Trees as radiant energy collector

[MonsieurM]

Wow!

Ive just tried Lasersabers ''Barber pole'' battery. I'm getting 5 milliamps now ive left it for a while. Hopefully I'll be able to double the voltage by putting it in series with another one, and then maybe I can make some other stuff light up. Still aiming for a CFL

The barber pole is just a carbon welding rod (copper coated) with a layer of cotton (old t-shirt) and magnesium ribbon wrapped round it like a solenoid. Im burying them slightly off the horizontal as I wanted them pointing to the magnetic dip.

It seems also important to note that positioning the earth battery following the cardinal points also play a non negligent role in obtaining higher voltage.

now that i think about it, isn't there moss/ mushroom that grows on a tree and follows a certain cardinal point...

going to have to research that...I think that another clue on how to turn a tree into a radiant antenna may be found in researching how other plant create a symbiotic relationship with a tree...these plants (according to all I've said before ) are also adaptive fractal antennas, just that they "coupled" with the tree , being a larger antenna , to draw energy.

just observe and study what grows on and around a tree

Nature has so much to teach us, I have to say that the more i search, the more i find myself dumbfounded by the beauty of the natural process...

[MonsieurM]

Ah, that would be a good way of discovering the potential energy

Here's a mental image for MonsieurM....picture a Tesla coil with the huge sparks flying off out of the top of the coil. Snapshot the image in your mind and place over the top a tree trunk and leaves onto the HV spikes

If you have the space Seth, chaining up a few of those barber poles should net enough current to fire up one of your Tesla coils (on a Slayer type circuit). You'd then get your CFL lit.
I've had a mini tower runinng from solar before now and if you use say a C1213 or similar high hFE low saturation transistor you'll fire her up on a volt. Just a case then of increasing battery count, up to the point that the CFL begins to light. Twirly energy saver bulbs sometimes work best when held upside down about an inch from the top of a mini coil...such that you can see where you're going with the voltage needs for brighter, literally.

To incorporate trees (fractal pattern ), I have wondered for some time about what may be termed pinging, first tree transmits, other tree bounces back the energy, yet increased due to the child on a swing analogy(exponential function ). The switching time (cycle)of the transistor being the time interval that creates the push effect of the swing, rather than an immediate bounce back again. In such a case, the first tree is the sender Tesla tower (roots being Ground and trunk being tower), the receiver tree is resonant with it. Trimming the tree trims the frequency to match the first tree.

If I May put it in other words:

If you want to understand the world as a system then you need to investigate three key components.

Cycles your 3
Fractal patterns your 6
Exponential functions your 9



If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla:






FYI

Electromagnetic Wave Localization in Photonic Fractals

http://www.jwri.osaka-u.ac.jp/publication/trans-jwri/pdf/341nmscp-takema.pdf

Fractal structures have no periodicity and no translational symmetry like crystal structures.

remember Walter Russell's Law of Crystallization (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-crystals.html)

[Slider2732]

Ah, that would be a good way of discovering the potential energy

Here's a mental image for MonsieurM....picture a Tesla coil with the huge sparks flying off out of the top of the coil. Snapshot the image in your mind and place over the top a tree trunk and leaves onto the HV spikes

If you have the space Seth, chaining up a few of those barber poles should net enough current to fire up one of your Tesla coils (on a Slayer type circuit). You'd then get your CFL lit.
I've had a mini tower runinng from solar before now and if you use say a C1213 or similar high hFE low saturation transistor you'll fire her up on a volt. Just a case then of increasing battery count, up to the point that the CFL begins to light. Twirly energy saver bulbs sometimes work best when held upside down about an inch from the top of a mini coil...such that you can see where you're going with the voltage needs for brighter, literally.

To incorporate trees, I have wondered for some time about what may be termed pinging, first tree transmits, other tree bounces back the energy, yet increased due to the child on a swing analogy. The switching time of the transistor being the time interval that creates the push effect of the swing, rather than an immediate bounce back again. In such a case, the first tree is the sender Tesla tower (roots being Ground and trunk being tower), the receiver tree is resonant with it. Trimming the tree trims the frequency to match the first tree.

[MonsieurM]

have you tried wet ground vs dry ground

you could test that in two pots, one dry the other wet

[seth]

Wow!

