Luc Choquette Fraud Dispute

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This company was hired by us and paid to make the diode blocks.They then breached our agreement and sold our technology to both our competitors.We also believe that they tried to reverse engineer our unit. If you are having trouble with any of the suspected products please write to this email [email protected]. If you need immediate assistance go to this address and contact us Electronic Design & Development Corp. . We will be offering free tech support to get you going. If you suspect the equipment you have to be counterfeit please call the FBI. We will also try and help those people too.

Blue phoenixignition was notified and has not complied with our requests.Currently we are not sure about how deeply they are involved the owner Richard Hann has been in contact with us and talks continue.

Ecoignition has complied and has removed the material from their website. We thank them for that.

If anyone has any information about these companies or anyone suspected in IP theft please contact the FBI.

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[Aaron]

http://www.energeticforum.com/131844-post4.html

Here is my little research on your claims - respond to them or stop
harassing me:

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I did a little bit of research into Todd Miller's claims. Basically, I can't find
anything to back the claim that his plasma ignition has anything to do with
my method that is in the patent.

Here is a cached site:
Todd Miller's Page - HHOINFO

At the bottom, there is a link to a pdf:
plasma02_fullschematic.pdf

It goes here:
http://api.ning.com/files/ztiYYy89aa...lschematic.pdf

It looks like an attempt to replicate the Puharich concept possibly.

Here is Todd Miller's HHO page:
HHOINFO

There are almost no straight up ignition schematics in that whole site.
There was one on this page:
HHOINFO

That has this:
http://api.ning.com/files/Dr8hgUUw-R...ArcCircuit.pdf

But that is just the Nexus circuit.

The Nexus circuit is nothing more than Luc's original June 27, 2008
diagram but instead of a cap discharge into the primary, it is triggered
by just battery input alone and there is a cap across the rectified output
of the inverter. In other words - virtually identical in concept to the
Suckewer - Princeton patents. So Nexus was not a new or different way
to do the plasma ignition by any stretch of the imagination.

On this google cache page:
Todd Miller's Page - HHOINFO

Todd says he openly he is fastimports3 on Youtube.

Now, YouTube - Plasma Ignition Installed on Van
that is one of his videos. And a few comments on his video:

• Very nice! I'm working on this ignition system too. Should give some nice results. Try increasing the gap of your plugs.
  
  
  brianempson 2 years ago
• Don't increase gap cut the j-tip of the plug back a little and side gap the plug. Increasing the gap kills the plasma arc effect. Also use NGK non-resistor V-power racing plugs. They have worked the best for me. Works way better than MSD 6AL box using gasoline for fuel...... I'm still think it might explode pre-conditioned (Hydrogen Enriched)water too.
  
  
  fastimports3 2 years ago
• small question
  can it explode mist water?
  i'm also doing same expiremnt.
  
  
  dreamyear 2 years ago
• At this time it doesn't explode water.
  But I have a couple other things to try still.
  
  
  fastimports3 2 years ago

I'd recommend everyone look at that video - it doesn't sound the same
as this plasma effect. Nor do any of his other videos. The plasma doesn't
even look the same. Plasma isn't plasma isn't plasma. You can light a
match and claim that is plasma because fire is plasma. A standard
Kettering spark ignition is technically a plasma ignition system since every
"spark" is a plasma. But this water sparkplug thread plasma is distinctly
different from any of these.

Todd Miller says not to increase the gap as it kills the effect AND that
it doesn't explode water. Well, all of us here that has used the method
in this forum know full well that increasing the gap gives a BIGGER AND
BIGGER effect up to the max gap possible that the discharge can
break down.

I showed that a long time ago in addition to it exploding water like mad,
but specifically to show that this is different from what he is doing,
here is this video - when I open the strap up, it gets crazy big with the
booster caps.

YouTube - Water Sparkplug | Plasma Ignition| Booster Caps

I originally posted that in June 08 on youtube most most people know
my entire account was cancelled by youtube. I didn't violate anyone's
copyright because I made all my own videos. A youtube insider told me
that it was closed due to "spamming".

