Why Einstein's relativity theory is plain wrong

[lamare]

a picture is worth a thousand words



"And that is mind blowing. Because that means the fractal goes on both ways up to infinity. Up to infinitely big, and down to infinitely small. And *that* is quite something. It means that in theory you can have billions and billions of complete galaxies and everything else you can find out there withing every single piece of matter. ."

As Above so Below

Amen, brother!

But it goes even further than that, cause if the Universe is a fractal and you are in it, you are part of the fractal. And since in a fractal, every part contains the whole, YOU ARE THE UNIVERSE!

In other words: whatever is OUT THERE, is also IN HERE.

And since it's World Disclosure Day today ( World Disclosure Day - July 8 ) let me refer you to Bashar, an awesome "channel" that has fascinating things to say. He calls YOU your

"YOUniverse"

YouTube - ‪Bashar - You are the universe‬‏

[MonsieurM]

This lecture was a great inspiration to me:

In the Nature of Things - A talk by - Gordon Plummer

In the Nature of Things - A talk by - Gordon Plummer

the first half of this vid is just as good:

YouTube - ‪The Universe is a super hologram‬‏

[MonsieurM]

I also believe the Universe is actually a fractal or hologram and that everything is connected and communicating by means of standing longitudinal electric waves. I also believe Walter Russel's idea that the physical Universe is an expression of the mind, as I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post117487

thank you for all the great info and links

a picture is worth a thousand words

And that is mind blowing. Because that means the fractal goes on both ways up to infinity. Up to infinitely big, and down to infinitely small. And *that* is quite something. It means that in theory you can have billions and billions of complete galaxies and everything else you can find out there withing every single piece of matter. .

As Above so Below

or if you remember the ending of one of the MIB movie:

In the final scene of the film, the camera pulls back into the sky through space past our solar system, past millions of stars, ultimately revealing that our galaxy is contained within a spherical container resembling a marble. The container is then picked up by an alien hand that throws it, hitting another 'marble' also containing a galaxy, in what resembles a game of marbles. Both marbles are then picked up by the hand and placed into a bag full of galaxy-containing marbles.

So anyway, I can explain and defend why Einstein's general relativity is wrong, because the Maxwell equations in their current form are wrong and based on a flawed assumption. Based on that, I can only say that Tesla was right and that there is no speed limit. And that does have some consequences, like that you can no longer rule out the possibilities that extra-terrestrial UFO's are visiting us, and that´s about it from my Engineering point of view.

Check this out:

Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works Director Admitted In His Deathbed Confession |Latest UFO News| UFO 2011 Sightings|Alien Pictures|2011 Solar Flares|Disclosure Project|Web Bot

David Sereda with Boyd Bushman - Anti-Gravity / UFO Disclosure

David Sereda with Boyd Bushman - Anti-Gravity / UFO Disclosure

it would be good to note the forces he talks about and add to it

E=M3/4

It is called Kleiber's Law. (it define fractal structures)

It states that the energy needed by an organism at rest (not doing any specific exercise), is not proportional to its mass, but sub-linear.

It can be attributed to many factors and one of them is that the more massive an organism is, the less surface per volume it present. If the organism is represented par a sphere of diameter D, volume scale with D^3, but surface scales with D^2. But energy produced by the body is proportional to volume, while energy lost is proportional to external surface.

To sum up, a little body loose a lot of heat and its little body can not sustain it. Therefore there is a lower limit to the size of hot blooded animals, which is bigger than the one for cold blooded ones.

YouTube - ‪Fractals: frequency, the heart, and cancer‬‏

[Farmhand]

In my opinion A Scalar wave is like a wave of people it does not go up and down just forward. But it is still a wave, in my opinion the term Scalar wave is valid. Don't ask me to explain my reasoning in any more detail than that though. I just see it as a longways push. I don't get hung up on the term wave. But I use it.

Cheers

Hi lamare, I stand corrected, obviously a scalar potential cannot be a wave.

I was confused of course. with all the different terms and how different people use them it is difficult.

Maybe there should be a thread of "Terms".

No such thing as Scalar wave's, got it.

That's not too hard to accept, didn't hurt a bit.

Cheers

[Armagdn03]

I also believe the Universe is actually a fractal or hologram and that everything is connected and communicating by means of standing longitudinal electric waves. I also believe Walter Russel's idea that the physical Universe is an expression of the mind, as I posted here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6779-great-resource-ether-theory.html#post117487

I also posted some things on fractals / holographic Universe here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6270-ultimate-secret-free-energy-split-postive-negative-2.html#post109117

-:-



You know, there's an old programmers joke:



So, the point is: there is no elementary particle. It's a fractal!

