Eric P. Dollard

[Cousin Itt]

Cousin Itt and Tesla

Hello,

I'm Cousin Itt and I'm new to this forum.

For quite a while I've been following the interesting discussions about Eric P. Dollard's work and Tesla and therefore decided to join. I really enjoy reading Mr. Dollard's posts and would have a question or two for him.

Mr. Dollard, I've read your posts, interviews done with you and few of your texts. My problem is that I don't have anykind of practical experience or educational background in electrical engineering. My mathematical knowledge is on a high-school level at best.

I would very much like to understand Tesla's work and your writtings fully. Further, I'd like to experiment and build things. I'm willing to work hard to obtain the necessary skills and knowledge.

What course of action would you recommend to such a person as myself? What would be the best way to get comprehensive knowledge of electrical phenomena untainted by erroneous views of modern science? What would be the best way to get the proper mathematical knowledge?

What books and articles would you recommend to such a complete beginner as myself, when it comes to the proper understanding of electrical phenomena and acquiring the necessary mathematical knowledge?

What would be the best way to get good practical skills, when it comes to electrical engineering and experimenting? As said, experimenting and building things is of paramount importance.

I've been very influenced by Goethe's ideas about science (mainly through Steiner). Especially his concept of organic thinking and proper observation. Therefore the following words of yours really struck a cord with me:

In Electricity, the ideas of Goethe and Wilhelm Reich are much more in accord with electricity, and the formative forces in general. Newton was a materialist and his physics represents an impediment to the understanding of electricity...The Aether does not relate to the inertial laws of Newton, but the formative forces laws of Goethe.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1631-peter-whatever-happened-eric-p-dollard-26.html

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my impression that your notions of space and counterspace have much in common with those of George Adams.

As far as I'm concerned I think that Goethe's approach to science and above all his methodological premises are hugely important for the correct understanding of nature.

I would also like to know about your opinion on the following matters:

What do you think about Ernst Lehrs and his book "Man or Matter"?

What is your opinion about Gabriel Kron and his work? Do you think it could be helpful, when it comes to correct understanding of electrical phenomena? What about his methodological tool of Diakoptics?

What is your opinion about Walter Russell?

What do you think about Charles Howard Hinton and his notions of space and dimensions? Are these ideas compatible with that of yours and those of George Adams?

What do you think about Rudolf Steiner and especially about his Strader-machine?

What is your opinion about Stan Deyo and especially of his ideas and theories, when it comes to electrical science?

I have George Van Tassel's book "When the Stars Look Down" at home. Is everything what Van Tassel said in that book accurate?

What do you think about John Ernst Keely? I've heard that Keely was influenced to a great degree in his thinking by the way how church organs were made and function. In fact, there are even claims that he modeled some of his own terminology according to the terminology of old organ builders from the 19th and 18th century.

Many thanks for your answers and help.

Cousin Itt

[Nhopa]

Do your home work

Hi Cousin Itt:
My suggestion, that you start reading both forums (Peter, what ever happened to Eric...., and Eric P. Dollard) starting about last August. Take careful notes and follow Eric's instructions. Just to experiment, you don't need the math. All those people you are asking Eric about are probably not important, otherwise Eric would have mentioned them. Get the book, Nikola Tesla's "Colorado Springs Notes", read it carefully. You will find out that Tesla was not heavy into mathematics but had a brain that few can match today and he was an experimenter. If you have the means to get the necessary materials to do the crystal set that would be a good start. Thanks to Eric the forum has all the necessary information to get you started, and you will always find helping hands on this forum. Please don't get side tracked with other people, just do what we are trying to accomplisher. Wish you success.

[t-rex]

Comments

I ran across a Tesla article title "Famous Scientific Illusions" while looking at electrical experimenter magazine (Hugo Gernsback). This article is hard to read but contains some extremely important insight into Tesla and his efforts! This article should be re-printed and presented here in an easy to read form, very important.

The radar paper by Lt. Commander G Brown is very instructive. The Gullimen line is a very complex subject. Two of his "Communication Networks" relates this subject to analysis, but it is hard to understand. I was reading this when I was working on the Navy LCS-102 at Mare Island a few years ago but my life again was violently disrupted and the book was lost.

I had constructed a few line/thyratron modulators in Santa Barbara, these can be seen in the first Borderland video. Three videos which are now well known as well as 8 U.S. Psychotronics Association lectures in L.A. which are lost, were produced with the funding available. Since no "free energy fusebox" was invented the funding was withdrawn. Much effort was spent on moving this equipment about, as previously stated, and eventually disappeared. The radar transformers and network vanished along with the cosmic inductorium.