So Todd's system's effect gets killed when opening up the gap and it
doesn't explode water. I think claims that my method in the patent is
NOT the same.

In a few of Todd's videos, it seems he is using HV from an ignition coil
in addition to 110 volts from an inverter in parallel with the plug. Basically,
what Luc was doing in the s1r replication attempts.

Todd lists this as his "homepage"
Electric Fields and Moving Media, Stanley Meyer Explained - Heretical Builders

If Todd can show differently, I'm all ears but so far, it appears that
his circuits are closer to the one Luc posted originally with the inverter
connected to the plug, which of course has nothing to do with the
schematic on the patent in question.

[rickoff]

@$UM1 - WHY? Why do you insist of posting this on my private profile page where hardly anyone will see it?

Looks like you're not the only one to receive $UM1's message on their profile page. It showed up on mine, too, and I imagine a lot of others here have been spammed in the same way. PM's should seldom be used, and only in an appropriate manner.

Rick

[Aaron]

@Rick / @Todd Miller

Looks like you're not the only one to receive $UM1's message on their profile page. It showed up on mine, too, and I imagine a lot of others here have been spammed in the same way. PM's should seldom be used, and only in an appropriate manner.

Rick

Hi Rick,

Yes, I got a message from someone else that he posted it on their personal
profile page too, which only ensures that hardly anyone will see what he
wants everyone to see so I posted it here.

I really have no problem with him claiming what he is claiming, I don't
buy it, but I certainly want him to voice his concerns.

I asked for a specific schematic and he refuses to answer anything in
my response, refuses to show a schematic, refuses to do anything other
than claim Luc and this patent application is based on his circuit.

So I'm not sure what he's trying to accomplish by making these claims but
refusing to offer up anything to back it up. He sent me youtube video
links, I saw them and they reveal that that has nothing to do with the
patent application schematic based on my simple design.

@Todd Miller - it isn't helpful to post your complaints in people's private
forums. I understand you think you have a concern so discuss it here.
Why don't you have your teachers Tero and Chassel come here and post
their schematics as well so we can all see what you are claiming. Why
don't you do that? Why not post your own schematics as well?
I used to correspond to Tero - ask him (qiman13 username). I remember
he had a "plasma ignition". I don't remember the details, that was a few
years ago, but if it is the plasma jet ignition method, he is only copying
what has already been patented for 40 years or so. If you think different,
I suggest you actually do some research so you can see the facts.

[Mad Hornet SparkAmplifier]

Warning to anyone using the Counterfeit Blocks

Buyer be ware

[turbotrana]

From a consumers point of view:
Q. What happened to the backup service or warranty for the purchasers of the short lived Aquapulser.
A. No more company, no warranty or backup.

Q. Why should I spend $$$ on Blue Phoenix Ignition for a product that could end up the same as Aquapulser. (mad Hornet has thrown a spanna in the works now and does not seem to even have any products on the market to sell)
A. Don't spend until this matter is sorted.

There are buyer of this product out there so you better milk them now. As soon as the Chinese get hold of it you may as well forget about any patents as they wont be worth anything. Chinese will copy it, they will improve it and they will sell cheaper than it cost any US company to manufacture it.

[Aaron]

@Turbotrana

From a consumers point of view:
Q. What happened to the backup service or warranty for the purchasers of the short lived Aquapulser.
A. No more company, no warranty or backup.

Do you know this as a fact from experience or are you simply making
up an answer?

[turbotrana]

Do you know this as a fact from experience or are you simply making
up an answer?

Not fact or experience, but if Aquapulser is no longer then who is going to warrant their products. There is no legal obligation on Blue Phoenix if its a seperate legal entity. It would only be goodwill if they chose to.