Ive just tried Lasersabers ''Barber pole'' battery. I'm getting 5 milliamps now ive left it for a while. Hopefully I'll be able to double the voltage by putting it in series with another one, and then maybe I can make some other stuff light up. Still aiming for a CFL

The barber pole is just a carbon welding rod (copper coated) with a layer of cotton (old t-shirt) and magnesium ribbon wrapped round it like a solenoid. Im burying them slightly off the horizontal as I wanted them pointing to the magnetic dip.

[MonsieurM]

Seth,

if you want to do a quick experiment, you could try this , but you'll need enough wire

instead of hooking it up to a receiver, try hooking it up to your earth battery, the more we experience, the more we will know what works and what does not

I'd be curious to know if you do the same set as proposed by Wilbur Smith, but instead of a ferrite core, braid the wire around a tree and hook it up to a receiver:

We were told about a system which uses a radio transmitter as an energy source but a special antenna converter, which radiates doughnut-shaped waves, which are not time functions. We built a couple and find they have the most extraordinary properties. If you wish you could build a unit and try to establish a circuit to our group here in Ottawa. Following are the construction instructions.

One ferrite core (One Tree ), material with the highest permeability (see http://www.energeticforum.com/142700-post67.html )and dielectric constant (water in tree), about 8 inches to a foot long, and about 1 inch in diameter. About 20 feet of plastic insulated #14 electric house wire. Starting at the center of the wire and at one end of the core wind on the wire as closely as possible, with the first turn under and then over, so that the winding will be exactly symmetrical. It will start at one end of the core and finish at the other end and will resemble a solenoid with a bifilar winding. It is important that the winding be exactly symmetrical.

When connected to a transmitter, treat it as any normal antenna for loading and tuning. There will be a few points of magnetic domain resonance which will be lossy but anywhere else the device will generate the required waves. It will not matter whether or not the antenna converter is shielded as the doughnut waves go through anything. The most remarkable property of this system is that the waves can be directly MENTALLY...

Yours truly,

Wilbur Smith

see also http://www.energeticforum.com/142075-post18.html

[MonsieurM]

Very interesting links Monsieur!



I'm trying to think of new things to try with my Earth battery - Im getting 3 and a half milliamps at the moment from 9 thin copper pipe offcuts (dads a retired plumber, so there are loads lying around - ill try some big ones soon and at greater depth) and a kilo of magnesium.

Im mentioning it to see if you had any suggestions for how I could incorporate a tree into the design.

Dad is gonna work on building me a copper pipe pyramid.....this is alternative science, so im up for alternative ideas on where to place it, and any modifications... Im thinking deep under the soil. So far, the deeper i go, the more milliamps i get - but i havent tried very deep yet, so maybe there is a point where the magnetic dip is reached, and the output just decreases after that.

Seth and thank you for joining the legion of F.R.E.E (Free Renewable Energy for Everyone )


give me a little time to think about it , in the meantime check this post out:

http://www.energeticforum.com/144158-post108.html

also if you know where the main water pipe is (see post http://www.energeticforum.com/142700-post67.html) you could try your earth battery on top of it and see what it those

, let me know if you need more info...

[seth]

Very interesting links Monsieur!



I'm trying to think of new things to try with my Earth battery - Im getting 3 and a half milliamps at the moment from 9 thin copper pipe offcuts (dads a retired plumber, so there are loads lying around - ill try some big ones soon and at greater depth) and a kilo of magnesium.

Im mentioning it to see if you had any suggestions for how I could incorporate a tree into the design.

Dad is gonna work on building me a copper pipe pyramid.....this is alternative science, so im up for alternative ideas on where to place it, and any modifications... Im thinking deep under the soil. So far, the deeper i go, the more milliamps i get - but i havent tried very deep yet, so maybe there is a point where the magnetic dip is reached, and the output just decreases after that.

[MonsieurM]

I'd be curious to know if you do the same set as proposed by Wilbur Smith, but instead of a ferrite core, braid the wire around a tree and hook it up to a receiver:

We were told about a system which uses a radio transmitter as an energy source but a special antenna converter, which radiates doughnut-shaped waves, which are not time functions. We built a couple and find they have the most extraordinary properties. If you wish you could build a unit and try to establish a circuit to our group here in Ottawa. Following are the construction instructions.

