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  • Thoughts on HV to LV Conversion

    Smokey,

    The best bet for your setup, from my inexperienced understanding, is to use an air core step down transformer for "DC to DC conversion" and then use your favorite inverter topology to output at your desired voltage and frequency for AC use.

    This web page by "Dr. Whodini" has a basic HV down converter where he uses spark-gap (replace with your thyratron) to transformer then to rectifier and finally to the integration cap for DC, simple and effective but most likely not all that efficient.

    Just some thoughts,

    Garrett M

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    • OU Devices

      Eric,
      Thanks.
      16th Order Versor is another one of my accidental discoveries in a Caduceus Coil device made from back to back TV neck Ferrites where the windings cross at an angle of 22.5ยบ and just another project awaiting time.
      This device gave 'cold' and had no problem lighting Neons with very little input but had no idea then of how or why.

      Garrettm4,
      Yes, had seen that but did not associate it with downconverting and will review now that you have brought it back up, Thanks.

      The Spark Gap made the best discharge device but so unreliable.
      Tried many Vacuum Tubes in the hope that I would find one that discharged consistently with space charge build up like in voltage regulators but not so.
      Can see here I need greater experiment experience with Vacuum Tubes.
      Great maintainer, not so hot at design.

      Integrated Capacitor:
      Have assembled and reads 1396pF which was not a bad guess for instinct where I was aiming for about 1500.
      6 x 6 plates 4" x 4".
      Fixing in place now but not quite as originally designed and will leave that as an option.

      Anybody interested in making their own High Voltage whatever including Plate Capacitors/Condensers, this may be of assistance:

      T.C.B.A. - Tesla Coil Builders Association - Browse All Issues

      Smokey

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      • Request for information

        Originally posted by Nhopa View Post
        The tuning setup for secondary coil shows a test coil of 1 turn - 50 Ohms and 3 turns of 500 Ohms, so what is this test coil and how to make it?
        Does anyone knows, beside Eric, how to do the tuning of the secondary coil?
        If someone knows, please share the info, thank you.

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        • Originally posted by T-rex View Post
          ...The Caduceus Coil is as drawn in diagram, the the polarity dots, two coils wound opposite upon each other. Van Tassle says the wires of the conjugate coils should cross at 22.5 degrees. A 16th order versor is an important factor underlining all of George Van Tassle's efforts. Also his relatives claim that a second wife Doris killed George, and later she was drugged to help get the Integratron away from Lockwood.

          73 DE N6KPH
          Mr. Dollard, may I ask why exactly 22.5 degrees?

          I also saw that the Caduceus Coil also played an important role in the life of another contactee named Wilbert B. Smith. Would there be any connection between Smith and Van Tassel?

          Cousin Itt

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          • Un-released Writtings

            Mr. Dollard,

            I came across an article written by Tom Brown about yourself and your public efforts. I was startled when I read "Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research". Is this article correct? If so, and if you want to publish them, I would be more than happy to help in any way I could. Although, I would understand if you didn't want to release them due to your personal situation, as of late.


            The Work Of Eric Dollard
            by Tom Brown 09-09-1988

            Eric Dollard is a scientist of the type found in America around the turn of the century. He is an electrical engineer of the old school relying on experience with equipment rather than acceptance of mathematical considerations. He has studied the works of Nikola Tesla and Charles Proteus Steinmetz extensively and has applied their principles to his research. He has advanced the mathematical works of the early electrical pioneers to the stage of pragmatic industrial engineering. This was only possible by bypassing all modern relativistic theories and concepts of electrons flowing through wires, and instead maintaining the ether theories from which modern electrical equipment originally emerged. Eric's work is a direct continuation of the works of Tesla, Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, Philo Farnsworth II, and other energy pioneers whose work can be reproduced and used.

            Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research. Five of these notebooks have been published by Borderland Sciences Research Foundation: Condensed Intro To Tesla Transformers; Dielectric & Magnetic Discharges In Electrical Windings; Symbolic Representation of Alternating Electric Waves; Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave (In Time); and The Theory of Wireless Power. These books are all practical and engineering oriented.

            The Alternating Electric Waves paper, presenting Eric's Four Quadrant Theory of Electricity, was written after his discovery of how to generate excess magnetizing power in an industrial situation (using synchronous motors in a huge shipyard) and make the KVAR (Kilo Volt Amperes Reactive) meter turn backwards. Eric discovered that these industrial meters are pinned so that they will not turn backwards, but they can be stopped, creating readily realizable savings for the industrialist.

