Tesla's Electric Car

[Ernst]

GREAT!
We are getting nearer to the source of this story.
What have we got....
Dallas Morning News of January 24th 1993 (50 years after Tesla died, and 62 years after the supposed event) Article by A.C. Greene.
His source:
Article in a Packard Newsletter by Arthur Abrom (date unknown but after 1979). Notice that he mentions a 1 week testing period, which would certainly not go unnoticed. And "several newspapers in Buffalo reported this test", while we can not find one single copy.
Arthur also states that the US patent office holds 1200 patents by Nikola Tesla.... That is at least 10 x the realistic number. Here he loses some credibility....
No... I think he has lost all.


Ernst.

[Bob Smith]

Thought I'd pop this in - a post on another thread from JB which mentions what he feels were the dynamics behind Tesla's car:

...At a different point in time I will discuss what the coil is and how quantum mechanics plays an important part in all of this and how you get the extra energy out of the system. I did write a paper for University of Edinburgh along with Dave Clemons that explained the way the coil works in the system as an energy pump and how the SSG in attraction mode works. This is why I said, the Back EMF is always lower than the battery voltage. If you look at the coil in space it can be viewed with vectors all pointing in but not coupled to form energy. As the coil is pulsed compression and decompression takes place these vectors get sucked in through the Bloch Wall while it is in compression mode forming magnetic poles, North and South. This was never released to the public as it would drive everybody nuts. The Engineers at the school answered me with; we never looked at it this way. But the analyses were correct and explained why some machines work better in different areas of this God forsaken planet. Yes Gravity plays an important part in all of this. It’s only a matter of time when you will tap that Gravity wave for energy as that is where my experiments have led me in my work. I know you will read this many times to understand what I have just said and you all know the meaning of this if you do it. If we take this further you now have discovered the answer to the TPU. Some say that the Shaman resonance is responsible for this but the energy is driven by gravity that permeates everything throughout space it’s just a matter how it’s taped for energy. Solid state devices detect this wave if arranged correctly and then the TPU becomes not complicated anymore with windings and high frequency’s oscillators that is what powered Tesla’s car, the box with many vacuum tubes, so again the term Free Energy is wrong as you must put some form of energy in to start the process of conversion and hope you get more out.
Just remember that the energy cannot be destroyed it can only be converted into another form, for example the last version of the SSG...
John Bedini

[boguslaw]

Thought I'd pop this in - a post on another thread from JB which mentions what he feels were the dynamics behind Tesla's car:

Let's investigate this issue . What we know ? We know Tesla used ordinary car with removed engine. So, most probably there was car battery in place. We know he used a bunch of vaccum tubes high power probably . Thus he was able to create oscillating or alternating current from car battery, right ? He was able to create large power due to many power vaccum tubes BUT for a very very small period of time ! That's obvious to me. He may tap radio waves but that's useless if he didn't used capacitors to amplify power.
We have no info if any capacitors were used and probably they weren't.
However the most important tip is about iron rods.

I bet Tesla used regenerative process which Barbosa & Leal tried to patent lately.
Some versatile apparatus which runs exactly like Hubbard device : connected once to the power source of alternating current it was able to produce 40kW continously by FEEDING BACK power to the input and rely on iron hysteresis to control maximum output power . Truly the genious idea and truly perpetuum mobile device , first mentioned by Daniel McFarland Cook.
The only problem is if there is any isotopic change inside iron which can release neutron radiation during the process. This danger is though limited as we have plenty of DC-AC and DC-DC inverters runnin in saturation mode, why nobody reported radiation ????

[Ernst]

Let's investigate this issue . What we know ?

Yes! Let's DO investigate this issue!
What do we know?

We know that this story most likely NEVER HAPPENED.

Still people are trying to find out HOW something was done that NEVER was done.
Time to wake up and move on!


Ernst.

[wrtner]

We know that this story most likely NEVER HAPPENED.

Why do you take this view?

There is little doubt that his knowledge was more than necessary to achieve the goal. He may well have been given a warning from those upon whose toes he was about to tread.