And that is mind blowing. Because that means the fractal goes on both ways up to infinity. Up to infinitely big, and down to infinitely small. And *that* is quite something. It means that in theory you can have billions and billions of complete galaxies and everything else you can find out there withing every single piece of matter.

Go look for the lectures by Nassim Haramein ( The Resonance Project ). Very interesting stuff. You are going to love his "string theory".

And finally, that suggests the Universe may be a hologram:
The Holographic Universe - Crystalinks

Update: If you read this, you have a second reason why General Relativity should go to the trash can.



The first reason is given by Dr. Charles Kenneth Thornhill : http://www.etherphysics.net/CKT4.pdf - The whole idea of a fixed speed of light basically originates in a mathematical error. Because they got the Maxwell equations wrong, they used some freak coordinate transform known as the Lorentz transform, which can only work if the speed of light is constant. Now, we *know* the speed of light is not constant in the vicinity of matter. So, really, this is a piece of junk. Sorry, Einstein, you were wrong on this one.

But, you were quite something too:

Albert Einstein quotes




So, I'm sure you'll forgive me for what I said just here.

Update 2: And of course, Tesla got it right all along:

PowerPedia:Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity - PESWiki





Update 3:

The Holographic Universe - Crystalinks



So, there we got our fractal again.

-:-


However, while I believe the structure of the Universe is holographic/fractal, I cannot say why nor can I "engineer" "it", even though I'm still waiting for this "law of actraction" stuff to manifest some result I intended to attrack: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ity-howto.html


So anyway, I can explain and defend why Einstein's general relativity is wrong, because the Maxwell equations in their current form are wrong and based on a flawed assumption. Based on that, I can only say that Tesla was right and that there is no speed limit. And that does have some consequences, like that you can no longer rule out the possibilities that extra-terrestrial UFO's are visiting us, and that´s about it from my Engineering point of view.

Thanks Lamare, I really agree with many of the ideas being thrown about this thread, good reading.

[lamare]

If i may venture a little on this:

First of i would like to say that I am a proponent of the Unifying Fractal Theory (or as i call it the Super-Hologram Theory). Based on this theory, and as some of you are well aware in all of my post i try to point that out, I consider that everything that surrounds us is a Fractal/Coil/Capacitor Adaptive Antenna, and all resonate following the Phi or Law of Octave. now read this:

I also believe the Universe is actually a fractal or hologram and that everything is connected and communicating by means of standing longitudinal electric waves. I also believe Walter Russel's idea that the physical Universe is an expression of the mind, as I posted here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6779-great-resource-ether-theory.html#post117487

THE supreme service which man can render to evolving man is to answer for him, dynamically, the great heretofore unanswerable question concerning the One universal force which man calls God, or Mind, or by other names. For long ages man has impatiently awaited the knowledge which would tear away the veil from the invisible universe which lies beyond his perception and bring it within the range of both his perception and his exact comprehension. Mathematical and measurable proof of the existence of but One Mind, One force and One substance would give to man absolute control over matter, the power to create, even as God creates, and within the same limitations.

Man is omnipotent when he but knows his omnipotence. Until that day he is but man. Voltaire said that man could never comprehend God for man must be God to comprehend Him. Man is God and therefore God is within the comprehension of man. Man is Mind. Man is matter. Mind and matter are One. God is Mind. This is a universe of Mind, a finite universe, limited as to cause, and to the effect of cause. A universe of limitations cannot be infinite. There is no infinite universe. A finite universe, in which the effects of cause are limited, must also be limited as to cause; so when that measureable cause is known then can man comprehend and measure all effects.

The effects of cause are complex and mystify man but cause itself is simple. The universe is a multiplicity of changing effects of but One unchanging cause. All things are universal. Nothing is which is not universal. Nothing is of itself alone. Man and Mind and all creating things are universal. No man can say: "I alone am I."

There is but One universe, One Mind, One force, One substance.

I also posted some things on fractals / holographic Universe here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6270-ultimate-secret-free-energy-split-postive-negative-2.html#post109117

-:-

The transmitters I believe are crystals much smaller then we could ever imagine which were created when our space (Universe) was formed.

You know, there's an old programmers joke:

In order to understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.

So, the point is: there is no elementary particle. It's a fractal!