[moose 53]

Aaron do you have information on who is warranting Aquapulser units. We returned two RPG 4700 units and one 1 joule unit for warranty replacement on or around 6/14/2010 . We were offered a refund but chose to wait for the new units . Now that Aquapulser is split we have not been able to get our units.

[Aaron]

@Moose

Moose, there are still good people that actually do care.

I'll skype you a message in the next few days.

[Aaron]

thread closed

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[Aaron]

Luc Choquette's fraud, lies and deceit

This thread is reposted in the public forum to act as a public record of the facts about Luc Choquette and his fraudulent claims that he is the inventor of my circuit. And you can see how him and Karthik went behind Arvind's back as posted by Arvind himself.

This is being done due to some posts about Luc Choquette in this thread and my own post on March 15, 2018 (yesterday). http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ry-system.html

Take note of Turion's posts about Luc and Luc's method of examining the 3 Battery System, etc. I made my own post to give my own testimony about Luc and his fraud, lies and deceit.

RAMSET posts in Luc's defense on that thread and I will copy it here for the record as Luc posted this in 2015 somewhere online to answer questions about why he took part in the patent that has the plasma ignition circuit, which is MY sole invention. I will respond to the lies cooked up by Luc below, but they are actually already answered in this thread.

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in 2015 [I think] Luc was asked By a member at Stefan's about this issue
his response here, [ I had seen this question at the time ,but forgot about the reply...a member here forwarded this to me today.

Luc
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Okay, I'll do my best to explain the basic events without going into too many details but I'll cover enough so those who don't know about the water spark circuit can understand.

On June 25 2008 while experimenting on plasma spark I happen to combine a high voltage of an ignition coil with a low voltage of a capacitor.
The combination of these two with a high voltage blocking diode on the capacitor created a very enhanced spark which has an even greater effect if sprayed with a fine mist of water. The effect is more light and a very load cracking sound which I thought could be a dissociation of hydrogen oxygen of the water mist.
At about 6pm EST on June 26th I started a topic on the Overunity forum and titled it: " URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE"
URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Please note the Overunity topic is dated June 27th but notice the time is 12:01am which is Berlin time, so 6 hours ahead of my Eastern Standard Time. So the information was publicly shared at 6pm EST on June 26th
Here is the 1st YouTube demo video which is correctly dated June 26th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R2fNukDCPs

It's important to know the date the information was first publicly shared and my intent.
On my first video above please listen to my message between 4:23 and 4:52 and ignore the theories I shared.
Message: what I'm doing is, I want everyone to start thinking about this (circuit) and trying to get this effect and Improve it. I'm not the best in electronics, it's not really my field. So I'm posting this so people can start working on it and get this working. So let me show you what I've got so far.

One week later on July 4th 2008, Arron of the Energetic Forum started a topic and titled it "Water Sparkplug"
Water Sparkplug

On July 13th 2008 after participants suggestions of better diodes and me also using a single pole double throw relay to charge and discharge the capacitor, the effect was much better then the first video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxnRQ7fkWtE

On September 9th 2008: Arron posted a video with Peter Lindemann demonstrating the effect of the spark which was titled: "Peter Lindemann's Replication of Arron's circuit based on Luc's (gotoluc) method"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhNtRhJ5Rw
Notice some recognition towards me in the video and title. Remember this when you read the below.