What is needed from the M.I.T. book is a detailed diagram or schematic of a line type hydrogen tube modulator. One with the 5C22 thyratron and 705 diodes is best. Also the four field diagrams L, M, C, K, I asked for are of the ultimate importance. Who will do this?

Madhatter (multipactor) has noticed that his "dead phase" extra coil jammed his "silly phone". I have noticed similar strange effects. Strange things lead to strange discoveries. Is some kind of "space scalar" effect showing itself here?

Do not be fooled by George Gabory of the SF Tesla Society. The videos are fine and need no edit. The one on youtube is a backup copy made in case the inevitable happened, and it always happens, guaranteed.

He and his group have no interest in my work, nor that of Nikola Tesla. They are onyl interested in the prevalent Commonweal agenda of the SF Bay area.

I attempted to enlist their help with Landers based Mojave Research Station, at least to document it. They showed up to glom "free energy secrets" but there were none. Yet they spent an untold fortune defending Paul Pantone. Useless!!

Any attempt at recovering the Landers notebooks has failed. These were taken by Roy Stolti, someone who came to "help Eric".

I have come to the conclusion that all this misfortune originates with the "girls" at the now defunct Integratron. After starting a fire they attempted to commandeer my Mojave Station once and were cutting into my telephone lines. So what does that tell us. Who is going to help me next?

73 DE N6KPH

[t-rex]

Radar Tube Numbers

5-C-22

5 first, C, second, 22, third

First number, cathode power category.

1, no cathode
2, small cathode
3, typical cathode
4, larger cathode
5, large cathode, etc.
8, giant cathode

Second Letter

A, one element (light bulb)
B, diode
C, triode
D, tetrode
E, pentode

Last number, individual tube type in series

The 8D21 is a giant 3E29, 9C21 biggest tube in series

[t-rex]

Phase Shift Determination by means of an oscilloscope

Phase Shift Determination by means of an oscilloscope (C.R.I.)

[t-rex]

Cousin Itt,

Gabriel Kron sits somewhere between Heaviside, Steinmetz, and General Electric. Tell us more about him.

73 DE N6KPH

[garrettm4]

Famous Scientific Illusions (Pt1)

As per Mr. Dollard's request, here's a more "web" friendly version of the Tesla article in question:

Famous Scientific Illusions
Nikola Tesla

Originally Published in the Electrical Experimenter February, 1919I. The Illusion of the Axial Rotation of the Moon.

[garrettm4]

[garrettm4]

Famous Scientific Illusions (Pt3)

III. The Singular Misconception of the Wireless.

[garrettm4]

References:

Nikola Tesla
Famous Scientific Illusions



Notes:

The Moon's Rotation was a three part article that spanned three different monthly publications, February, April and June of the 1919 Electrical Experimenter. Only the first part is shown with "Famous Scientific Illusions", so to read the rest about what Tesla has to say on the moon, click on the other two shown in the "references".

Also, Jim Murray HIGHLY recommends reading ALL of "The Moon's Rotation" as it has unique mechanical concepts that can be applied to achieve "over unity" mechanical devices.

Garrett M

[David G Dawson]

MIT Book

Quote from Eric:
What is needed from the M.I.T. book is a detailed diagram or schematic of a line type hydrogen tube modulator. One with the 5C22 thyratron and 705 diodes is best. Also the four field diagrams L, M, C, K, I asked for are of the ultimate importance. Who will do this?

Cannot find anything that is directly referring to the above but have the following 2 pages on offer attached.

Is there a facility available where I can upload this book for Eric and others to view?
Not much use for anyone not into Vacuum Tubes but a minefield of excellent information on Impulse technology and where design of the CIG could be based.
Book is 741 pages and about 35K and was purchased via Scribd.
Tells me the 3E29 and 829 are basically the same Tube but with slight design changes for different applications with Mica introducing unwanted matter under certain operating conditions and the need to use Ceramics in the 3E29.
Have 1B22s here as spark gaps and has information on those as well.

Smokey

[dR-Green]

Phase Shift Determination by means of an oscilloscope (C.R.I.)

I see! I don't have things set up at the moment but I have audio recordings from the "early days" which I'm able to play back and attached a scope to it. Things weren't set up properly in light of new information (simple piece of wire as antenna for the luminal receiver) etc, and the audio signal was fed directly from the audio outputs instead of crystal earpiece into preamps for recording on the computer. So I'm just playing that audio back. Here are some examples of what can be seen

[David G Dawson]

Guillemin Theory

Guillemin Theory:
Have posted a PDF at 'n6kph' that covers the above in some 18 pages and comes out at only 750kb.
Will index the book and you can then choose the Chapters you need and I will make and post the pdfs.
The Yahoo setup is probably better where it comes to files and pictures as all the data is readily available on the one page.

