Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[Pinwheel]

I disagree at this point. (surprise! lol)

...any work others may add to it. I have to think about this further, but the idea is that anyone is free to copy the material and improve on it freely for non-commercial purposes, but such that a printed version can be made that still includes those voluntary additions...

This, quite easily I think, set's the stage for Eric's work to become hijacked by whatever lunatic want's to parasitically (intentionally or not) attach his nonsense to Eric's work.

For example: I have a large following of superstitious religious zealots that think that my interpretation of 11 dimensional quantum string theory means that aliens bla bla bla. I also have a popular show on the History channel. If I were to find some loose connection to EPD's work, via misinterpretation or whatever, then I could just piggyback my nonsense onto the back of Eric's paper leading thousands into a erroneous theory by hijacking EPD's authority.

I don't like the idea that any nutjob can come in and take EPD's work and do whatever and and up watering it down or any other "unintended" consequence.

[Pinwheel]

So then what I'm thinking is licence to freely distribute, but not to modify, or add to. That way you can always keep modified versions to be known as just that - modified.

Because if I can add to a paper and distribute it then what keeps me from taking away from a paper? In that sense this is different than a linux distro. With linux you can add to the thing to try and make it better, or take away from a thing and make it better. If you do that with EPD's stuff then you could (most likely will) end up being in the same boat we already currently find ourselves in.

IE: it is suggested that we currently have a distorted view of electricity, partially due to erroneous additional info about the nature of electrons. Or, we have a limited understanding of Tesla circuitry due, in part, to our ignorance (lack of info, or info taken away) of the Displacement current and the dielectric field.

People shouldn't be able to add to or take away from Eric's stuff and then perpetrate that it's legit. They should do their own stuff, according to whatever, and then cite his work which then could be referenced and undistorted and reliable.

[john_g]

Light and Electricity

Hi All

I came across this article about Light and Electricity / dielectricty, which makes a few references to Eric, so may be helpful background reading?

True Nature of Light & Electricity

Regards
John

[lamare]

So then what I'm thinking is licence to freely distribute, but not to modify, or add to. That way you can always keep modified versions to be known as just that - modified.

Because if I can add to a paper and distribute it then what keeps me from taking away from a paper? In that sense this is different than a linux distro. With linux you can add to the thing to try and make it better, or take away from a thing and make it better. If you do that with EPD's stuff then you could (most likely will) end up being in the same boat we already currently find ourselves in.

IE: it is suggested that we currently have a distorted view of electricity, partially due to erroneous additional info about the nature of electrons. Or, we have a limited understanding of Tesla circuitry due, in part, to our ignorance (lack of info, or info taken away) of the Displacement current and the dielectric field.

People shouldn't be able to add to or take away from Eric's stuff and then perpetrate that it's legit. They should do their own stuff, according to whatever, and then cite his work which then could be referenced and undistorted and reliable.

Good points. Creative Commons licenses come in a few different tastes:
Choose a License

This one may be the most suitable:
Creative Commons — Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported — CC BY-NC-ND 3.0


The reason I thought about being able to make derivative works is because I hope to get other people involved with the digitization process. For example, it would be very nice if some people were prepared to re-draw the pictures and we should be legally allowed to include those in the printed version I hope we can realise if enough people participate in the process, so Eric can finally make some money of his work.

So, the idea is to use freely distributable digital copies on one hand to distribute the information contained in the works, and on the other hand use it as an advertizing tool to sell a paper version (or versions) at some point in the future in order to generate some income for Eric.

Coming to think of it, it is not necessary to allow derivative works of the "official" completed pdf's (or whatever format), as long as the people that are willing to help agree that all commercial rights to their contributions go to Eric. Or something in that direction.

So, the idea is to setup a separate website for this project, where people can subscribe to and contribute to. So, all we need is to make sure that the people that subscribe formally agree to give Eric the commercial rights to all contributions they make to the website.

One of the questions is what would be the best collaboration tool to put on such a website. I am currently working with PmWiki, which is very flexible and there is a module that allows you to enable subscriptions with email verification. It also has a module that allows you to enter latex math formulas, which I have currently enabled at my wiki. It also allows attachments of files, such as images, etc. So, as far as editing goes, I think this is a very useful tool.

However, I have no idea what it would take to convert the pages on the wiki into a decent printed version, which could for example be published trough Self Publishing, Book Printing & eBook Publishing | Lulu.com . I would like to avoid hand-editing as much as possible. A quick look at the PmWiki "cookbook" suggests there is an easy solution: PmWiki | Cookbook / PublishPDF. However, it may very well be that this module does not like the math module, so that would have to be tested.

So far, so good.

Another point is how to make sure that any money that is being made with printed versions, and I would really like to see that happen, really goes to Eric and not to someone else.

My idea would be to ask the board of "Vrijschrift.org" foundation, of which I am a board member, to take care of managing any funds that result from the sale of printed versions and to make sure Eric gets his money:

https://scriptumlibre.org/About%20ScriptumLibre

ScriptumLibre.org Foundation is the international branch of the Dutch "Stichting Vrijschrift.org". ScriptumLibre creates awareness about the economic and social meaning of free knowledge and culture for our society. See our Objectives page for more information.

https://scriptumlibre.org/Objectives

ScriptumLibre works on creating awareness of the economic and social meaning of free knowledge and culture for our society. ScriptumLibre fulfills a protecting and promoting role. On the one hand free information ensures more competition and better market working because monopoly shaping is reduced. On the other hand, free knowledge and free culture offer unhindered access to that information, and that serves the development of mankind directly. Moreover ScriptumLibre is concerned about the erosion of privacy by legislators. ScriptumLibre cooperates internationally with the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure, Free Software Foundation Europe, Project Gutenberg, European Digital Rights and a lot of other organisations.

