Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[lessismore]

DC Transmission Line II (5-?)

Wow, the previous post sure puts my puny efforts in perspective.

Dec. 3 - Since no one has yet pointed out my lapses I will fix them here in italics.Where C is the capacitance in farads per cm and L1 is inductance external to the conductors in henrys per cmv is the velocity of light in cm per second. You can calculate L from C and C from L:



Starting from the dielectric and magnetic energy of the transmission line circuit. Length is the length of the line in cm.



The force is the change in energy with respect to changes in s. Note that s being measured in a direction parallel to the direction of the force. Set the sum of the forces to zero.



The Lengths cancel out. Next substitute L for C and apply chain rule. The derivatives of L will cancel out. Then substitute C for L.



Taking the square root of both sides:



which has just been shown to be the same ratio of e to i which causes the magnetic and dielectric forces to balance.

[Kokomoj0]

I have questions but its going to take a bit of time for me to digest that post so I certainly hope you stick around for a while.

Meantime I do not understand how one can tune to both cycle-decibels and cycles per second at the same time to produce a second order of tuning in the same coil since each travel at different speeds/distances?

Also I understand that we have 3 circulating paths, or at least that is what I think I understand

I also took the liberty to go to the other site and hope no one objects to my posting the 160 meter posting you made here too as being an old antenna builder I have interests there as well. Either way any objections I will remove it.

Build your own - 160 Meter Ham Band Alexanderson Antenna In 1919 in Bolinas, CA the United States Navy commissioned Ernst Alexanderson of General Electric to adapt the existing Marconi antenna into a scalar transmission network for VLF communications. The operating frequency was 18.6 KC. A 100:1 scale model operates on 1860 KC, the 160 meter ham band. This Alexanderson model could be the first ham radio non-electromagnetic communication system. As of yet, this has not been built and tested. Possibly transmitting between a pair, resulting in space scalar communications, for the first time. Theoretically no time delay, and very little attenuation. Try it and see.

Downloads :: AMERICAN MARCONI FOUNDATION
Alexanderson Antenna System at a scale of 1 : 100 (Second item down on the page)

System for the Transmission and Reception of Telluric electric waves (5th item down on the page)

Later will come the 160 meter ham band Tesla magnifying transmitter.
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ard&aq=f&aql=f

Theory of Wireless Power by E. P. Dollard.

73 DE N6KPH

[madhatter]

Eric, If I understand you correctly you're right that there is missing units and the equations are incomplete. the fields are constantly being reduced to an singularity of a line! this constant 'collapse' is so inaccurate it gives rise to the many body problem and the HUP principal.

What I can't find digging thru the works of Steinmetz, Heaviside, Maxwell, etc.. is a clear definition of an electron, it's currently a subunit of a field that is at best an nebulous unit.

The monopole is correct, how it gets transformed into a dipole upon moving from the electron to an electron cloud is beyond me. treated at the singular level it's a monopole with very interesting results, an up/down spin with a magnetic g factor that's twice the originally calculated results, well no wonder they're treating it as a point particle orbital with a collapse vs a uniform field.

How I see it so far....
Take a spherical electromagnetic field of n size and remove everything inside this space, we will treat it as a perfect vacuum. Inside this magnetic field is simply a lower bound energy level of the electrostatic field to the boundary layer of the magnetic field, ignoring edge sheath effects. taking this 'pure' electrostatic field of low potential of say a single electron can be still be of any size space as the electron is a field and not tangible particle. this space is now the electron field potential, so any n space is the electrostatic field potential. an electron is a monopole, in this space is a field of monopole energy, it's distribution may be uniform or of uneven potential. the propagation or velocity of a light wave thru this space will be dependent upon the potential in that electrostatic field space, thus there is no fixed velocity or limit of wave propagation as it is dependent upon the electrostatic field potential.

This is a simply overview and carries some complex features of what the electrostatic field potential is and it's wave functions. I'm still working out the time equation so it's not circular in reference. Energy to mass is also missing in this as mass is already an energy state bound by it's wave function and adding mass via an increase in velocity per relativity would change the very nature of the wave function and the mass itself violating the basic premiss of the electrostatic field. it's simply not possible.

This may be of no use to anyone here and not relevant directly to Eric's work, but it flies in the face of relativity as it is not holding to the constant C or energy matter conversion.

