought into his self aggrandizing self edification BS like some others and that he is there to simply help, but after spending a month with Eric, I've heard enough - and enough is enough.

If you want to have a look into the real Ray "Muhamad", check out these links and READ THEM very carefully WORD FOR WORD. Don't buy into his lies that it was only a past part of who he used to be - remember, he THREATENED Eric and that was AFTER the supposed "change". Who he is now is exactly who he used to be - he just changed his clothes - nothing more and nothing less. So, you all can side with Ray or you can side with Eric...there is no middle ground. For anyone that wants to say that they haven't heard from Eric's side of the story - well, YOU ALREADY HAVE! It was a martian reference anyone naive and gullible enough to believe that I had anything to do with that post doesn't have enough intelligence to follow Eric's work anyway and should just tune out.

If you search his name and the keyword MMA, you will see discussions from people that apparently know Ray that he is all screwed up from steroid use and that would explain his RAGE against Eric in one incident and the lies that you are seeing right now.

motorcyclesFTW shake
Start with this link - you can click on the links on that page to bring up the other pictures and look at other people's comments and what other people have titled the posts - there are GRAPHIC descriptions that are XXX so if you don't want to read any of that, don't click the link.

Here is Ray Savant's own personal description of his motorcycle, in his own words, trying to be anonymous. "Muhamad" is pornographic in his explanation about his motorcycle so keep that in mind before you read it.
Motorcycle Info Pages - Featured R1200GS's > Crazy Pink R1200GSA

And then of course is the epitome of how Ray Savant sees himself is in the pictures of what is on his windshield.

Again, don't buy the BS that he is a changed man and this is his past. You all know that Eric will speak his mind and if he doesn't like something, he will say it. Instead of Ray showing any compassion for Eric when Eric spoke his mind about an issue that he didn't appreciate, Muhamad threatened him!!!

You all have been duped by "Tech Zombie". He is LYING about me manipulating Eric and anyone that popped off at the mouth against me in support of Ray's BS should be ashamed of themselves. There is a reason for every single post that I have made and each post was made to illicit a certain response from a certain individual and it has been a success beyond what was imagined.

And to finish off this post, remember, BEFORE I ever posted anything in detail, Eric posted the "Martian" post on his own without me being present so Eric has ALREADY told you his feelings. Ray instantly started to defend himself in a way that was disguised as a post that was to scold me for manipulating Eric.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS???

more, WAY MORE to come...

[Aaron]

Ray Savant - Muhamad

Eric wanted this all revealed all out in the open so I supported him in that by laying out the facts.

I addressed each and every point that Webster or John P have posted in full detail. I have not responded to Ray because that will be for later.

Ray, who actually goes by Muhamad (that is what he said I should call him), has not admitted to anything (@Garrett). Webster was wrong in his email so I responded to Webster to let him know what I thought of his email. Muhamad then responds by accusing me of being a liar, etc... Anyone with common sense can see the sequence of events and will see that obviously Webster was out of line and Muhamad was even more out of line by retaliating with slanders accusations that I am lying, when he didn't even know what the facts are.

Everything I have posted is the absolute truth about all of these occurences and what Muhamad is doing is trying to fuel the flames with his contrived accusations and warrior battle cries. Ray is NOT welcome to have any involvement with Eric, period, and this is just the way it will have to be and if anyone cares what Eric wants, they should accept it - and it is NOT NEGOTIABLE.

@Garrett - go ahead and boycott this forum, I could care less. It is your loss, not mine. You popped off at the mouth with accusations about me without knowing the facts, so goodbye.

Here is another fact for everyone. Ray "Muhamad" Savant does NOT have permission to use ericdollard.com and he registered that website without ever asking permission ahead of time. He took it upon himself to do that and he even posted here when he did so and Eric doesn't not have any recourse that he can take that he knows of. It now forwards to aetherforce.com and he still does not approve of how Ray is using the website to portray Eric's work.

Later, Eric was met with DEMANDS by a nefarious element that surrounds him that he needs to immediately stop posting in Energetic Forum and Eric refused. What is happening here for anyone that actually cares to know is that Ray is part of a scheme to hijack Eric's work and to take exclusive control over it so they can use it to generate money to fuel their own agenda instead of supporting Eric in what he wants to do and this has been completely unacceptable to Eric. It should be no surprise that all of these facts have been left out of all of Muhamad "Tech Zombie's" online posts, videos, etc... they have been carefully crafted to portray Eric in a way that makes everyone believe that Eric is in full support of what Muhamad is doing! Nothing could be further from the truth.

