Attempting to use classic theory for overunity explanation

[Khwartz]

Yes,it's all true. Attached is one reason for overunity (not mine image ,don't know who is the author I hope he won't protest)

Huum, have you seen that in the schematic the draw of the primary source is 12V * 0.21W, so 5.52W which feeds at the output a 5W light-bulb?

It's like I said before: it's not because you increase an efficiency you go OU! :/

Of course, that's very great and not negligible to increase the efficiency of our electric devices, but it's yet far from OU.

[Khwartz]

First, sorry for double post, I had mistaken in the order of he messages and didn't find my last reply at first.

Concept is easy to grasp when you combine few not yet assembled aspects.

It's very true for me to cut a problem in more little logical pieces could help to grasp the whole system

First I know what you said. There is no OU without energy input from external source unknown to us for example. But you can made circuit much more efficient then we expect today eliminating some wrong assumptions put in every engineer's tasks today. Suddenly a motor which can run on idle using only 15W while at full load consuming tremendous 2kW can be bring down to 15-50W consumption on full load.

Huum, I don't have seen that for now; do you?

And this is not magic, it's only clever usage of Lenz law.

Yeah, while using it better and back-EMF, we can do better, sure!

Now those 50W need to be taken from envinronment via resonant antenna.

As I said in my previous posts, I don't thing resonance is enough in itself: short enough and high enough picks of voltage looks to be absolutely necessary. I mean: hight single short pick of voltage can be sufficient in itself I think, without any resonant effect in a conductor.

I would say - easy task for experienced engineer but we are not experienced yet.

I think that, in the self-sustaining fans for example, the frequencies add each other, yes it is resonance indeed, but not only in the way of superconductivity in the wires themselves, but by creating the needed picks at the end.

It struck me when I thought about power return via neutral wire to power station. If you look at complete power grid with consumers and power station as a whole resonant circuit then obviously this energy should (and probably is ??? ) be re-used.

I think you missunderstand the system. It said "neutral" only because of a question of potential difference and connection at said "neutral point" of transformers, but here earth is a conductor like coper wires, it's just more economical for the grid to do like this. But yes, mainly because of the coper (or aluminium) wires (not because of the "earth wire"), we lose 2/3 of the primary energy produce at the power plant. So, would be just in producing the electricity home, even without any improvement of the efficiency of the generators, we would already win globally, 2 times the energy we produce home. I mean: if every people would produces their own electricty, we would need only a third of what we consume persently!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But to let you know, the generator in power plants (at lest in France, are already "super-efficient", like 98%...).

In other words : due to inefficiency of our common electrical appliances we are wasting a lot of incoming electric energy .

That's very true, but not for the reason you have announced

I believe someday we will find that what we paid to electric companies were only looses in new paradigm of electrical science.

Hehe, not in the paradigm, but in the politics which decide to produce the energy in power-plants. But any way, if we still produce it form big power plants, if the primary energy was like solar or green hydrogen only, we would don't care about the 67% of lost; isn't it?

Finally we don't need to produce a lot of electrical energy. A charged capacitor providing an initial kick of required energy level is enough to maintain a kW electrical system in re-usage state with small looses compensated by antenna sucking energy from broadband radio waves of cosmic origin......

Could you show me that? send me to real proven experiments with adequate meters, like VAR-meters and True-RMS meters, cause me, even since years, I've never found yet

[boguslaw]

Electrical energy can make a lot more work then we are creating with current method of "killling the dipole"

Some interesting question : assume we have found a way to create room temperature superconductor . Now we can build a RLC circuit without any or with just very tiny resistance. If we put an initial kick into such circuit we have oscillations of power almost ethernal. Now we use magnetic field of inductor made from such superconductor to heat some piece of iron via eddy currents. The only problem we have to fight against now is to overcome the "response" or Lenz law cruise on our superconducting coil which tends to stop oscillations in RCL circuit. You see that it has to work that way - if everything including our bodies would be created from superconducting materials and there would be no lag law like Lenz law - everything would immediately explode from positive feedback of energy accumulation.

This fortunate accidental setup of nature laws is something IMHO very possibly special made for us to live and uncover other possibilities only at higher level of advancement of our civilisation.

[Khwartz]

Electrical energy can make a lot more work then we are creating with current method of "killling the dipole"

If you say. So, could you explain me that? please.

Some interesting question : assume we have found a way to create room temperature superconductor . Now we can build a RLC circuit without any or with just very tiny resistance.

For sure, and it's what we approach a few when we come to resonate with conductor, but only a few, as I could have seen until now. I mean very partially.

If we put an initial kick into such circuit we have oscillations of power almost ethernal.

Yes, we can conceive that, but only in the state of very close superconductance, and only in this proportion indeed.

Now we use magnetic field of inductor made from such superconductor to heat some piece of iron via eddy currents.

Huum, I see, but the problem is that when the particles of electricity moves in the superconductor and "INTER-act" with the atoms of the conductor near by, as per laws of classical physics, at least, the electric particles would lose some energy too; because these are INTER actions. (If I have well enough understood my physics).

The only problem we have to fight against now is to overcome the "response" or Lenz law cruise on our superconducting coil which tends to stop oscillations in RCL circuit.

Yes, in this term it is a way of what I was talking about, and what could change that a few or even dramatically, it's the way to use the kick-back as an electromotive force and not as a counter-motiveforce, like while we shift the way of the path at he right time so that the superconductor receives the kick-back as a "push" on the electrons instead of lowing them. Isn't it? But I'm not sure it won't have any necessary wastes in the process. I mean in the "tow-way communication" that could occur in the process.

You see that it has to work that way - if everything including our bodies would be created from superconducting materials and there would be no lag law like Lenz law - everything would immediately explode from positive feedback of energy accumulation.

Could be.

This fortunate accidental setup of nature laws is something IMHO very possibly special made for us to live and uncover other possibilities only at higher level of advancement of our civilisation.

Yeah, could be too, but just right now, I think you go too rapidly in extrapolations (even very positive ones) and lack to demonstrate that is working indeed presently and that we have had true results demonstrating the validy of these statements.