[Kokomoj0]

Eric, If I understand you correctly you're right that there is missing units and the equations are incomplete. the fields are constantly being reduced to an singularity of a line! this constant 'collapse' is so inaccurate it gives rise to the many body problem and the HUP principal.

What I can't find digging thru the works of Steinmetz, Heaviside, Maxwell, etc.. is a clear definition of an electron, it's currently a subunit of a field that is at best an nebulous unit.

The monopole is correct, how it gets transformed into a dipole upon moving from the electron to an electron cloud is beyond me. treated at the singular level it's a monopole with very interesting results, an up/down spin with a magnetic g factor that's twice the originally calculated results, well no wonder they're treating it as a point particle orbital with a collapse vs a uniform field.

How I see it so far....
Take a spherical electromagnetic field of n size and remove everything inside this space, we will treat it as a perfect vacuum. Inside this magnetic field is simply a lower bound energy level of the electrostatic field to the boundary layer of the magnetic field, ignoring edge sheath effects. taking this 'pure' electrostatic field of low potential of say a single electron can be still be of any size space as the electron is a field and not tangible particle. this space is now the electron field potential, so any n space is the electrostatic field potential. an electron is a monopole, in this space is a field of monopole energy, it's distribution may be uniform or of uneven potential. the propagation or velocity of a light wave thru this space will be dependent upon the potential in that electrostatic field space, thus there is no fixed velocity or limit of wave propagation as it is dependent upon the electrostatic field potential.

This is a simply overview and carries some complex features of what the electrostatic field potential is and it's wave functions. I'm still working out the time equation so it's not circular in reference. Energy to mass is also missing in this as mass is already an energy state bound by it's wave function and adding mass via an increase in velocity per relativity would change the very nature of the wave function and the mass itself violating the basic premiss of the electrostatic field. it's simply not possible.

This may be of no use to anyone here and not relevant directly to Eric's work, but it flies in the face of relativity as it is not holding to the constant C or energy matter conversion.

do you by any chance have any references we can study?

[madhatter]

do you by any chance have any references we can study?

Not sure where to start as that post is mainly my unpolished theory. It's a result of many yrs of study in quantum physics and quantum electrodynamics. The bane of Eric's posts on electricity. I'm not sure what level of physics Eric has studied over the yrs. There are some use full things within the quantum framework as it's mostly an unknown and this provides some excellent contradictions to relativity. If one can keep their head straight and not fall into a hard set believe on what is in actuality an unproven theory, there is much to be taken from it to support the fact that Einsteins relativity isn't correct.

It would be very difficult to suggest reference material on a subject that is so confusing as the quantum scale that would be useful. The bulk of the material holds fast to an interpretation that supports relativity under transformation, when in reality there are many interpretations and it goes all the way back to Schrodinger and lectures by Louis De Broglie who has some of the various interpretations by physicists around the early 1900's.

I'll see if I can post up excerpts from the lectures in a bit.

because the math born out of relativity is very close to experimental results it is held as a true working theory, this also opens the debate over falsifiability of SR due to it's constraints. what needs not be forgotten is that the experimental results are predicated by the math, this means that results will always correlate to the theory unless the theory changes and is yet another debatable point. Within relativity you end up with circular logic and this will always result in a draw and a headache.

[madhatter]

here's a good read:
A Dissident View of Relativity Theory by William H. Cantrell, Ph.D.

[t-rex]

[madhatter]

here's an excellent article, it also may be useful to the moon bounce experiment. note though that results c+V for light experiments are known and suppressed actively.

http://users.navi.net/~rsc/physics/wallace/farce.txt

[skaght]

Electrical Soliton wave?

So is a longitudinal EM wave a soliton? There are articles describing how to build soliton non-linear oscillators. Are these devices producing longitudinal waves or are solitons something altogether different?

see:

http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~donhee/so_ims.pdf

[Kokomoj0]

this looks like a replication of the EPD pancake tesla coil.

has the flat strap for good impulse response and he tunes them in phase.

Not sure if this demonstrates DC but I did notice there were no arcs in the bulb, just a hot cathode from what I can tell.

This may turn out interesting.

Tesla Wireless Power Transmission, Part 2 - YouTube

he is going to tune it to the shulman resonance which I am not sure is proper tuning. I thought proper was when you could crank the fr up to pi/2*c and get another resonant point.