[boguslaw]

Here is the riddle :

Alfred M. Hubbard: Coil Generator

"Alfred M. Hubbard, Seattle boy inventor of a device which for want of a better name he terms an atmospheric power generator, yesterday made good his prediction that he would drive a motorboat with the apparatus as a source of
power."

so he was from Seattle.....but .......later we have .....:

"I never heard of this Lester J. Hendershot, the Pittsburgh electrical engineer who is demonstrating the motor", Hubbard said, "but it must be remembered that I worked on the invention for two years in Pittsburgh -- in 1921 and 1922. It was a Dr. Greenslade who represented the people who were financing me at the time -- but, of course, if the people who bought out most of my interest in the invention were to bring it out as their own machinery, they would probably do it through a man with whom I had never worked. I was employed by the radium Chemical Company at the time I was working in Pitsburgh".

Now if you look at Daniel McFarland Cook patent :

"Be it known that I, Daniel McFarland Cook, of Mansfield, in the county of Richland and State of Ohio, have invented an Electro-Magnetic Battery, of which the following is a specification:...."


"Nikola Tesla - On His Work With Alternating Currents" : Tesla in first words said :
" This, of course, interested me very much, but the work was interrupted in 1888 when I had to go to Pittsburgh to attend to the manufacture of the motors."

Very insteresting coincidence indeed. 4 great inventors related to the same place : Pittsburgh an Mansfield (2 hours away). Now, I'm in Poland in Europe, but if I were near Pittsburgh i would check if any more information is in local library

[Bob Smith]

We may never find primary source information to absolutely confirm this happened. But knowing what we know now about tapping the power in the dielectric realm, we ourselves have the means to make it happen. Perhaps we need to accept that the car story might never be proven either way and move on to discuss how we can make it happen.

The JB quote I posted above gives some clues. He wasn't there either, but he's telling us a little about how it can be done. Boguslaw mentions a feedback pulse system, the Hubbard coil and DM Cook coils. There are other ways as well. JB talks about pulsing a coil which results in dielectricity converging into the coil at the bloch wall (dielectric plane).

Can we perhaps proceed with a discussion on how we might make the car story happen today?
Bob

Edit: I was working on this post off and on over the last 45 minutes (kept getting called away), and realized I was probably writing while you were, Boguslaw. I think your Pittsburgh angle is a good one for someone to check up on.

[Ernst]

"Nikola Tesla - On His Work With Alternating Currents" : Tesla in first words said :
" This, of course, interested me very much, but the work was interrupted in 1888 when I had to go to Pittsburgh to attend to the manufacture of the motors."

Can you give me a link to the full article that you got this quote from?
(my version does not include this text. Though, I agree he did go to Pittsburgh to help Westinghouse manufacturing motors that should run on 133 Hz.)


@wrtner,
read my earlier posts in this thread, they provide your answer.

@Bob Smith,
Tesla said: "Nihil in sacculo quod non fuerit in capite"
Before even thinking about taking up such quest, perhaps one should try to get a better understanding of electricity and its role in our universe first. I believe that there lies the secret of Tesla's inventions. He understood something that we do not.


Ernst.

[Bob Smith]

Ernst
I think it would be helpful to explore the principles behind how it might be possible to access the dielectric to power electric motors. In terms of research, I would agree that it is always best to go back to the time-tested classics and work from there. However, in these forums there is usually some working backward from phenomena, to see how they align with such principles; often these phenomena help us truly understand what we can't comprehend on paper. I personally see the phenomena discussed and demonstrated by people like Don Smith, EPD, Bearden, JB and others as occasions for us to find concrete manifestations of principles expressed by Tesla. In this sense, I think we all have to contribute from where we're at, and will hopefully arrive at the same general place, some earlier than others.
Bob

[Ernst]

Bob,

To drive a small car at, say 100 km/h, you'd need at least 50 KW.
(I am talking about a car as bought from the shop, not a university designed zero air-drag minimum friction prototype)

Did, as far as you know, any of those you mention produce this kind of power out of thin air, radiations or some other source that could be accessed by a mobile receiver?
I have not seen any of such evidence.