            Further development of Eric's ideas has been presented at the U.S.P.A. Conference in 1987 in his talk, Representations of Electric Induction, which also included a demonstration of the Tesla One-Wire Transmission of Electricity. The One-Wire Electric Transmission has direct commercial applications in the realm of real full spectrum incandescent lighting, which could be used in operating rooms, highway lighting, schoolrooms, offices, etc.

            In Eric's talk at the 1988 International Tesla Symposium he presented the engineering mathematics to continue work on Tesla's oscillating coils while shedding the misconceptions attached by modern physics which have brought real research into Tesla to a dead halt. The engineering mathematics developed by Eric will allow researchers to manufacture coils with practical uses rather than just making sparks.

            The broadcasting of electricity, distortion free worldwide radio transmission, and single element full-spectrum incandescent lamps are just a few of the spinoffs taken from the realm of abstraction and brought to the reality of the lab bench by Eric's work, but perhaps the most commercial of all is what Eric terms, "The Ultimate Sound System". Eric has developed the principle and the first prototypes of distortion free audio amplification. This discovery, if properly applied, has the potential to revolutionize the entire audio industry, as well as the reality of related spinoffs into the communications and power transmission industries.

            In Borderland's videotape, Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves, Eric presents practical uses of Tesla's theories for power transmission, and in the process opens up, through the use of clear, reproducible experiments, aspects of electricity which have only been partially theorized in the past. Extensions of his industrial power work are presented with practical applications for increased power efficiency in industrial situations.

            In brief, Eric Dollard has single-handedly carried the works of the early electrical pioneers to a stage where they can be applied to everyday uses. There is no false promise of "free energy" sometime in the future, just a better technology we can use NOW!

            (End)


            Garrett M

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            • Originally posted by Nhopa View Post
              Does anyone knows, beside Eric, how to do the tuning of the secondary coil?
              If someone knows, please share the info, thank you.
              For testing the secondary:
              As far as I have been able to put together; the 50ohms means if you have a function generator with an internal impedance then you use a 1 turn coil for testing the secondary.

              by doing this and sweeping through the frequencies you will see an indication on the meter. The indication on the meter between the secondry and the "can" terminal will tell you how the coil responds when excited by a frequency.

              I am not exactly sure if you want this to be the frequency of interest??? Anyone?

              This will not be exactly what you were looking for. You will need to tune it from there.

              At this point you choices are:

              -make the end ring larger or smaller. I would need to make mine HUGE if I wanted it to lower the frequency to what I want.

              -change the number of turns (you will need to adjust your primary length if you do this to maintain the 1:10 ratio)

              For example: I want 1620kcps but I see the largest signal between seconday and "can" at ~2000kcps. I suppose I could add a large termainal ring to decrease the frequency. but I am not sure what I am sacrificing when I do that. After I added the two turn primary and capacitor the best frequency dropped.

              If I had it correct from the beginning it would be to low at this point. Then at this point you would have to do something like reduce the capacitance on the primary or move the primary further away from the secondary.

              Thats what I think I know, and I hope it helps you somehow.

              on a side note:

              I have finished a ground plane with 1" copper straps for leads, and finally have a better ground rod. 9' deep 1/2" copper pipe. I will be adding more as they come in. This is very quiet no hum buzz or pops. Crystal radio works well on it. TRT testing to begin again soon...


              But I regress and ask again.

              Whats more important keeping all the calculated values or changing some of the calculated perameters and having the secondary resonate at the exact frequency.


              jake

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              • Comments:

                In "Travelling Waves on Transmission Systems" by L.V. Bewely, the section on transformer waves has equations relating to the calculation of L, C,, M, & K.

                The four field diagrams I asked for are of EXTREME IMPORTANCE, is there not some computer program that does this? Also it might be time to re-collect in one spot the initiative to find equal and opposite forces on the LA D.W.P. DC power line. This is also important here again.

                The test loop coil for the C.R.I. tuning is 14 gauge wire for 50 Ohm and 18 gauge for 500 Ohm test oscillators. Same diameter as coils being tuned and a minimum of height, the turns tied together. A 6SN7 or 6V6 vacuum tube amplifier after test oscillators may help.

                Orion, post 492 shows a setup by Russian engineer Avramenko. This information is the final confirmation of my observation and theory that the Quadra-Polar self resonance of a coiled metallic-dielectric geometry is a true single phase, or monopolar transformer. Again the critical question rears its head; does a displacement current produce a magnetic field in the insulator which "carries" this displacement current. This is also of extreme importance.