Here is why Eric wants to continue to post in Energetic Forum - basically, it is not body's business and nobody needs to know a reason. It is his preference and anyone involved in trying to get him to stop what he wants to do needs to cut it out, leave him alone and let him do what he wants to do.

And keep in mind everyone that this was WAY BEFORE Eric ever came up here to meet with me and give his presentation at the conference. So you can see that Ray is nothing more than a low life liar doing his best to manipulate you all into believing I am the one who is putting Eric against Ray.

Another thing some people here obviously are swallowing up is Ray's lying and fraudulent nature to make you think he is some level and balanced person who is only here to help... Always remember that he and unfortunately John P. have open made false accusations about me "brainwashing" Eric to put him against Ray, etc... when these desires of Eric to NOT want anything to do with Ray existed WAY BEFORE I ever met Eric!

John is stating I did that as his opinion because he is easily swayed by Ray and the emotion in the moment. That is my opinion. I just think John P doesn't know any better. Muhamad is a different story.

Ray is lying about me because he sees this as an opportunity to make it look like I a the one causing trouble to get people to leave this forum so that he can capture the traffic - but there is one flaw there - Eric does NOT want to have anything to do with Ray, will not post his work on Ray's websites and will not have anything to do with Ray no matter what, period. So anyone that is buying into what Ray is claiming and is doing anything to add to the momentum of that is stabbing Eric in the back.

There is an ENTIRE HISTORY of events that are documented very well that validates that entire claim.

I will be sure to let Eric know that Garrett, Geometric Algebra, and Raui have obviously sided with Ray and their posts are working in concert with Ray's agenda. Eric will be thrilled to learn that about you guys.

Ray, you are a pathetic piece of work. Immediately after I emailed David Webster, you started to go on a rant about me being a liar, etc... calling me names and accusing me of things that were not true. You are a hypocrite and a liar. Don't preach to me about God. You changed your name to Muhamad and are dedicated to some personal holy war and Eric is nothing but a dispensable tool in your battle as is everyone else. And it IS a part of your plan to dispense of Eric at some point. There are more things documented than you can possibly imagine and this was all before I ever personally connected with Eric.

Again everyone, you can criticize me all you want. I don't care, but don't be willfully ignorant to the fact that 100% of every accusation they have made about me manipulating Eric to not trust Ray is 100% FALSE and Muhamad is playing any of you that believe that like a fool.

David Wittekind is the one member of the organization who has not contributed to the lies and slander. I will give him credit for that one. I received a message from him today and I told him I would call him. I will try to make that happen tomorrow and I will ask him if the organization approves of these communications by Muhamad. Muhamad already admitted by email that he does whatever the organization wants - so although he is not an official part of the organization, it is obvious that he has carte blanche to speak for the organization. Therefore, the entire organization is to be held responsible for defamation of character claiming that I am brainwashing Eric to go against Ray.

[jimm]

On the ouside looking in.

WOW!
As an observer, I see two warring factions fighting over a man like he's an inanimate object!

Where is Eric D. in all of this controversy, perhaps playing both sides against the middle with his silence? Waiting for a sweeter deal? Laughing all the way to the bank?

Seems to me that it's about who is going to be the high priest and donation collector for the online cult business.

I was also kind of surprised that Eric would rather put the cash in his pocket than pay the lab expenses, after all of moaning and groaning he did about not having one! ( no good deed goes unpunished!)

If that's the case, sell the lab and the equipment to recoup as much as your money as you can and move on.

Nobody is innocent here.

Does anybody have a contract with Mr. Dollard?
Also, there are allusions to the "dream". Just what exactly is the dream?
Does anybody know, or is all of that a subjective thought held by each "player".
All of these loosey goosey arrangements boggle the mind!
just sayin'

[garrettm4]

Incorrigible, Belligerent & Utterly with out Tact

Aaron Murkywater,

I honestly thought that you could set your ego down for 5 seconds. Well, WAS I WRONG! You have proven yourself to be exactly as how I imagined, a complete and utter wreck of a human being.