Around the beginning of April 2009, I was contacted by two individuals, one called Arvind and the other Kathik from a business they started in the US called Aquapulser.
They liked the high voltage diode blocked high current capacitor spark effect so much they decided to start a business and manufactured a ready made plug and play device so consumers could purchase. I was very happy they had done this as that would help to get it out faster and wished them the very best.
They told me they had been following the topic on each forum and from their research considered me to be the originator of the high voltage diode blocked high current capacitor spark effect.
They offered me a free sample of their device in recognition. They told me they couldn't afford to give more out because of their large start up investment which I understood.
Later on they contacted me again and suggested to patent the circuit since a bigger corporation could possibly patent it (even though it was open source) and could then prevent Aquapulser to manufacturing it.
They had a valid point as open source information is not as protected as some may think. So we had a written agreement that they can hold the patent only to prevent big corporations to use it and Aquapulser could not interfere with the open source community. Aquapulser paid for all patent and attorney costs.
Once again I wished them success and didn't ask for any profit as I admired their efforts and wanted them to have the ability to re-gain the huge expenses of the patent costs.
The patent included my name as one of the inventors along with Arvind and Karthik. This way they couldn't sell it without my consent because of the written joint ownership agreement. So even though I didn't wish to profit on Aquapulser sales, I was part owner of the patent document which secure it.
This ended up being good, because in early 2011 the two owners of Aquapulser were in disagreement. Karthik didn't agree with Arvind's new change of direction. He though Arvind was considering the sale the patent for profit and felt (rightfully so) this was not what we had agreed on.
Karthik contacted me and suggested we combine our ownership of the patent document to gain control of it and then together we could agree to dissolve it.
I had to trust Karthik's plan and be sure he would follow through once the first step was done. Karthik followed through as he promised. He also took care of all the legal details and the original patent was dissolved. However, "for some reason", it coincided Aaron found out there was a patent filed and on the Energetic Forum he started to publicly accuse me of steeling his circuit and so on.
I mostly ignored him as I knew my intent was good and was of no profit or benefit to me.
Then Aaron joined forces with Arvind and demanded a new patent be created and that there was no reason to have my name as inventor because it had nothing to do with my circuit.
However, the patent attorney did not see it the way Aaron did as I'm sure he had done some research on the first patent (before putting it together) which is now dissolved.
The patent attorney tried to reason with Aaron. However, after a few weeks and so many harassing emails from Aaron the patent attorney quit and said he would not ever get involved again unless there was a prior agreement reached.

What I didn't mention is, during the months this was going on, I was overseas in South Africa for 6 months at my travel expense and making no money helping a mission feeding and clothing the poor. So it was quite a challenge to get internet access and deal with all this fiasco.
Anyways, back to the story, Karthik said he would support me on what ever decision I made.
I was about to give it away because I just don't care for this kind of stuff but something in me said don't let this guy have his way and hold firm as inventor. In the end we all agreed to refile the patent with Aaron's name on the inventors list. This was the best I could do then to just walk away and let Arvind and Aaron file for a new Patent.

Last time Karthik and I were contacted by Arvind, he wanted us to pay for our share of the new patent. We both replied we didn't have any funds, so I don't know and don't need to know what the status is.

You be the judge of who's name should be on the patent!
Aaron's argument was the circuit the Aquapulser Team used in the patent was closer to the circuit he shared then mine. This is true as my circuit was basic and as I mentioned my electronic skills was minimal and why I did my switching by hand on the first video and 2 weeks later I used a relay. However, both circuits are based on the same effect and I think this is what the Aquapulser team had originally considered prior to the patent.

One way or the other I can tell you that profit or recognition are of no interest to me. I have never profited one cent from anything I've shared or ask for recognition and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
It's always been zero in and $1,000. out of my pocket to pay for supplies and equipment.
Also, look at any of my video's, none of them have advertising.
I have over 950,000 combined views and 2,500 subscribers. Would this suggest I'm in it to make profit?
So why don't I want profit?... because I believe profit, gain and control is what causes poverty and prevents inventions to come out that would be for the good of all.
So my thoughts and way of life is, if I don't believe in it, why should I participate in it!

For you profit oriented people. You may want to reflect on how those actions will help others. As taking more for yourself then others have is contrary to the flow of nature or the universe.
If that doesn't make you think then, tell me which person was able to bring something from this world when their end comes?
Better chances for those who have helped others will be seeding for the next then ones money piled in the bank.

