Homegrown food sharing may become illegal

[ashtweth]

Guys sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forum ?

Homegrown food sharing may become illegal

Urgent - SB S510 Will Allow Government to Put You in Jail for Growing, Sharing, Trading and Sharing Homegrown Food

Dear health-giving-food lovers,
Please send the following senators listed below my sample letter below, or write one and send yours.

Dear Congress(wo)man,
I am deeply concerned with your sponsorship of Senate Bill 510. That bill represents another hideous attempt to place more power into the hands of centralized government and robs individual citizens and states. The greatest danger to mankind is that this bill allows complete manipulation of America's food supply and threatens to strip us of our freedoms to grow, sell, and buy food and make doing any of those natural things crimes punishable by imprisonment. It would be a crime to grow food and share it with my friends and neighbors. The act of generating and supporting this bill is in itself criminal to our Constitution to which you are not immune. Not only remove your sponsorship from Bill S510 but defeat it. Thank you.

Sincerely,
(your name)

Contacting the Congress
Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) is the sponsor of this bill.

Co-sponsors are:
Lamar Alexander [R-TN]
Jeff Bingaman [D-NM]
Richard Burr [R-NC]
Roland Burris [D-IL]
Saxby Chambliss [R-GA]
Christopher Dodd [D-CT]
Michael Enzi [R-WY]
Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
Judd Gregg [R-NH]
Thomas Harkin [D-IA]
Orrin Hatch [R-UT]
John Isakson [R-GA]
Edward Kennedy [D-MA]
Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Ben Nelson [D-NE]
Tom Udall [D-NM]
David Vitter [R-LA]

Write these senators today and tell them to revoke their support of Senate Bill 510!Senate Bill S510 Will Make It Illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food

S. 510: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (GovTrack.us)YouTube - ‪Vandana Shiva, ISEC - Corporate Rule‬‎
YouTube - ‪Vandana Shiva, ISEC - Reclaiming Economy‬‎

[sucahyo]

S 425 failed and the revision is even stricker?

http://www.energeticforum.com/agriculture/4005-thank-michelle-obama-first-white-house-garden-60-years.html

[gasman]

that was a long post... nothing wrong with that in its own right, though. The problem is constant references to "it," "them," etc. without . This is all opinion and speculation. It is all completely pointless.

If you want to have a discussion please post some facts. The bill itself is an obvious starting point. We can go from there.

[ashtweth]

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[conradphd]

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@General

A few months back I remember Dr Stiffler posting a warning of the three prime changes on the horizon (1) Unlawful to capture and use Rain Water - (2) Unlawful to grow your own food - (3) Outlaw OTC sales of Vitamins and minerals.

Guess what? EU and US....

We still can not believe the responses to what was posted - absolute ignorance and the total flaw in thinking that going to vote in the next puppet will change anything.

There is only one answer to how this can be solved, although in the US with 51% of the population either receiving aid or being employed by the Federal Crooks and some 840,000 people with Top Secret Security Clearance spying on the American people - doubt action will be seen until starvation sets in.

[jibbguy]

The best thing to do with these draconian laws is to break them, and be arrested. First, they would have a difficult time finding a Jury to convict someone of them. Second, they must be Challenged, before they can be Struck Down as Unconstitutional (as they clearly are). Such court cases and Challenges are what will bring publicity and greater pubic awareness to them.

So if we see that someone does Challenge them, we should pitch in and help with spreading the word and with donations for their legal funds.

[DrStiffler]

The best thing to do with these draconian laws is to break them, and be arrested. First, they would have a difficult time finding a Jury to convict someone of them. Second, they must be Challenged, before they can be Struck Down as Unconstitutional (as they clearly are). Such court cases and Challenges are what will bring publicity and greater pubic awareness to them.

So if we see that someone does Challenge them, we should pitch in and help with spreading the word and with donations for their legal funds.

@jibbguy

Here is my two cents. You are correct in one sense, non-compliance would have a great effect, 'if' enough people did it, like all the 'Tea Party' voters that plan on turning out. After they start to deal with 10-15K people in their FEMA Camps, they may take note and try it a bit different.

Of course this again would be a short term answer. Cancer remission is great, but you are always wondering when it will return........

[Savvypro]

There is a simple way around this - unfortunately you will need to understand what you're clamming and be willing to go all the way.

