Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[Allen Burgess]

FreeEnergy26.

The spinner apparently accelerates with the addition of load off an extra coil winding in FreeEnergy26's video. The output winding generates 200 volts, while the input drops to a .8 of a milliwatt. It's possible the Thane Heinz effect is this simple to replicate and benifit from! Maybe the third output wrap is powering the magnet spinner while generating electricity? This is the window winding or Newman coil surround wrap concept. FreeEnergy26's Rodin coil could be built without a form just by first forming a few loops with the three wires, then spiraling around them untill finished. He maintains his rig generates enough power to run itself and generate output. A familiar claim! One we need to scrutinize with closer attention in this case. I have been experimenting and reporting on this effect. He has to be useing the other two coils either as trigger and power, or wired in series for high voltage. A transistor alone or Hall effect and transistor battery combination should be enough to accelerate the spinner over the "Delay Threshold". The joined ends of the series wraped coils attach to the emitter of the "Magnet Kicker Circuit" transistor where the tap is in the schematic. This is the very simple "Pulse Toy" transistor and battery circuit.

It looks as though the third output wrap may turn into both an auxilliary motor power coil and a high voltage alternator as well at high rpm's; If so, the World will find this simple self running motor alternator pretty hard to beat. A photo of my prototype below: Notice my axle hub wheels are to the inside. Vortex math appears to be a false door to explanation, compared to "Lenz Delay" theory.

[elias]

This guy says he's getting 200 volts off a Rodin coil tertiary, and reports drop in input with rotor acceleration.


Rodin Performance-desktop.m4v - YouTube

That looks great! Sychronistically this is one of my ideas! I was thinking about using a Rodin coil for my Newman motor instead of a normal coil. A new experiment is born. The Newman coil generates so much voltage that it is almost impossible to start it running with low voltage.

[Allen Burgess]

Spinner.

This guy says he's getting 200 volts off a Rodin coil tertiary, and reports drop in input with rotor acceleration. He maintains this motor generates enough power to run itself and generate output.


Rodin Performance-desktop.m4v - YouTube

[Allen Burgess]

Mot Cop.

Here's a quote from OUG, it may help. He figures it's 18 times overunity!

"Hello Guys,

As I had promised, today I should supply you with my input / output cop measurements regarding my MOT 950 Hz Experiment... (I will advice you, hold on to your seat...)

Input power going to the primary coil:
Calculated by I2*R (R primary coil) = 0.1A*0.1A*1.8Ohms = 0.018Watts
(This can be calculated this way, because the primary coil is running purely reactive at 950Hz)

Output power secondary coil going to the LED Light Bulb:
First I have to make a correction, in one of my previous posts, I have said that this value was about: 0.94Watts But Unfortunately after doing exact measurements with my scope on the secondary's connected load I had to conclude that it was actually running on: 36V at 0.0091A going to the LED Light Bulb, which gives us: 36V*0.0091A=0.327Watts going to the LED Light Bulb. (with the U and I running in phase)

At the end this will give us a (theoretical) cop of: 0.327/0.018 = 18

But I have to say, for now it only works on small loads... I also have tried connecting a 40Watts/240V rated incandescent light as a load with running the primary on higher (more dangerous voltage levels), and there no Lenz Delay was happening at higher power values... But for now it is a beginning of something new and unexplored...

And further I have to mention, that of course in the MOT experiment my frequency drive controller is consuming a whopping 17.5 Watts only to run Idle. So when you compare this to the 0.327Watts at the output, I must agree that in this way there is no overunity yet... But of course my mostly inefficient frequency drive controller can be replaced with much better and efficient (at lower power ratings) Mosfet H bridge controllers. And further in the video you saw that when comparing the loaded state (18.5 Watts) compared to the primary coil disconnected state (17.5 Watts) Will give you a 1 Watt difference in required input power, which is of course also bigger than the 0.327 Watts output. But this has to do with the primary running purely reactive, for which there is in my MOT experiment no power factor correcting capacitor connected to my primary coil, which can be done in higher efficient replications of my MOT experiment also.

So for now to conclude in short, my MOT experiment is showing that some interesting effects can take place in MOT like transformers running at a higher frequency. But for now I do think that a lot of experimenting (read: try to run on higher power values) needs to be done.

My Related MOT Experiment can be found on:
MOT Microwave Oven Transformer Delayed Lenz Experiment - YouTube

And at gotoluc I would like to say: Good Work Dude...

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide"

[Farmhand]

Overunityguide, can i ask you what the C.O.P. of you're MOT is ?