So it appears to be a replica but may not be performing as one????

[t-rex]

(1) Coulomb, Psi, substantial

Farad, C, metrical

Volt, e, compound, substantial and metrical.

(2) Weber, Phi, substantial

Henry, L, metrical

Ampere, I, compound, substantial and metrical

(3) Volt per Centimeter, d

(4) Ampere per Centimeter, m

(a) Self Inductance in Henry, L

(b) Self Capacitance in Farad, C

(II) The Magneto-Dielectric co-efficients;

(a) Mutual Inductance, in Per Henry, M

(b) Mutual Capacitance, in Per Farad, K

And for the Law of Dielectric Proportion,
The gradients of the Inductance and the Capacitance, are given as, for the magnetic,

(9) Henry per Centimeter, or Mu,

And for the dielectric,

(10) Farad per Centimeter, or Epsilon.

Hereby taking the Inductance gradient, Mu, and the Capacitance gradient, Epsilon, and substituting these into the Law of Magnetic Proportion and the Law of Dielectric Proportion, respectively, the product of the resulting magnetic and dielectric relations gives
Equals
Substituting the following relations
And substituting (12) and (13) into (11) gives
Since it is that
Substituting (15) into (14) and canceling the Plancks, produces the dimensional relation

(16) Per Centimeter Square

Equals

Rearranging this relation, the product (11) gives the definitive metrical dimensional relation

(17) Gamma Square

Equals

Second Square per Centimeter Square

Or thus

(17a) Gamma Square, or one over Velocity Square

[Kokomoj0]

So I read that, that the aether then would have a specific density that may be considered as a frictional element to movement like water to a boat, air to a bullet.

So with the presumption nothing can move without friction it stands to reason that the aether has some hysteresis effect on induction, as both magnetic lines of force and electric corpuscles polarize it through induction, c in the case of magnetiic induction and pi/2*c in the case of dielectric induction. is that possible or must it be independent or external to the boundary medium?

For the difference in speed I presume we can make an analogy to a razor sharp slender boat-tail bullet (dielectric induction) moving through water versus a flat nose bullet (magnetic induction), through water, the latter as quadrature has more frictional loading.

Now we can also shoot a bullet through water, air and outer space and (by a very loose widely expansive analogy) generically label those mediums a state of aether, each having a different frictional loading dependent on what is being accelerated through it, which begs the question just how many states of aether are possible.

It would appear that if we are looking toward the lumped sum, that any design for LMD transmission would start with maximizing the impulse response, first and foremost, as the main design criteria, and that the terms LC would be based on the permissivity with respect to the desired (loading) capacity, of the sum of the series and system capacitance, whereas the inductance serves mainly as a required element to create the boundary for minimizing losses, the self resonant pump, and provide for the impedance matching function to manage and produce an ideal or maximized impulse transfer and electrostatic to current conversion between mediums? That is a rather oversimplification and touches on the hilites but is this close for horseshoes throw. . . point to start?

So presuming that is correct, proper design, application etc is yet another story completely that I have far more questions than answers on where to begin.

Then of course there is monopole versus dipole, which is very hard to wrap my brain around as it has the appearance to remove the duality concept that literally everything in the universe is based on.

[lessismore]

DC Transmission Line II (6 of ?)

So do the computed Inductance and Capacitance from part 1 give the same answer as part 4 when plugged into equation for characteristic impedance?



Close, but not as good as I would have expected.

The equation used for L was:



The term

is the inductance from the magnetic flux inside the conductor. Notice when the magnetic force was being computed in part 2 that this term dropped out of the calculation. The term does not cause L to vary as s varies so it does not contribute to the magnetic force. What happens when this term is left out of the L calculation?



Which does give 645KV for a 1000A current.

This is a fair match! But it also demonstrates that I have assumed that the transmission line is lossless.

[t-rex]

[Raui]

Great to hear from you Eric. Here are the references for the above;
Explosion at the Shipyard References.zip
Travelling Waves on Transmission Systems
Electromagnetic Theory Volume 3

Sorry everyone for my absence, I'm very busy trying to get the house finished off with my father because the majority of the family is coming over from NZ for new years. I'll probably be absent for at least 2 weeks but I'll pop in as much as I can.

Raui

PS: Lessismore I had a quick look at your equations and I think that might be it but I'll let Eric be the judge