I still have this nagging feeling here and asking the question, are we going to see an energy device that can get us off the grid and what is going to be required?

Am I able to attach a PDF here as I don't see any indicator?
Thanks.

Smokey

[jake]

inductive discharge

"The operation is as follows: When the switch is thrown on, the current from the supply circuit rushes through the self-induction coil, magnetizing the iron core within and separating the contacts of the controller. The high tension induced current then charges the condenser and upon closure of the contacts the accumulated energy is released through the primary, giving rise to a long series of oscillations which excite the tuned secondary circuit."

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/10992-eric-p-dollard-16.html#post193903

2 - 3H sodium lamp ballasts charged just right and discharged through 4, ne2 bulbs in series.(all the resistors and appropriate tracks were cut in a Harbofreight indicator to make that).


By jastermake at 2012-05-20
Manually triggered relay


By jastermake at 2012-05-20

pwm triggered relay


Current in neons was high enough to melt the electrodes.

[jake]

Previously defined are four dinstinct electric types of inductivities:

1) Self inductivity, L, in Henry per centimeter
2) Self capacity, C, in Farad per centimeter
3) Mutual enductivity, M, in per Henry per centimeter
4) Mutual elastivity, K, in per Farad per centimeter

The dimension relations are given as:
1) L, centimeter
2) C, second square centimeter cube
3) M, per centimeter cube
4) K, centimeter per second square

These are the distributed constants of the generalized field of electric induction. The two distributions in space are defined by:

1) LM, per centimeter square
2) CK, per centimeter square

Dimensionally standing between LM and CK is the dimensions of second square. This is to say that the magnetic distribution and the dielectric distribution are interwoven through the dimension of time and its relation frequency. This is not unlike a simple condenser and reactance coil which interect through per second square. Now the two fields are not lumped, but are distributed in form. Hence the time dimensional interactions between LM and CK gives rise to a complex of electric wave propogations in both spatial and counter spatial modes.

Here we meet with the completely generalized electric wave. We are nearing the holy grail of electrical engineering.

The complex of magneto-dielectric interactions can take four distinct forms. Each is a single magnetic energy interacting through time with a single dielectric energy. Hence:

1) LC, Henry-Farad per centimeter square
2) MK, per Henry-per Farad per centimeter square

In dimensional expression these are given as,
LC, second square per centimeter square
MK, second square times centimeter square

These two terms give rise to a pair of propogation constants,
One over the square root of LC,
1) centimeters per second

One over the square root of MK,
2) per centimeter per second

Relation (1) is a velocity, motion through space over time, and relation (2) is a counter velocity, motion through counter space over time. These two propogation constants represent the motion of electric induction in a general metallic-dielectric geometry. Unlike the distributions LM and CK which are hyperbolic functions of distance, the propogations LC, and MK, are circular functions of distance along the propogating structure. It can be said two hyperbola are transformed into two circles, this as a geometric analog.

Two additional interactions between magnetic and dielectric inductions arise,
3) K/L, per second square
4) M/C, per second square

or alternatively
3) L/K, second square
4) C/M, second square

A reciprocal relation suggests itself here such as
3) L/K per second square
4) C/M second square

In all their forms both L over K and M over C are space scalars in that they exhibit no distribution in space, everywhere at the same time. Relations (3) and (4) are space-scalar frequencies of magnetic-dielectric exchange and accordingly they are circular functions of time.

Through the presented dimensional relations a generalized expression for electric induction is established. It consists of the following components,

1) The space distribution of magnetic induction, LM,
2) The space distribution of dielectric induction, CK,
3) The time rate of energy exchange between self inductivity, L, and mutual elastivity, K,
4) The time rate of energy exchange between self capacity, C, and mutual enductivity, M

And these four factors, or constants give rise to a pair of electric wave propagations,

a) The electromagnetic propogation in space, LC,
b) The magneto dielectric propogation in counterspace MK

Here four scalar constants, two time scalar, two space scalar, give rise to a pair of waves in two conjugate dimensional relations. This is a bit more complex than a single lumped condenser, or a single lumped reactor. In fact in view of this more generalized understanding the condenser is in actuality a mutual elastor, K, and the reactor is in actuality a mutual enductor, M. Here is a completely reversed viewpoint.

73 DE N6KPH

Thank You,

That helped me out greatly. Especially the last part.