                My understanding is that Faraday regarded the dielectric, or "paired electrics", to be the seat of both magnetic and dielectric induction. Hence the term dielectric field may be a bit misleading. Now we are relating the product of Mu Epsilon, a dipolar, and it can hereby reasoned that the iron core is in actuality a dielectric medium that acts upon Mu rather than Epsilon. Strange is the seeming requirement for a continuous metallic path for the magnetic current i, for mutual "inductance" to take place between windings. Ferrites, more like a "dielectric" than sheets seems not to work for H.F. Hi-Z transformers. A 4800 V:120 V step up is impossible at 10 mega cycles.

                Chris Carson and myself produced a Caduceus coil oscillation setup and it began to exhibit some space scalar effects. It was connected as shown in a previous diagram. It was connected as shown in a previous diagram but using a small 6J6WA double triode. The frequency was remarkably stable and unexpectedly high, V.H.F. But Chris died and I forget the tube connections. Receiving signals from another dimension was my understanding of the Integratron. See Outer Limits, first T.V. episode, "Galaxy Being". The Russian parametric paper discusses vacuum tube parametric oscillators and these have very very interesting characteristics resulting in unusual modes of reception.

                Finally, the Multipactor tube. The Farnsworth family was less than cooperative in helping me understand the Multipactor tube, and it also exists in a wide variety of forms. Philo was very interested in a symmetrical tube/symmetrical Tesla Transformer connection but Philo was also insane by the time I met him, when I was a human rat eating out of dumpsters. Here is what I know:

                The big complication is the cathode coating. High emissive currents burn it out and the coatings are extremely difficult to form. Cathode burnout seems inevitable. Farnsworth's efforts developed out of Einstein's famous 1905 paper on the photo-electric effect. He was not into writing books but had his hard bound notebook series (Gone!). I read part of it and saw many tubes, but Commonweal stole some of these from Philo's house. What I noticed is that the so called grids separated the electrons from their lines of force, but who's electron, JJ Thompson's or A. Einstein's? That I do not know. By the way Tesla used aluminum for his beam tube cathodes. Aluminum is a good secondary emitter and the oscillatory transient will cause Multipactor action. Did Tesla know this, he did make thousands of non-thermionic vacuum tubes. Also note W. Crookes is the inventor of the vacuum tube, find more on him.

                73 DE N6KPH
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                • Originally posted by T-rex View Post

                  Orion, post 492 shows a setup by Russian engineer Avramenko. This information is the final confirmation of my observation and theory that the Quadra-Polar self resonance of a coiled metallic-dielectric geometry is a true single phase, or monopolar transformer. Again the critical question rears its head; does a displacement current produce a magnetic field in the insulator which "carries" this displacement current. This is also of extreme importance.

                  Eric,

                  Thank you so much for reading the paper and for your reply. Your question about the magnetic field is important but one that I am not qualified to answer. Certainly the high frequency high voltage current is moving (by classical theory) as a skin affect. For sure the jury is still out on that and many other classical concepts.

                  I am thinking seriously about having a metal coating company here in Asheville make me some nickel coated plastic mono-filament for a balloon lofted "antenna" to connect the atmospheric ambient to earth through a double ended Avramenko plug which is a newly introduced concept thanks and credit to Peculian.

                  If I were to have Avremenko's 1 mm transmission line...how then could we test your theory?



                  Finally, the Multipactor tube. The Farnsworth family was less than cooperative in helping me understand the Multipactor tube, and it also exists in a wide variety of forms. Philo was very interested in a symmetrical tube/symmetrical Tesla Transformer connection but Philo was also insane by the time I met him, when I was a human rat eating out of dumpsters. Here is what I know:

                  That is a shame because he only really touched on what was possible. It is the perfect technology but even with all his different configurations of tubes; he was stuck "in the box" that he and RCA created.

                  The big complication is the cathode coating. High emissive currents burn it out and the coatings are extremely difficult to form. Cathode burnout seems inevitable.

                  Aluminum is a good secondary emitter and the oscillatory transient will cause Multipactor action. Did Tesla know this, he did make thousands of non-thermionic vacuum tubes.