And that is mind blowing. Because that means the fractal goes on both ways up to infinity. Up to infinitely big, and down to infinitely small. And *that* is quite something. It means that in theory you can have billions and billions of complete galaxies and everything else you can find out there withing every single piece of matter.

Go look for the lectures by Nassim Haramein ( The Resonance Project ). Very interesting stuff. You are going to love his "string theory".

And finally, that suggests the Universe may be a hologram:
The Holographic Universe - Crystalinks

Update: If you read this, you have a second reason why General Relativity should go to the trash can.

Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light.

The first reason is given by Dr. Charles Kenneth Thornhill : http://www.etherphysics.net/CKT4.pdf - The whole idea of a fixed speed of light basically originates in a mathematical error. Because they got the Maxwell equations wrong, they used some freak coordinate transform known as the Lorentz transform, which can only work if the speed of light is constant. Now, we *know* the speed of light is not constant in the vicinity of matter. So, really, this is a piece of junk. Sorry, Einstein, you were wrong on this one.

But, you were quite something too:

Albert Einstein quotes

“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.”

So, I'm sure you'll forgive me for what I said just here.

Update 2: And of course, Tesla got it right all along:

PowerPedia:Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity - PESWiki

"... Supposing that the bodies act upon the surrounding space causing curving of the same, it appears to my simple mind that the curved spaces must react on the bodies, and producing the opposite effects, straightening out the curves. Since action and reaction are coexistent, it follows that the supposed curvature of space is entirely impossible - But even if it existed it would not explain the motions of the bodies as observed. Only the existence of a field of force can account for the motions of the bodies as observed, and its assumption dispenses with space curvature. All literature on this subject is futile and destined to oblivion. So are all attempts to explain the workings of the universe without recognizing the existence of the ether and the indispensable function it plays in the phenomena."
"My second discovery was of a physical truth of the greatest importance. As I have searched the entire scientific records in more than a half dozen languages for a long time without finding the least anticipation, I consider myself the original discoverer of this truth, which can be expressed by the statement: There is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment."

Update 3:

The Holographic Universe - Crystalinks

"A hologram teaches us that some things in the universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart something constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is made, we will only get smaller wholes.

This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

So, there we got our fractal again.

-:-


However, while I believe the structure of the Universe is holographic/fractal, I cannot say why nor can I "engineer" "it", even though I'm still waiting for this "law of actraction" stuff to manifest some result I intended to attrack: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ity-howto.html


So anyway, I can explain and defend why Einstein's general relativity is wrong, because the Maxwell equations in their current form are wrong and based on a flawed assumption. Based on that, I can only say that Tesla was right and that there is no speed limit. And that does have some consequences, like that you can no longer rule out the possibilities that extra-terrestrial UFO's are visiting us, and that´s about it from my Engineering point of view.

[lamare]

That is why the EM theory is pushed so hard. With this false idea of how things work, people are not able to really understand Tesla and what his ideas were on the ether. How can you understand Tesla's patents or words when you don't even know what his understanding about the fundamentals were?

When guys like Meyl and other degreed gentlemen try to explain Tesla using Maxwell's equations, they are showing how little they understand.

If Tesla held that Hertz was wrong and his waves does not exist, he is also saying Maxwell is wrong. How many people do you see trying to talk about Tesla and in the same breath try to tie Maxwell and Hertz into that "understanding"? How can that be when Tesla said EM waves don't exist and that they are just longitudinal waves in the ether?

And Scalar waves? Come one guys, scalar is not a wave. Scalars are a constant in an equation and they do not change in time.

Err, maybe you didn't notice, but I totally agree with Tesla on:
1. Maxwell is wrong in it's current form (as Meyl clearly shows),
2. exactly because their current form does not support longitudinal electric waves and because they are the basis for what Dollard calls "the Einsteinian Lie".
3. Classic Herzian, or transversal waves, do not exist in the ether, because it has fluid-like properties and transversal waves can only exist in a solid or at the border of two media with different densities, AFAIK.

What does exist in the ether, are particles, which are one and the same thing as what is called EM waves. However, these are not "simple" transversal waves, but some kind of standing wave in the shape of a vortex or swirl in the ether.

And indeed, calling longitudinal waves "scalar waves" is what Eric Dollard, THE Tesla expert still alive, calls "an oxymoron":

http://www.energeticforum.com/90090-post71.html

I had a young student from Korea visit me a few years back. He had no problem understanding the basic concept of producing an energy synthesizing apparatus, because his mind was uncontaminated by all of the Bedini/Bearden falsehoods. The term Scalar Wave is an oxymoron, as scalar is part of the propagation constant that is NOT A WAVE! (Idiots!)