This foundation also manages the support fund for Brenno De Winter, a Dutch IT journalist that came into trouble while investigating the security leaks in the Dutch "OV Chipkaart", a digital access control system for public transport. See for example: Dutch reporter won't be charged for transit card fraud | InSecurity Complex - CNET News

Since Vrijschrift also hosts projects that fall within the objectives, I have already asked the board if Vrijschrift would be prepared to host a site for Eric, but we have to wait what the other board members think of this idea. I hope they agree to hosting as well as to manage a fund for Eric should we get that far, because that way we can concentrate on getting the digitization work done and won't have to worry about legal issues and/or making sure Eric gets his money if they project is as succesfull as I hope it will be.

So, this is what I'm thinking about. Any comments and feedback is welcome, of course. All I want is to do the right thing for everyone, including Eric.

[h2ocommuter]

Its not necessarily Greek as in Tesla but enjoy nonetheless

Please forgive me for wandering off course so far, I must to let you know I am still in the hunt no matter how far it looks I have strayed....

Please enjoy 2 links
Video The electrical engineer "in the Nicola Tesla folder"

Zane

[Sputins]

wearing the stupid hat

I have a D.C. transmission line, the conductors are 2 inches in
diameter, spacing is 18 feet. How many ounces of force are developed
upon a 600 foot span of this line, for the following;
1. 1000 ampere line current.
2. For 1000 KV line potential?
I am waiting.

Tentative Answer:
I know I will be made to wear the stupid hat and have to stand in the corner. However considering the above problem, of how many ounces of force are developed, I would tentatively and cautiously answer that the are no ounces of force developed.

However there would certainly be an inductance component and a capacitance component of the transmission line. However since there is 1000M Watts of electrical activity Q, there are certainly a large amount of energy involved, which suggests to me that my answer is completely wrong?

As here Eric said

[john_g]

[mklimesh]

H2ocommuter

Fantastic find shown in you video – well jealous!

Regards

John

***
I agree, what a score!

Mike Klimesh

[boguslaw]

***
I agree, what a score!

Mike Klimesh

Wow! Great! What does the plate on device say ?

[vrand]

Wow! Great! What does the plate on device say ?

Great find! Let us know when you power it up!
Cheers Mike

[t-rex]

[Farmhand]

Please forgive me for wandering off course so far, I must to let you know I am still in the hunt no matter how far it looks I have strayed....

Please enjoy 2 links
Video The electrical engineer "in the Nicola Tesla folder"

Zane

Hi h2ocommuter, I'm not sure of what the motor/generator that you have will
output, but you're description of what is shown in the drawing is wrong.

Turning the page to the right so the generator is at the top as it is in you're video.

The left side is AC (clearly marked A) and the right side is DC (clearly marked D),
This is further confirmed by the way coils are excited directly by the currents
on the left side (AC). It's all explained in the text, so don't believe me.

This is a plan showing how currents of high frequency and potential can be
obtained from a DC generator or a AC generator of low frequency. The DC
generators on the right show that the main generator is likely a DC generator
as well having the input chopped by commutator the output can be AC by the
looks of it.

I think what you have is an induction motor or generator. I think currents can
be taken from the armature when it is used to generate and DC is supplied to
the armature when used as a motor, I think but I cannot be certain on that
point. But the Tesla drawing is self explanatory.

Congrats on the pickup.

Cheers

[h2ocommuter]

gulp: oh; just a bit excited the words are correct enough.

Hi h2ocommuter,
Congrats on the pickup.

Cheers

Thank you so much. Thank you all for the good reguards.
Oh I have a good grip the book is very well written indeed.

@ everyone, Take the time to Copy everything Eric posts because nowhere in this world will this information ever flow from another persons lips. unless we all get this information documented and varified and take it to the students of the world. grab it while you can.



Zane Muckey

[t-rex]

[madhatter]

If I'm not mistaken the IV - Fourth order space: would be non communicative. with vanishing scalar fields. hence the inability to visualize a dimension outside of ours. We can measure and see the effects of such a thing, though it may make no sense, similar to 2D world watching two circles merge into one while in 3D space it's two spheres in phase moving in thru 2D plane, if one of the spheres orbited the other it would look truly strange to 2D world. the point being 2D would not have anyway to visualize the 3D world that is responsible for what they see.

I noticed that the quaternion multiplication table shows this non commutative property and that is lost with the vector notation since it is commutative.

Eric, I applaud your efforts. This is no doubt a difficult msg to convey when dealing with spacial units and scalar fields that are dimensionless. I may very well be wrong here, I think that the proper equations will show the 'effect' of the scalar field and taking notice of how it is derived and can be manipulated will be key to understanding the nature of electricity and the universe.

There is notable progress being done with spherical harmonics and wave functions as computational power and graphics programs have progressed. although it's being used as a 3D spacial tool it can be manipulated to show the effect of the 4D scalar field on the wave function. Though this hasn't been done, I have taken the task of working thru the eq to do this. to say it's not easy is a massive understatement. fortunately I have the associated graphic math programs for just this task, side effect of business work.