                  There have been many advances in secondary emissive cathode materials. MgO co-sputtered 80%/20% with Au, Ag, Ni makes an easy high gain, high temperature conductive emitter. I have designed in my head, a system that eliminates many of the philo tube problems such as anode current wasting, etc. Like you, I have not the money for a high vacuum system to put it into practical use. The positive charge left behind at the emission site is neutralized with zero cost electrons from the earth and air. The current is diverted back to earth and a load though a second ground. I would love to talk to you on the phone about these issues if that is a possibility. If I find time and money to pursue these matters I would be more than happy to have you as a paid consultant. There can be no doubt of your honor and honesty...it is what make you a target of evil....believe me; I know all about these things. I would trust you over anyone else here.

                  Thanks again for your comments.

                  Orion


                  73 DE N6KPH
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                  • Aluminum is in the heart of stars, solid plasma can be created with aluminum at 2 million degrees Celsius.

                    There is also RF cathodes which have no material to degrade. I'm not fond of the magnetic fields used as that creates a inhomogeneous field where the ES wave will break down to EM.

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                    • Flux Diagrams

                      Originally posted by T-rex View Post
                      The four field diagrams of a pair of round conductors, 1/4 inch diameter, 3 inch spacing need to be produced here,

                      1) L, 100 Ampere in opposite directions in each conductor
                      2) M, 100 Ampere in same direction in each direction in each conductor
                      3) C, 10 Kilovolts, same polarity on each conductor
                      4) K, 10 Kilovolts of opposite polarity on each conductor

                      The diagramatic superposition of each of these flux diagrams with its various conjugate flux diagrams will give the patterns of LC, MK, L/k and M/C. Who can do this? It is important here!
                      Eric really stresses the importance of having these field diagrams. He is hoping someone can computer generate them. He would like to see each field separately, so they can be superimposed on each other. I'm trying to show exactly what he would like to see.

                      In this first diagram, we have just a schematic of the lines of force around a pair of conductors for L, M, C, and K. These are not the flux diagrams, just a representation of the relationship of the lines of force and the pair of conductors(square).

                      Here we have displayed the self inductance, L, and the mutaual elastance, K. In this diagream the Magnetic lines of force are repelling the conductors, and the Dielectric lines of force are pulling the conductors together.


                      Then here we have a diagram that is like(not the same as) the representation of C and M. The lines will be similar but different. It looks like C and M, its not the same thing as C and M, but the lines are the same shape.


                      From Elementary Lectures on Electric Discharges. Waves, and Impulses, and other Transients, Steinmetz:



                      This is K, Mutual Elastance, Attraction


                      C, Capacitance, Repulsion. Repulsion is attraction to a distance, grounded infinity


                      Eric would like to see these diagrams for the constraints given for the conductors, spacing, voltage, and amperage given.
                      Please help support my indiegogo campaign: Cosmic Induction Generator

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                      • Originally posted by jake View Post
                        For testing the secondary:
                        As far as I have been able to put together; the 50ohms means if you have a function generator with an internal impedance then you use a 1 turn coil for testing the secondary.

                        by doing this and sweeping through the frequencies you will see an indication on the meter. The indication on the meter between the secondry and the "can" terminal will tell you how the coil responds when excited by a frequency.

                        I am not exactly sure if you want this to be the frequency of interest??? Anyone?

                        This will not be exactly what you were looking for. You will need to tune it from there.

                        At this point you choices are:

                        -make the end ring larger or smaller. I would need to make mine HUGE if I wanted it to lower the frequency to what I want.

                        -change the number of turns (you will need to adjust your primary length if you do this to maintain the 1:10 ratio)

                        For example: I want 1620kcps but I see the largest signal between seconday and "can" at ~2000kcps. I suppose I could add a large termainal ring to decrease the frequency. but I am not sure what I am sacrificing when I do that. After I added the two turn primary and capacitor the best frequency dropped.

                        If I had it correct from the beginning it would be to low at this point. Then at this point you would have to do something like reduce the capacitance on the primary or move the primary further away from the secondary.

                        Thats what I think I know, and I hope it helps you somehow.

                        on a side note:

                        I have finished a ground plane with 1" copper straps for leads, and finally have a better ground rod. 9' deep 1/2" copper pipe. I will be adding more as they come in. This is very quiet no hum buzz or pops. Crystal radio works well on it. TRT testing to begin again soon...


                        But I regress and ask again.

                        Whats more important keeping all the calculated values or changing some of the calculated perameters and having the secondary resonate at the exact frequency.