The so called laws their passing are statutes which are only valid under maritime admiralty law. They have no validity under the law of the land. When I say this I’m referring to common law countries. E.g.: USA (except Louisiana - but don’t quote me on that), Canada, UK, New Zealand, Australia etc.

The problem is that the masses are not clued up on this hidden fact and will claim it isn't so, including those who think/pretend to be in charge.

Getting them to admit the reality will be as follows (head + wall -->):

Do a google search for Winston Shrout, freeman movment, or go to 1215.org (Law Notes -- Home Page)

The following should be good reading: REPUBLIC VS. DEMOCRACY, U.S.ARMY ANALYSIS

[Bizzy]

The best thing to do with these draconian laws is to break them, and be arrested. First, they would have a difficult time finding a Jury to convict someone of them. Second, they must be Challenged, before they can be Struck Down as Unconstitutional (as they clearly are). Such court cases and Challenges are what will bring publicity and greater pubic awareness to them.

So if we see that someone does Challenge them, we should pitch in and help with spreading the word and with donations for their legal funds.

Good morning
Knowing the creeping socilaism in this country I don't belive this issue is dead so I thought I would add my two cents.
You could choose to break the law, but never underestimate the desire of a dictator to control his people. Look at how they pushed through Obamcare,...
The best thing to do would be to hide your gardens. Blend your food crops in with flowerbeds and in unconvetional places.
You can hide some in the open, most people now a days down garden or farm and couldn't tell what you are growing anyway. Others like corna nd tomatoes may be more difficult but with a little inventiveness it would be possbale.
The most vaulable plant you have is the Liberty Tree. Water it like Thoams Jefferson suggets
Bizzy

[DrStiffler]

Good morning
Knowing the creeping socilaism in this country I don't belive this issue is dead so I thought I would add my two cents.
You could choose to break the law, but never underestimate the desire of a dictator to control his people. Look at how they pushed through Obamcare,...
The best thing to do would be to hide your gardens. Blend your food crops in with flowerbeds and in unconvetional places.
You can hide some in the open, most people now a days down garden or farm and couldn't tell what you are growing anyway. Others like corna nd tomatoes may be more difficult but with a little inventiveness it would be possbale.
The most vaulable plant you have is the Liberty Tree. Water it like Thoams Jefferson suggets
Bizzy

@Bizzy
No! I respectfully disagree with you on this approach. Why should "we" become criminals under the hands of criminals? Why should we allow it to be, no we should not have to sneak and hide a garden or any other God or Constitutional provided for human freedom.

No! Stop it where it starts, not work around it, allowing it to happen is giving in and accepting it. Plant the Garden and defend it and your rights.

[Bizzy]

@Bizzy
No! I respectfully disagree with you on this approach. Why should "we" become criminals under the hands of criminals? Why should we allow it to be, no we should not have to sneak and hide a garden or any other God or Constitutional provided for human freedom.

No! Stop it where it starts, not work around it, allowing it to happen is giving in and accepting it. Plant the Garden and defend it and your rights.

Hi Dr Stiffler
I do agree completely with you that we should not accept this in any way and it should be fought with ballots and bullets.
But I am suggetsing to keep a hidden garden in reserve for the simple reason that all Democrats/socilaist are evil and do not always abide by laws. So a hidden garden during an inserection is by far better than a destroyed but defending garden in the same inserection.
Bizzy

[DrStiffler]

Hi Dr Stiffler
I do agree completely with you that we should not accept this in any way and it should be fought with ballots and bullets.
But I am suggetsing to keep a hidden garden in reserve for the simple reason that all Democrats/socilaist are evil and do not always abide by laws. So a hidden garden during an inserection is by far better than a destroyed but defending garden in the same inserection.
Bizzy

@Bizzy and All

I feel bullets are the very last resort, although I feel the ballot box is a waste of time. If 'we' stand together and voice our opposition in no uncertain terms with a deadline for action, that might send a chill or two up the spines of many.

It must be understood that no threats are being made, it must be expressed that 'we' want our Rights back and the Constitution. If compliance is not forthwith, then we are indeed obligated under the Constitution which we believe in to take a different course of action. It is also the responsibility of every individual that took an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution to stand with the people. If they do not, then, well it does not look good for anyone, either side.

It is time to stop hedging our bets, either go all in or fold, as they say poop or get off the pot.

*P.S. Those in the military serving to obtain Citizenship, pay attention and think deeply, what is it you want to be a Citizen Of? Do you want a piece of paper claiming you are now part of a country the echos what you left?