Looks like it uses 1 watt and output is .327 of a watt or 32.7 % efficient.

Could you confirm that ?

Cheers

[qvision]

@ OUG,

Thank you, i have ordered the wire

[Overunityguide]

@ OUG

What wire diameters are your primary and secondary in the transformer videos ?

Hello qvision,

I have order both coils on:
RS Components | Electronic and Electrical Components

And the exact part/order numbers are:
Primary Coil: 357-766 (21 awg 120m)
Secondary: 357-716 (30 awg 1100m)

Which you can find pretty easy when you type in those order/part numbers into their searing field on their website...

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

[Allen Burgess]

Lenz Delay Confirmation Video.

Good scope shots! We're on the quantum leap threshold.



Test Confirming Delayed Lenz Effect in MOT - YouTube

[quantumuppercut]

Seeing as i have no resin, i decided to try a magnetite core by just filling up the barrel of my coil-former with the powder and compressing it as much as possible (yes i was bored !).

I taped over the ends, spun up the tube magnet, placed the coil in it's usual position and the magnet spun faster and the current draw went down with no short-circuit or load !

This was interesting so i hopefully shorted the coil but it acted like a normal generator, it was the same with a load.

How strange that initial effect, though, when the coil was open ?

If this is repeatable, it is interesting effect.

[toranarod]

I think you should check with Rod's experiment on Mu metal. The best he could get is the same as no core. I think Mu metal has little to no hysteresis losses, but not sure. The way I'm thinking right now is that you will neutralize Lenz to a point where the core becomes plastic. lol But you can try and confirm his finding or discover new one. Good work.

The MU metal has always yielded the best results.
I have one Mu metal core that I interchange with other coils.
it always demonstrates the less drag.

[qvision]

Seeing as i have no resin, i decided to try a magnetite core by just filling up the barrel of my coil-former with the powder and compressing it as much as possible (yes i was bored !).

I taped over the ends, spun up the tube magnet, placed the coil in it's usual position and the magnet spun faster and the current draw went down with no short-circuit or load !

This was interesting so i hopefully shorted the coil but it acted like a normal generator, it was the same with a load.

How strange that initial effect, though, when the coil was open ?

[Allen Burgess]

One thing I'm still speculating about drawing reactive power and the power given by delay Lenz and all. It could be cold current. Something end up like this.

StifflerDr's Channel - YouTube

Still thinking about the issue but if we can check the heating when drawing reactive power to normal DC loading for the same power.

Should be cooling down! Digital IR thermometers with correct accuracy are around $35.

[qvision]

@ QU, 'same as no core' is good, i will try Mu metal at some point, first i want to get a coil with good performance properties, and i have a pound of magnetite to try as core material also.

@ smoky, thanks for that i will try it, i have a plumbing shop near me.

I noticed something i didn't expect, backing/biasing/helper magnets help with this setup, even though it's N/S !

It doesn't seem to matter which way round they are, i get a few Hz extra speed and 1 or 2 mA less current draw.

*** EDIT ADD ***

I just tried a hollow core, the masonry shield rather than the bolt i've been using, and it performs very badly, no acceleration on load.

[smoky]

Yes, those transformer experiments are looking interesting.

My new wire should arrive tomorrow or the day after so that i can confirm whether or not a higher impedance coil can support a wider range of loads and possibly bring the rotor speed up to a higher one than what is achieved with an open coil with core.

With a coil like that, then each additional load that is added further increases rotational speed ...

In the meantime Qvision maybe you'd like to try attaching a couple of thin steel washers insulated from each other, in front of your pickup stator coil.
It takes a finite time for the domains to flip in each washer before saturation. At which point the washers disappear & normal induction occurs.
Meaning the core's induced EMF is later.
Hence when load current is drawn from stator coil rotor should tend to accelerate away and Lenz helps reset the washers toward previous polarity.

Just a thought, Gerry

[quantumuppercut]

Yes, those transformer experiments are looking interesting.

My new wire should arrive tomorrow or the day after so that i can confirm whether or not a higher impedance coil can support a wider range of loads and possibly bring the rotor speed up to a higher one than what is achieved with an open coil with core.

With a coil like that, then each additional load that is added further increases rotational speed ...

I think you should check with Rod's experiment on Mu metal. The best he could get is the same as no core. I think Mu metal has little to no hysteresis losses, but not sure. The way I'm thinking right now is that you will neutralize Lenz to a point where the core becomes plastic. lol But you can try and confirm his finding or discover new one. Good work.