                        jake
                        The coils were deliberately designed to be high in frequency. Once the secondary is fully interconnected it was expected the frequency would drop. A large air capacitor called a neutralizing condenser is to be connected from the secondary to neutral by broad surface(conductors) as a tuning capacity. This helps in tuning the whole system up.

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                        • Originally posted by madhatter View Post
                          Aluminum is in the heart of stars, solid plasma can be created with aluminum at 2 million degrees Celsius.
                          I'll take one kilogram please.
                          Would you like that in paper or plastic?

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                          • Originally posted by garrettm4 View Post
                            Mr. Dollard,

                            I came across an article written by Tom Brown about yourself and your public efforts. I was startled when I read "Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research". Is this article correct? If so, and if you want to publish them, I would be more than happy to help in any way I could. Although, I would understand if you didn't want to release them due to your personal situation, as of late.


                            The Work Of Eric Dollard
                            by Tom Brown 09-09-1988

                            Eric Dollard is a scientist of the type found in America around the turn of the century. He is an electrical engineer of the old school relying on experience with equipment rather than acceptance of mathematical considerations. He has studied the works of Nikola Tesla and Charles Proteus Steinmetz extensively and has applied their principles to his research. He has advanced the mathematical works of the early electrical pioneers to the stage of pragmatic industrial engineering. This was only possible by bypassing all modern relativistic theories and concepts of electrons flowing through wires, and instead maintaining the ether theories from which modern electrical equipment originally emerged. Eric's work is a direct continuation of the works of Tesla, Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, Philo Farnsworth II, and other energy pioneers whose work can be reproduced and used.

                            Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research. Five of these notebooks have been published by Borderland Sciences Research Foundation: Condensed Intro To Tesla Transformers; Dielectric & Magnetic Discharges In Electrical Windings; Symbolic Representation of Alternating Electric Waves; Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave (In Time); and The Theory of Wireless Power. These books are all practical and engineering oriented.

                            The Alternating Electric Waves paper, presenting Eric's Four Quadrant Theory of Electricity, was written after his discovery of how to generate excess magnetizing power in an industrial situation (using synchronous motors in a huge shipyard) and make the KVAR (Kilo Volt Amperes Reactive) meter turn backwards. Eric discovered that these industrial meters are pinned so that they will not turn backwards, but they can be stopped, creating readily realizable savings for the industrialist.

                            Further development of Eric's ideas has been presented at the U.S.P.A. Conference in 1987 in his talk, Representations of Electric Induction, which also included a demonstration of the Tesla One-Wire Transmission of Electricity. The One-Wire Electric Transmission has direct commercial applications in the realm of real full spectrum incandescent lighting, which could be used in operating rooms, highway lighting, schoolrooms, offices, etc.

                            In Eric's talk at the 1988 International Tesla Symposium he presented the engineering mathematics to continue work on Tesla's oscillating coils while shedding the misconceptions attached by modern physics which have brought real research into Tesla to a dead halt. The engineering mathematics developed by Eric will allow researchers to manufacture coils with practical uses rather than just making sparks.

                            The broadcasting of electricity, distortion free worldwide radio transmission, and single element full-spectrum incandescent lamps are just a few of the spinoffs taken from the realm of abstraction and brought to the reality of the lab bench by Eric's work, but perhaps the most commercial of all is what Eric terms, "The Ultimate Sound System". Eric has developed the principle and the first prototypes of distortion free audio amplification. This discovery, if properly applied, has the potential to revolutionize the entire audio industry, as well as the reality of related spinoffs into the communications and power transmission industries.

                            In Borderland's videotape, Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves, Eric presents practical uses of Tesla's theories for power transmission, and in the process opens up, through the use of clear, reproducible experiments, aspects of electricity which have only been partially theorized in the past. Extensions of his industrial power work are presented with practical applications for increased power efficiency in industrial situations.

                            In brief, Eric Dollard has single-handedly carried the works of the early electrical pioneers to a stage where they can be applied to everyday uses. There is no false promise of "free energy" sometime in the future, just a better technology we can use NOW!

                            (End)


                            Garrett M
                            The 30 notebooks most of which was funded by Captain Don Hughes, were kept at Borderland for safekeeping. As told to me by Mike Thoreux, that Tom Brown and the "Thing" deliberately jettisoned all my material so the notebooks have vanished to the winds etc.
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                              • George Van Tassel

                                KVOS Webster Reports: The Extraordinary Equation of George Van Tassel - YouTube

                                In this video George Van Tassel speaking about his experiences with Aliens at the Integratron. This is an extension of what I've been talking about.

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