Luc

PS, looks like Arvind has continued the business and I still wish him success.
Aquapulser web site: http://www.aquapulser.com/performance_ignition/
Aquapulser Videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/ecoignition/videos

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[Aaron]

[Aaron]

Luc Choquette - response to his post from 2015

So now we address Luc's response from 2015, quite a few years after the whole ordeal with the patent - my, my, my how forgetful he has become and how naive he thinks everyone is to believe his words when I have posted documented historical evidence including his own words... I have a pretty good memory and I have ridiculously large archives so I can be my own wayback machine.

"On June 25 2008 while experimenting on plasma spark I happen to combine a high voltage of an ignition coil with a low voltage of a capacitor." - Luc is lying - you can clearly see he did not combine a CAPACITOR'S LOW VOTLAGE & IGNITION COILS' HIGH VOLTAGE over the same gap until I taught him how. Before then, he only used a capacitor as the input to the primary of an ignition coil completely isolating that capacitor from ever being able to jump the gap and the only thing that jumped the gap with the high voltage spark is the inverter's rectified output. He is directly making a claim that MY invention is what he started with - he is playing on people's ignorance that don't know better and that is how he starts off his explanations.

"It's important to know the date the information was first publicly shared and my intent." - this is the method of a sociopath to reinforce their own lies as having an important element as to build credibility to it but this will only work for those who do not have the background or frame of reference for all of these ignition methods like I do - I understand the distinctions and his first timeline on June 25 is not doing what he claims, he did something different, which is in the diagram I posted before of his circuit that has a capacitor that only connects to the primary of the ignition coil after charged and the only thing that jumps the gap like I said is the rectified inverter output. His willful and wanton deceit in establishing this timeline is for him to show that his alleged invention came before anything I did, but in the last post I made on the chronology and his own post stating he updated his circuit to reflect my innovations proves the point. We can stop here and the point is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, but I aim to dismantle and expose Luc's sociopathic, pathological lies.

"One week later on July 4th 2008, Arron of the Energetic Forum started a topic and titled it "Water Sparkplug." What he doesn't tell everyone is that the circuit I posted was different than what he previously posted - I already made that point and even backed it with Luc's own words!

"On September 9th 2008: Arron posted a video with Peter Lindemann demonstrating the effect of the spark which was titled: "Peter Lindemann's Replication of Arron's circuit based on Luc's (gotoluc) method" - again, I called it Gotoluc's method even though the circuit was better because it was simply out of respect for his own contributions, which were different than mine and he didn't even understand how his circuit worked. He admitted that. Peter's replications was simply using an automated 555 circuit to charge a cap, disconnect it from a power source and then drop it to the primary of an ignition coil. Why was this so important? The very point was to disprove Luc and other people's claims that the inverter was necessary. That is why Luc admitted in his own words that the capacitor was the only thing necessary!!!




"Notice some recognition towards me in the video and title. " - Like I said, it was a sign of respect. His experiments inspired me even though he didn't understand his own circuit and it was already established that Luc and others claimed the inverter was responsible for the plasma bursts - I told them it wasn't and knew how to prove it.

To disprove Luc and other's claims that the inverter was responsible for the plasma - as I said, they didn't understand how it worked so I proved it to them. The date of the video is NOT when I originally posted it, which was way before. YouTube yanked my entire original YouTube account. I knew someone with a friend that worked at YouTube and they looked into it and the reason stated was for spamming, which was completely bogus. They yanked everything! Anyway, this video is the genesis of my invention of using a cap simultaneously as the ignition coil primary power source AND the low voltage source that jumps the gap:

[VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnYstUyBqlQ[/VIDEO]

With all the plasma jet ignition systems, they had a separate cap charging circuit to charge a separate cap that would be in parallel with the gap through a hv diode. Why go through the trouble and expense of having to manufacture completely separate cap charging module when you can take any off the shelf cdi/msd, add the diodes and you got it! (It's not profitable so they have to create something that isn't necessary to sell.)

