Harvesting Energy From the Sun Using Crystals

[Dave45]

MonsieurM
notice the structured ice surrounded by the clear ice like in the cell

[Dave45]

is this the one you used

No I used the original one I wound like the magnetic field, the coil I wound using iron wire got hot really fast, to be honest I think a normal coil would work,

[Dave45]

I know your thinking I cant have a spark gap on both sides of my coil and get the gap to fire, what I did was use the spark plug, connected the wire coming into the coil to the outside of the spark plug, it works.

[Dave45]

Iv got an idea for the toroid, what I want to do is wind three coils onto the toroid the coils would be wound
first wind cw
second wind ccw
repetitively
use a distributor from a six cylinder vehicle and fire the coils, if you ran one wind to a distributor wire and the oposite wind to the next distributor wire you could fire the coil first in one direction and then fire the same coil in the other direction, the coils wound like this are a bifilar type arrangement.
Not sure how you could harvest energy from the ice core of a toroid, but it would make a superconducting ring

[Dave45]

the structured ice is conducting thats a phenomenon in itself
we have to take it further
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What I need to do is freeze the cell without structureing the ice and see if Im still getting high voltage in the aluminum plate. Will do
Dave

If so then we are getting a dielectric breakdown because ice is nonconducting, but I think its the structure, I put my meter leads into the exposed ice and was not getting high voltage.

[petar113507]

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http://keelynet.com/keely/puha1.txt
This paper is quite astounding in that it correlates with Keelys'
claim that water can be progressively dissociated at 620, 630 and
12,000 cycles per second. These are on the molecular, atomic and
etheric levels respectively.
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The velocity of fluid at any point in a vortex is equal to a physical constant divided by the radius from the suction center. That is to say that velocity increases as the radius gets smaller. In a perfect vortex, as the radius approaches zero its fluid velocity will approach infinity. As infinite velocity is impossible in the physical universe, something has to give. In the case of water the molecules begin to dissociate into a vapor. This dissociation is accompanied by the generation of high voltage electricity. We have measured charges as high as 12,000 volts in the exact center of a liquid vortex! The pressure in the center of a vortex is theoretically infinitely negative. In this condition, space would be turned inside out.

WOAH. So the number 12000 popped up in its 'etheric disassociation' frequency, AND the number of volts?

This vortex property reminds me a lot of another russell diagram I once saw...



Russell also says that the sun generates its own hydrogen, as it burns it. Russell also made some interesting experiments on the use of magnetic feilds and the liberation of hydrogen, from water vapor. The PDF can be found here.

Russel - Use of Magnetif Fields for Hydrogen Production.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download

Those intersecting spirals (used in that PDF to describe the intersecting magnetic spins -- intersecting over the molecules), look an awful lot like how he describes the sun to be generating its own hydrogen.

So much to connect. All of it, so beautiful.

==Romo

[petar113507]

I know your thinking I cant have a spark gap on both sides of my coil and get the gap to fire, what I did was use the spark plug, connected the wire coming into the coil to the outside of the spark plug, it works.

A picture, or a circuit diagram here would be very useful. The configuration I'm thinking of right now is essentially a short circuit across the spark gap? Can you clairify what your setup is?

I can think of using several different coils to produce a ring of structured water inside (like a bowl, or bucket). (structured ice torrid, insulated in non-conducting water?)

I'm going to the thrift shop and hardware store tomorrow, hang in there

==Romo

[shawnnweed]

Hey Petar
Glad someone is taking interest Im using one coil low voltage ac , I uploaded a drawing.
I havent had a chance to play with the cell since I put the copper screen in all my battery's are dead, charging now.
Something Iv notice this thing seems to draw energy from whatever its connected to, might be good to try an antenna.

After the cell is froze I hooked it up to a high voltage setup I hurriedly made, pulsing into one side of the coil, I had a spark gap on both sides of the coil firing into one wire would fire from the other wire back to my positive lead, but something I noticed if I put a ground wire close to the wire coming from the aluminum plate it would jump from the plate to the ground wire before it would jump to the positive pole, like the easiest path was through the structured ice.

My electronic skills are nil at best, I hope someone with more knowledge would take an interest in this.

Iv often thought that the iron cores in a transformer were wasting energy, energy that could be focused and collected, this is going to be a wild ride that will ultimately lead to ou

Im currently using a Smith (caduceus) type coil, I would be interested to see if a normal coil would do the same.
The Smith coil I made isnt the normal coil you see in the illustrations.

Iv been playing with a toroid I made but havent had very good results yet, so I switched back to a solenoid type coil, its easier to see whats going on, ultimately a toroid will probably be the way to go, after we understand whats going on.

Now the setup that I had before didnt have the copper screen in, and the aluminum plate was grounded while the ice froze.
I pulsed the new cell with the screen in a couple of times before my battery went completely dead and was getting some interesting results will let you guys know.

Dave

This might sound a bit crazy but MonsieurM and I were discussing how you could theoretically mix puled dc and ac to create a resonating helix that much resembles a DNA helix. If we are correct about the behavior once they resonate then the mixture could behave much like a superconductor. If you have realized how to structure ice then you could also learn how to super-structure it. Just a thought.

[Dave45]

It seems the screen didnt have the effect I wanted, also freezeing the cell without the aluminum plate grounded didnt make the connection.
I wonder if I connected the screen to an antenna and the plate to ground, would it make the connections wanted, will give it a try.
Dave

[MonsieurM]

petar113507 has provided us with some good insight in his post:

http://www.energeticforum.com/149708-post95.html

, and as recommend by him, i looked for posts made by Powerme, seeing that it was going to be a tedious work, i actually found a compilation of all his post: it's in pdf:

Power1.pdf - 429 Kb

Looks like we are pretty much on the same page

Guys read page one of power1 document, pulsed DC/AC maybe the way to go ....

[Dave45]

I just realized positive current likes iron, Im going to use iron screen, its galvanized, even better zinc

I noticed the copper screen didn't seem to attract the rings surrounding the coil that's when it hit me, iron.

Im still going to hook the iron screen to an antenna and the aluminum plate to ground

[Dave45]

Kinda strange the rings seem to form down to the copper screen then stopped almost like it was repelled at first I thought the copper screen was conducting the positive current and thats why they had stopped at the screen but in retrospect I think it was repelled, anyway Im going to put another cookie in the oven tonight.
Dave

[Dave45]

With the positive current flowing and dissipating in the outer rings and the electrons moving through the center core we will have created a sink an electron well.
It should cause an avalanche of negative electrons through the core and into the aluminum plate

[Dave45]

Iv changed the cell around a little, I drilled a hole in the side bottom so the lead to the aluminum plate comes out at the bottom, waiting for the silicon to dry now.
Here's an attachment of the new cell, I put it in attachment form because the pic is so small you cant read it if I just insert it as an image.

I'll insert the image as well.

Dave

[MonsieurM]

I hope for some different results because it would show as it was posted before , that Iron is ying and Copper is yang....

Thanks Dave for finding the time to keep us updated