And more from Dollard on this:

...for those who’s minds have been polluted by the prevalent quantum goddess reality:

Let us turn to the Heaviside Equation which is the most fundamental equations in all of Electrical Engineering:

(RG + XB) + j (XG – RB) = propagation constant squared

where:

R resistance in Ohms
G conductance in Siemens
X reactance in Henrys per second
B susceptance in Farads per second

Therefore:

RG is the scalar or DC component that is NOT A WAVE,
XB is the longitudinal or AC component and is an alternating electric wave

XG is the transverse or OC component and is a forward moving oscillating electric wave. RB is the transverse or OC component and is a reverse moving oscillating electric wave

This equation allows for all electrical conditions in time and or space and combinations thereof. The example equation is the dimensions of time (see: Steinmetz Theory of Transient Electric Waves and Phenomenon and also my paper: Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave.)

Example:

The air in the room; the room is filled with air and has atmospheric pressure of 2998 mB, your stereo is blasting away, the speakers are creating longitudinal waves having length and frequency and exert a oscillating force centered on 2998 mB (+ or – 10 mB)

RG is the air pressure, a scalar
XB is the sound of the stereo, a longitudinal wave

XG = RB, thus no transverse waves exist (XG – RB) = ZERO

Hence (RG + XB) is what is going on in the room, the disinformers have convinced you that this whole quantity (RB + XB) is scalar, RG is the only scalar component. It is DC and has NO FREQUENCY, no WAVELENGTH and thus NO WAVE! SCALER = NO WAVE - GET IT???

If people don’t get this fundamental concept – my time is better spent talking to my pet Coyote… I have nothing further to say…

[mikrovolt]

interesting thread, strong reasonings.
Tom Bearden said there are semi longitudinal waves.

As a pure sine wave takes on this kinetic component there
needs to be something observable. This " unobservable event "
was the real obstacle that allowed business, industry and power
to subdue tesla's effort. Naudin demonstrated scalar waves can
penetrate a faraday cage.

We are completely surrounded by transverse structured technology
as silver2gold reminds us how this developed. Another question is how to
bring the technology forward.

[lamare]

Let's quote Eric Dollard on the Herzian waves matter:

Tuks DrippingPedia : Theory Of Wireless Power

Upon completion of these wireless plants in 1919 the U.S. government established the Radio Corporation Of America (R.C.A.) to take control of the plants constructed upon U.S. territory. R.C.A., Marconi Wireless Co., and others went on to develop wireless (now radio) communication based upon transverse, or Hertzian, waveforms. The culmination of the transverse wave antenna was the R.C.A. type "D" director, later to become the well known rhombic antenna, figure (2).

These developments firmly entrenched the use of Hertzian waves in the practice of wireless communication, thereby diverting interest from the waveforms discovered by Dr. Nikola Tesla. Tesla's progress in commercial development was further delayed by his absolute insistance upon establisihing a perfect system, the "World System", of wireless power and communication. The World System was much more costly and complex than the simple installations of Marconi. To quote Dr. Tesla's thoughts about the development of wireless at this point in history:

"The commercial application of the art has led to the construction of larger transmitters and multipilication of their number, greater distances had to be covered and it became imperative to employ receiving devices of ever greater sensitiveness. All these changes have co-operated in emphasizing the trouble and seriously impairing the reliability and value of the plants. To such a degree has this been the case that conservative business men and financiers have come to look upon this method of conveying intelligence as one offering but very limited possibilities, and the Government has deemed it advisable to assume control. This unfortunate state of affairs, fatal to the enlishment of capital and healthful competitive development, could have been avoided had electricians not remained to this day under a delusive theory and had the practical exploiters of this advance not permitted enterprise to outrun technical competence".

Dr. Tesla remained unswayed by these commercial developments and their impact upon scientific thought. Tesla understood that the transverse, or Hertzian, waveform was useless for the transmission of electric energy on an industrial scale. The scattering nature of these waves represents the primary limitation to efficient energy transfer, to quote:

"Nothing illustrates this better than the recent demonstrations of a number of experts with very short waves, which have created the impression that power will be eventually transmitted by such means. In reality, experiments of this kind are the very denial of the possibility of economic transmission of electric energy."

This of course brings to mind the recent proposal to transmit from a satellite in outer space megawatts of photo-voltaic energy via a micro-wave beam down to the earth's surface.