I think that if you want to take up such project, you should do it systematically.
- what power source can you use
- how can you tap it
and work from there.

The school-girl won't get you anywhere.


Ernst.

[boguslaw]

I suppose the power source in all such cases (D.McFarland Cook,Tesla's car,Hendershot&Hubbard devices and also Perrigo and Leedscalnin devices) are electromagnetic field of Earth tapped through iron usage. Gravity is a part of this field I believe. Iron allow to concentrate field to obtain currents in hundreds of amps. Of course all those are presumptions but in fact if you think enough about it - it's the most logical explanation. Especially if you connect all information about those inventors. One thing I can say : some of their devices seems "linear" and some have a direct feedback path working in non-linear mode, more spectacular but also more dangerous.
It's so simple you would laugh - remember ?

[boguslaw]

Can you give me a link to the full article that you got this quote from?
(my version does not include this text. Though, I agree he did go to Pittsburgh to help Westinghouse manufacturing motors that should run on 133 Hz.)


@wrtner,
read my earlier posts in this thread, they provide your answer.

@Bob Smith,
Tesla said: "Nihil in sacculo quod non fuerit in capite"
Before even thinking about taking up such quest, perhaps one should try to get a better understanding of electricity and its role in our universe first. I believe that there lies the secret of Tesla's inventions. He understood something that we do not.


Ernst.

Ernst

I bought L.Anderson book few years ago (shipping from US to Europe!) because it is so valuable ! ...but if you cannot find it (and I know it's hard to get a copy) nowadays it is plenty of copies in pdf format online (not so legal imho) . I hope posting one link would not be a sin

Anyway just google "nikola tesla on his work with alternating currents" and get pdf as second link (probably)

[Ernst]

Thanks! I now see there are many chapters missing in my copy...

Anyway, that has been solved now. Lots of new things to read.


Ernst.

[Bob Smith]

Bob,

To drive a small car at, say 100 km/h, you'd need at least 50 KW.
(I am talking about a car as bought from the shop, not a university designed zero air-drag minimum friction prototype)

Did, as far as you know, any of those you mention produce this kind of power out of thin air, radiations or some other source that could be accessed by a mobile receiver?
I have not seen any of such evidence.

I think that if you want to take up such project, you should do it systematically.
- what power source can you use
- how can you tap it
and work from there.

The school-girl won't get you anywhere.


Ernst.

Ernst,
You have one ultimate power source: the ambient electrostatic environment (aether).
You tap the ambient's electrostatic charge via a proper antenna with a virtual ground to produce a pulse.
Once you have a pulse, you can produce an oscillation; once you have oscillation, you can draw in the power of the power of the aether as John Bedini describes.

Now, you can also use a small battery to generate a pulse and oscillation, but your main power source running the load (i.e., the car's electric motor) is the aether.

It is the load that determines how much charge is drawn into the system via the pulsed coil. A battery (or antenna) is merely a tiny catalyst.
Bob

[Vinyasi]

Tesla's Battery for his Pierce Arrow Experiment may have been HV Capacitors

Bizzy

I read the other day, (cannot find link at the moment) that Tesla also used a special battery with the car. The battery apparently had replaceable zinc plates, with spares in the boot. I hadn't read that in other reports about this car so though worth mentioning.

Regards

John

With the right circuitry, HV capacitors may be what someone erroneously took to be batteries....

Tesla's Pierce Arrow Electric Car Experiment of 1931

post is mirrored here...
Teslas Pierce Arrow Electric Car Experiment Of 1931 : Vinyasi : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Hence, no radio broadcast of power and its reception need be done. Self-excitation is intrinsically possible in an idealized circuit.

As always, it takes a wizard such as Eric Dollard or Nikola Tesla to make a WoW idea into a reality. I am not in that company just because I can simulate it. I have zero background in electrical engineering.