"I'm not the best in electronics, it's not really my field. " - phony attempt at being humble since the fire is lit under him but go to the 3 battery thread and you can see that he actually considers himself to be highly advanced in electronics and claims to know enough to debunk something when in fact he is a charlatan and clown and his greatest accomplishments are stolen IP from other people - hence this entire ordeal.

"They liked the high voltage diode blocked high current capacitor spark effect so much they decided to start a business and manufactured a ready made plug and play device so consumers could purchase. I was very happy they had done this as that would help to get it out faster and wished them the very best.
They told me they had been following the topic on each forum and from their research considered me to be the originator of the high voltage diode blocked high current capacitor spark effect." - this is nothing but a lie. Karthik even states that the method used by Aquapulser and Ecoignition was patented years ago and is public domain - just like the patent diagrams I showed in the last post. How could they consider Luc the inventor of this effect when Karthik defends their use of old lapsed public domain patents of the same effect? They didn't!

The distinction that Luc is not forthcoming with is that 1) they never considered him the inventor of the basic plasma effect with a capacitor discharging through a diode over a gap - that has been patented for many years already. 2) the TRUTH is that they asked him who invented the circuit that I INVENTED and taught to Luc and everyone else and he claimed he was the one that came up with it.

Ahem....

[Aaron]

Luc Choquette - response to his post 2

"Once again I wished them success and didn't ask for any profit." - I have emails where Luc is fighting for more of a percentage than he deserved. He deserved ZERO since he had nothing to do with my innovation so you can see that even though it was on the table between all 4 of us that he wasn't the inventor, he wanted MORE and MORE and MORE. Simply, he is a liar and the entire facade that he has no interest in money or profit is a part of his front - that is what sociopath's do.

"Karthik contacted me and suggested we combine our ownership of the patent document to gain control of it and then together we could agree to dissolve it. I had to trust Karthik's plan and be sure he would follow through once the first step was done. Karthik followed through as he promised. He also took care of all the legal details and the original patent was dissolved." - Karthik followed through? This is amazing how Luc's spins the fact that they co-conspired to close Ecoignition illegally without Arvind's knowledge or consent. This is what sociopaths do - there is no other way to put it and for Luc to put this spin on what really happens shows the level to which he will stoop in order to save face.

"However, "for some reason", it coincided Aaron found out there was a patent filed and on the Energetic Forum he started to publicly accuse me of steeling his circuit and so on." - I already open sourced my work on it for the world to see. I wanted to write a book that would compile everything in one place that would be a simple A to Z walk through. If people wanted it for free, go ahead - look through the Water Sparkplug thread and anyone can do their own filtering. Otherwise, they can buy my book and get everything in one simple condensed version that will save people time and money. I wanted to give a dedication to Luc's contributions so I searched google for his name to make sure I spelled his last name right and the first thing that came up was a patent application with MY circuit and Luc's name on it!!!

"I mostly ignored him as I knew my intent was good and was of no profit or benefit to me." - The way of the psychopath, justify, justify, justify one's own actions. He outright lies that he was the inventor of my circuit - yet he claims he has such a benevolent reason and what you notice is he always brings up how he isn't in it for the profit, etc. What I see is that those who scream the loudest about how honest they are, how unselfish they are, how they're not in it for the money, etc. are actually the biggest liars and cons around. ie - Kevin Spacy in his rants about sexual abuse when he all along he is the most prolific violator of them all! Luc is like this with his lies and phony "I want to save the world and don't want anything in return." etc. The truth is that anyone who is charitable in their heart will never tell anyone about it - they will simply do it and will not just be quiet about it, they will keep it secret.

"Then Aaron joined forces with Arvind and demanded a new patent be created and that there was no reason to have my name as inventor because it had nothing to do with my circuit." - I didn't join forces with Arvind. I equally jumped on Arvind, Karthik and Luc. It was Arvind who was the only level-headed person who could communicate reasonably in return. He informed me the patent had 3 inventions - MY circuit, the ionization detection circuit and the coil on plug adapter with built in diode. At that point, I examined the whole patent in detail and determined that Arvind and Karthik should be on the patent for their own inventions, I should be on it for my circuit because if it is going to get patented, I might as well be the rightful inventor on document and Luc should be kicked off since he had nothing to do with the three inventions.