Now the essence according to Dollard:

Tuks DrippingPedia : Induction In The Dimension Of Time

The complimentary nature of magnetic and dielectric inductions led maxwell to discover the existance of a constant numerical proportion between the units of measure in magnetism and the units of measure in. dielectricity, this constant being numerically equal to the velocity of light squared. This famous discovery led Maxwell to the THEORY OF ELECTRO-MAGNETISM, this theory stating that electric waves are ident*ical to waves of light, and thereby gave the notion that magnetism and dielectricity are inseparable.

The Maxwell theory of electro-magnetism dominated research into electric waves, particularly after the experiments of H. Hertz. Nikola Tesla comment on this matter:

"I do not hesitate to say that in a short time it will be recognized as one of the most remarkable and inexplicable aberrations of the scientific mind which has ever been recorded in history."

Unfortunately this time has not yet arrived.

Prof. J.J. Thompson took a much less mathematical approach and more physical approach to Faraday's discoveries. Prof. Thompson considered Faraday's contiguous aether particles and lines of induction as CONCRETE PHYSICAL REALITIES, despite the shift in contemporary thought (cir 1900) back to what resembles action at a distance thru an aetherless, and now a spiritless, dead, space.

Thompson considered the propagation of magnetic inductions as dis*tinctly INDEPENDENT of each other, rather than these two inductions propagating cojointly as given by the theory of electro-magnetism. He conceived the propagation of magnetic induction, because of the lines being transverse to the direction of propagation, as being retarded by the broadside drag they encounter in their motion thru the aether; Whereas the propagation of dielectric induction, because of these lines being directed along the path of propagation, are not retarded, but glide smoothly thru the aether with little or no opposition to motion.

Analogously, the propagation of a parachute thru the atmosphere is akin to magnetic propagation and hence the effect of drag, whereas the prop*agation of a missile thru the atmosphere is akin to dielectric propagation. Hence, dielectric induction propagates faster and thus arrives sooner than the magnetic induction, and thus sooner than the electro-magnetic energy. This concept is of prime importance for the understanding of the works of Dr. Nikola Tesla.

The velocity of dielectric propagation was experimentally verified by Prof. Wheatstone to be π/2 times faster than the velocity of light. Tesla also states this velocity in his writings on wave propagation.

In view of these scientific discoveries, and the fact that Oliver Heaviside developed a theory of faster than light electrons which was confirmed by Dr. Tesla, it is a wonder how the present notions of electro-magnetism and its limiting velocity as purported by Einstein an his follo*wers have dominated electric theory. It is of particular interest to note that C.P. Steinmetz did not consider Hertzian waves as transmission of energy but as energy loss by the hysteresis of the aether.

Update: ALso check this one out and compare with Eric Dollard, who also says that Tesla's wireless system was actually a one-wire system, which uses the Earth itself as a conductor:

Tesla's Big Mistake?

Tesla was using the ground as a transmission line. He was correct when he insisted that he was producing longitudinal waves in the "natural medium." He was correct in saying that the ground was not just a voltage reference. In this case the "natural medium" is the population of mobile ions in the dirt and oceans which cause the Earth act as a conductor. He was converting the Earth's surface into a "G-line" conductor. Any electrical device could intercept a portion of that energy, as long as that device was connected to the ground and to an elevated metal object.

So, what was Tesla's big mistake? Initially he did not realize that the Earth's atmosphere was critically important for his system to work. If the Earth had acted like a perfectly-conducting metal ball hanging in a vacuum, then Tesla's system would not have worked. The waves would have travelled along the ground and then shot straight out into space. His system would have been like a "G-line" with a sharp bend in the middle: except for a bit of diffraction, the waves refuse to follow the bend and instead go right off the cable and are lost. Because of the "dielectric" effect of the atmosphere, and also because a conductive ionosphere was present, Tesla's system was feasible. Yet any scientist of the time would "correctly" see that Tesla's system totally violates well-known theory. If Tesla had started out from known theory, he would never have pursued the path he did. Tesla actually started out with empirical observations that the Earth resonated electromagnetically like a struck bell. The atmosphere and the ionosphere made this so, but Tesla only knew that it worked, and he really did not know why, at least at first.