Garrett - you will be apologizing to me later because of your premature slanderous and libelous accusations and insinuations about me.

Funny that you say that, as I don't think "apologies" are in order if I was telling the truth. Which it seems I was. "The truth hurts", doesn't it? However, I'll leave it up to the poor souls who read these petty comments to decide who's the insidious, libelous individual.

Maybe you can grow a little from this Dr. Phil session, but probably not. As I've come to the conclusion that you are too dense to grow up and do what it takes to be a man and admit when your at fault.

Dave and Techzombie were able to admit to faults they caused... but not you Aaron. You seem to have some serious "Mental Gymnastics" going on that prevent you from ever seeing how you've done wrong or are acting out of control.

I have no big issue with you YET and think you have simply been deceived and misled by their BS

Well, I have a BIG issue with the way you've handled this situation. A simple apology could have been given, with you receiving one as well, then both sides could have dropped the issue and moved on. However, that would require you to act like an adult. But, it would appear you can't reason with a crazy man.

May you learn to act like an adult, and set your ego aside. And finally may you learn to have tact and respect others opinions, which your are in sore need of.

This will be my last response on this ridiculous "dog and pony show" of a sudo-science forum.

Respectfully,
Garrett M

P.S. Aaron, if you were wondering, the subject line of this message was directed at you. I felt I should point this out since your mental gymnastics may prevent you from realizing this rather obvious detail.

P.P.S. Oh and before you leave a snarky reply, to the tune of me being banned from the forum, I left of my own free will--not because you said I had to.


To everyone else,

I still stand by my words:

BOYCOTT THE ENERGETIC FORUM

Don't stand idly by and patronize Aaron and his petty antics!

Let's start FRESH! And find a new venue to continue REAL discussions! This could be an awesome and exciting event, so lets make it happen!

UPDATE:

Come join the new forum over at GarageHacker.com

[techzombie]

You can't be that stupid John. Your first communication in response to anything I posted was to give your grand ol opinion that I am manipulating Eric and putting him against you guys. And you have the audacity to have a problem with me calling someone a liar? Why don't you back up your ill informed "opinion" with facts. You have a double standard and are being a hypocrite.

This simply disgusting.

Non stop insults, ceaseless intimidation and a tone of utter contempt for everyone. We need to see this for what it is, a mental illness. We don't need to hate Aaron, simply to pity him for he is infected by some kind of supremacist virus.

Supremacism is exactly what this virus is. Aaron, you were not chosen by God. Enough of this insanity. You are speaking to human beings here and we will all stand up for ourselves and each other. You think you can just keep hammering out your lies and we will just give up and stop and you can declare another victory for your sick little world? Not gonna happen this time, not now, not ever.

We have all given up a good chunk of our lives for this mission and we are not going to roll over and let you piss all over it for a few shekels. You are like a screaming hysterical child running up to a building tsunami and whacking at it wildly with your little sword. Pathetic and doomed to complete and utter failure. This time mommy will NOT be there to pick up the pieces... or will she?

I'm from New York and I know how those who are infected by this supremacist virus act. This will all end with Aaron crying all over himself, rolling over and cursing all mankind for his own self destruction. Yes I would bet that urine shall also come into play when his whole fantasy world comes crumbling around him. Keep going Aaron I love watching mentally ill supremacists destroy themselves.

Allow me to translate for everyone exactly what is happening here. Sigmund Freud called this Transference. Transference - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically the mentally transfer all their actions, paranoia and lies unto another person. They blame others for exactly what they themselves do to them. It is 100% twisted and has proven remarkable effective when coupled with extreme tenacity. Good natured people cannot believe that someone would tell such huge lies all the time because it is something they would never even think of doing, thus they begin to doubt themselves. Then the parasite goes for blood and at worst declares victory and at the very least saves face.

There will be no saving face here Aaron. You have already lost and lost everything. Please by all means continue to humiliate yourself and "dig your hole deeper" as you said to me. Aaron's emails show even more what a vile and insane creature he is.