"However, the patent attorney did not see it the way Aaron did as I'm sure he had done some research on the first patent (before putting it together) which is now dissolved. The patent attorney tried to reason with Aaron. However, after a few weeks and so many harassing emails from Aaron the patent attorney quit and said he would not ever get involved again unless there was a prior agreement reached." - this attorney was fully aware that he had liability because he did NOT do his due diligence. If he had, he would have read the #1 most trafficked thread on the subject, the Water Sparkplug thread, which documented the entire history of my circuit development. Again, you have Luc's post here showing that he later modified his circuit according to what I taught him. Luc is also lying about what the patent attorney did. He complied with my demands and so did everyone else - they signed the papers to put me on as an inventor. Luc remained on the patent because that was a totally separate issue that required more paperwork and more money, which we weren't prepared to spend at the time. AFTER all of this was done, THEN the attorney said he didn't want to be involved. What is the proof of this? Simple, my name is on the patent proving my original demands were complied with.

Like I said in the other thread, Luc finally asked to be removed from the patent. It is predictable he will lie and say that it is because it is too much trouble, he did what he could, he doesn't want to be involved in the negative energy, etc. and a bunch of other lies to make himself look like the victim, but there is more than one person that has the series of emails - here is my skype conversation with Arvind:

[10/2/2013 6:46:00 PM] Aaron Murakami: Arvind, what is the patent status?
[10/2/2013 6:46:12 PM] Arvind: its filed
[10/2/2013 6:46:16 PM] Arvind: got the confirmation
[10/2/2013 6:46:17 PM] Arvind: mail
[10/2/2013 6:46:32 PM] Arvind: status is issued
[10/2/2013 6:46:44 PM] Arvind: so congratulations
[10/2/2013 6:47:07 PM] Aaron Murakami: what is the patent #? Can you email me the documents from them?
[10/2/2013 6:47:20 PM] Arvind: will need to scan it, will do it tomorrow
[10/2/2013 6:47:57 PM] Aaron Murakami: ok cool - also we need to consider removing Luc, since that was his last request. That is an advantage to us all. Removing him from the assignment that is.

The advantage I mention is that with equal and undivided rights to the patent IP as equal owners, Karthik can have full ownership of his "invention", which may be the coil on plug, Arvind can have full rights to the ionization detection circuit and I can have full rights to my own circuit - if we agree to that in a contract. Until then, Karthik continued to use Luc as a pawn in his own game against Arvind and Luc was all the willing as a co-conspirator who illegally closed Ecoignition behind Arvind's back. So put these actions by Luc into the context of his entire online history of acting like he is only for humanity, doesn't want money, recognition, etc. when in fact, he is a recognition hound and his humanitarian efforts are always simply leveraged in order to gain favor by others.

NOTE: "since that was his last request." What request? Luc's request to be removed from the patent since it got to the point that it was pathetic for him to insist that he had any rights to it anymore. Luc was defeated the simple fact that I overwhelmed them all with so many facts, history and documentation that he looked like a fool to have ever claimed to be the inventor at all.

"I was overseas in South Africa for 6 months at my travel expense and making no money helping a mission feeding and clothing the poor. So it was quite a challenge to get internet access and deal with all this fiasco." - What kind of person uses their charitable work publicly as an excuse or to gain sympathy or as a reason for this or that? Someone who has no charity in their heart but only for the sake of vanity to show off to others - a quintessential hypocrite.

And RAMSET doesn't help Luc when posting about Luc or Luc's response - he shows that Luc has a long history of wearing his humanitarian efforts on his shoulder like a badge so loudly that everyone around him sees it like a disco ball in a dance club. RAMSET - your post has the opposite affect from what you intend.

Matthew 6:1-4 “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. "