[MonsieurM]

I'll Start:

Quite different conditions exist in my system in which the electromagnetic waves or radiations are designedly minimized. the connection of one of, the terminals of the transmitting circuit to the ground having, itself, the effect of reducing the energy of these radiations to about one-half, Under observance of 'proper rules and artifices the distance is of little or no consequence, and by skillful application of the principle of "individualization," repeatedly referred to the messages may be rendered both non-interfering and non-interferable. This invention, which I have described in technical publications, attempts to imitate, in a very crude way, the nervous system in the human body.' Nicolas Tesla

[MonsieurM]

Let's try to turn this a bit around (think of a Rubic Cube ); Let's assume that Einstein was wrong. the true question is then , what did Tesla believe in (I have my own little theory on that ) when he was conducting his experiments...

[7imix]

Could it be that tesla considered the "hertzian wave theory" and electromagnetic radiation to be different things? Even though people since the beginning of the theory have referred to electromagnetic waves as hertzian waves, tesla may not have conflated the two. He could have logically disagreed with Hertz's theory while at the same time understanding transverse electromagnetic waves.

Consider the following 1916 quote from "Tesla on his work with Alternating Currents"

Nikola Tesla On His Work With Alternating Currents -- Chapter IV

Counsel

Let's see if I understand this correctly.* If you have radiation or electromagnetic waves going from your system, the energy is wasted?

Tesla

Absolutely wasted.* From my circuit you can get either electromagnetic waves, 90 percent of electromagnetic waves if you like, and 10 percent in the current energy that passes through the earth.* Or, you can reverse the process and get 10 percent of the energy in electromagnetic waves and 90 percent in energy of the current that passes through the earth.

So Tesla does acknowledge electromagnetic waves, but talks about how the amount of power required to transmit intelligence with them is excessive. Radio stations, television stations, cell phone towers, HAARP, all waste huge amounts of energy because they are based on (according to tesla) the flawed Hertz theory.

I really don't see how the claim "tesla believed transverse electromagnetic waves did not exist" can be made when tesla himself talks about making them. At the same time I do see how tesla could have not agreed with the Hertzian wave theory.

[Farmhand]

OK I'll bite and I'm a little confused.

So are the hertz waves refered to the same as Transverse Electro Magnetic waves ? Theoretically.

So is it impossible for hertz waves to actually exsist ?

Then what powers my lights ?

When we use wire's do hertz waves travel the border between the wire and the air or the insulator.

The border of two media, water and air or wire and air. seems maybe even two layers of air of different densities, or metals.

Are two layers of air of different density considered different media.

Then can somebody describe the nature of the electricity that is flowing to my house from the grid system ?

Lets not get ahead of ourselves and make any rash deciscions here.

Makes me wonder how Tesla's system could be so different if there is no EM to be different from.

Cheers

[SilverToGold]

Well said MonsieurM.

I think Lamare's thread is very interesting and I agree with the idea that Einstein is wrong, I just wanted to make a point that Tesla very clearly does not buy into this "modernism" brought about by Einstein. Tesla was very aware of all the works being done after him and he had already answered most of these questions for himself to quite a high level.

Who is right and who is wrong?

Well, let's see... Einstein's work is very open and out there for everyone to see. There has been a massive push of his stolen ideas. We are constantly inundated by his "genius". You can find any of his writings and he is praised by the main stream science. He is one of the father's of quantum mechanics and mainstream science ideas.

Tesla's work has been stolen and hidden away. The government confiscated his work and combed out all the really great stuff. His things were grabbed before his body was even cold and has never been released by the government by the office of Alien Property even though he WAS a US citizen at the time of his death. His stuff is classified above the nuclear bomb information. He has been marginalized and almost erased from science books. He had over 700 patents. You will not find even half that number available. Where are they?

So who do you guys really think knew what he was talking about?

[MonsieurM]

First of all: May I kindly request you guys to take it easy with the font size button? There's no need to yell, I hear ya....

Let's first make one thing clear: Tesla was a human being as far as I know, not a saint. And human beings do make mistakes, including Tesla. As much as I like Tesla's theories and as much as I regard him the greatest scientist and teacher in recorded history, I can not and will not regard his theories as infallible and perfect in every way.

Whether Dr Tesla was right or wrong in his theory is subject to debate, but you are missing the point, in order for us to understand How he succeeded in transferring energy wirelessly you have to look through his eyes, not yours

As long as you persist in viewing his experiments through your own referential, you are condemned to replicate his experiment for educational purpose (ie: garage tinkering). Modulate your mind to match his and I'm sure a world of inspiration awaits us. I am sure that his theory may show some discrepancies, but remember this, he was trying to explain what he observed in his experiments based on what he believed to be true not the other way around. From his own words:

Experience is made before the law is formulated, both are related like cause an effect. Nicholas Tesla