Here is the email train everyone. Judge for yourselves if this creature can be redeemed.
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David Webster: (David's strongest words in bold, decide for yourself if these words deem the response from Aaron)
Hello Aaron,

I want to express my disappointment in the statement that you made after Eric's presentation where I made the announcement that I was taking donations for EPD Laboratories. EPD Labs is a nonprofit organization that has monthly operating expenses, equipment purchases yet to be made, payroll for hired labor, etc. That was very uncool of you to come behind me and tell the crowd that you could just give cash to Eric rather than donating to EPD Labs. While I understand that Eric is the star of the show, there is a great need for EPD Labs to have any influx of funds at this point in time. When the money dries up, it seems that it will fall in David's lap to continue to pay rent on the building. This is not fair considering the huge debt that he has accumulated already from acquiring the lab in the first place.

There was an original stated goal within EPD Labs which needs operating capitol to achieve. Reaching that goal will take the financial burden off of David Wittekind and allow this operation to really get the traction that it needs to move forward. Eric has his own idea of what is a priority, and it doesn't take into account the bank account of our prime benefactor, Mr. Wittekind. In all fairness to David, we need to consider the financial situation of the organization. With that being said, I hope you will respect the operating decisions being made by organizations that you do not belong to and keep your suggestions to yourself should the situation ever arise again.

Thanks,

Dave
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TechZombie: (my response to all)
David Webster brings up an important point.

I do not make executive decisions in regards to financial matters as I am not on the board of EPD Labs thus it not my business. I simply do what the board agrees. This conference was a public forum to bring light to EPD labs efforts, this is why Eric thought it was wise to accept your kind invitation. We should all respect motivations and leadership that has brought this organization so far. We are all prospering from that effort.

I have a great deal of respect for the chain of command here and the sacrifices and leadership of David Wittekind and David Webster and I hope that you will share this same respect Aaron. It is good for all of us to work in harmony and means more exposure for all and profit for yourself. Let's keep that in mind.

Are you with us Aaron ?

-TechZ
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Aaron: (insane hysterical response. I count over 22 100% lies)

If you want to know how he replied just imagine everything he has posted here but twice as nasty. Pure and utter thug lunacy.
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We are dealing with a deranged character here and we will tolerate whatever drama is necessary to rid us of this insanity. Garret stood up like a MAN and said what needed to be said. Now we are dealing with a hysterical child, a high chair tyrant that needs to be spanked and left in the dark. Aaron, if I was your layer I'd tell you to shut your mouth right now but we all know you will just continue to dig your hole deeper. You will probably threaten me with a lawsuit now for posting those emails.... oh wait you already threatened us with a lawsuit.

Just take everything Aaron accuses us of and reverse it onto himself. Or better yet don't even read his lies. It is like the scene from the Exorcist, where the older priest tells the younger one not to listen to the demon, for the demons only power is in it's lies.

We may pity Aaron but we will not tolerate your insults, lies and complete and utter lack of respect. Your petty greed and sabotage of our mission doesn't win you any points either. (hands Aaron a bigger shovel) Keep on diggin' kid. ( sits back with popcorn )

[Aaron]

JP

Just to leave it for now John, when I drove you to the conference, I was really thinking - wow, you're really a nice guy, very respectful and positive. Last day of the conference, you were standing next to me as I was talking to someone and I wanted to spend some time chatting with you. Turned around and you were gone. I had nothing but a positive experience with you in the short time that there was and it is completely disappointing to see you easily swayed by Ray's reaction and you are refusing to see Webster's admittance that his letter was NOT respectful as you and Ray claim, but was very condescending - Webster says it had an annoyed tone and the title was Stunt at conference - yeah real polite and respectful John. And then to give your opinion that I'm manipulating Eric. Shameful and you don't even know what the hell actually happened. If you had any decency about you, you would reserve all judgment until you talk to Eric. So, you can take that for what it is. I speak the truth and you will see that it is you that has been manipulated to go against me. You don't need to comment on it, it is coming.

[Aaron]

@jp2

I have no idea what you are talking about here, but I would like to know!



What am I lying about that you keep referencing?

You will know soon enough if you really don't know what I'm talking about.

You are lying about me putting Eric against you guys. You say it is your opinion, but that is a gutless disclaimer. You insulted me with your slanderous accusation. You don't know what the hell actually transpired here while Eric was up here, do you? You have no fricking idea, but you have the audacity to tell everyone your opinion of what I supposedly have done to Eric??? You need to wake the hell up and realize what you are accusing me of.