One ferrite core (One Tree ), material with the highest permeability (see http://www.energeticforum.com/142700-post67.html )and dielectric constant (water in tree), about 8 inches to a foot long, and about 1 inch in diameter. About 20 feet of plastic insulated #14 electric house wire. Starting at the center of the wire and at one end of the core wind on the wire as closely as possible, with the first turn under and then over, so that the winding will be exactly symmetrical. It will start at one end of the core and finish at the other end and will resemble a solenoid with a bifilar winding. It is important that the winding be exactly symmetrical.

When connected to a transmitter, treat it as any normal antenna for loading and tuning. There will be a few points of magnetic domain resonance which will be lossy but anywhere else the device will generate the required waves. It will not matter whether or not the antenna converter is shielded as the doughnut waves go through anything. The most remarkable property of this system is that the waves can be directly MENTALLY...

Yours truly,

Wilbur Smith

see also http://www.energeticforum.com/142075-post18.html

[MonsieurM]

I was searching for different variant of coils that could be used in a resonator circuit, and I found this ref in the following thread: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post136523



And i went looking for some info, here is what i found:





Caduceus Wound Coil Experiments


Wilbert B. Smith: Gravity Control ~ Binding Force ~ Caduceus Coil ~ Letters ~ Circuit Diagrams



I wonder how it would work if used in a Tesla magnifier

i found this info on building a A Capacitive Transformer Tesla coil:









A capacitive transformer Tesla coil

A transformerless Tesla coil

one more info, I would like to add about the Caduceus Coil


Steven GIBBS

Hyper Dimensional Resonator

HDR Caduceus Coil illustration by Steven Gibbs

Main components of Tensor Coil AKA Caduceus Coil

A copper wire with a bifilar winding that has the opposing magnetic fields cancel each other.

Take a enamel copper wire and nick the middle then twist the wire into a double helix.

Now curl the wire into a spiral. This will generate scalar waves when there is a current.

Why does the Caduceus Coil Work?

It is believed that scalar waves have strange effects including the distortion of temporal field.

The HDR caduceus coil built by Steven Gibbs should have the ability to generate an electromagnetic field that disrupts time waves and alters the flow of chronoton particles. My experiment with a watch subjected to the "gibbs effect" establishes that something is causing a disruption in the normal flow of time.

I believe this is caused by scalar waves emanating from the Hyper Dimensional Resonator or HDR created by inventor Steven Gibbs. These waves interact with those of the electromagnet to create a temporal disruption that can affect clocks. See videos of HDR at HDRusers.com

What does the HDR Caduceus Coil look like?

The HDR caduceus coil is that round doughnut shaped object at the bottom o the left hand corner in the picture below. This is I believe what makes the HDR work and provides the missing factor for Steven Gibbs HDR.

Insides of a Hyper Dimensional Resonator (HDR) from Steven Gibbs

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Wilbert B. Smith: Gravity Control ~ Binding Force ~ Caduceus Coil ~ Letters ~ Circuit Diagrams

The coil is said to be a single winding of insulated copper wire, about #16 or #18 gauge, wound on a ferrite core of 1" to 1-1/2" diameter, and about 9" long. The coil is caduceus wound, that is, one begins the winding in the middle of the wire’s length, winding the wire in opposite directions around the core and crossing the wires on the same opposite diameter points each time around.

The coil is said to be an energy sink --- that is, current fed into it just disappears, causing no radiation, even of heat. When operating and placed near a grid dip meter, the coil is said to show a large number of resonance points across the spectrum from 200 to 2.0 Mc. This coil is further said to have zero impedance. Further, two or more coils cannot be coupled together.

interesting concept using a caduceus Coil he is proposing:

We have used the call M4 AFFA at frequencies around 20 megacycles. In this business we are all in the kindergarten and all I can say is to try anything and everything until something works.

We were told about a system which uses a radio transmitter as an energy source but a special antenna converter, which radiates doughnut-shaped waves, which are not time functions. We built a couple and find they have the most extraordinary properties. If you wish you could build a unit and try to establish a circuit to our group here in Ottawa. Following are the construction instructions.

One ferrite core, material with the highest permeability and dielectric constant, about 8 inches to a foot long, and about 1 inch in diameter. About 20 feet of plastic insulated #14 electric house wire. Starting at the center of the wire and at one end of the core wind on the wire as closely as possible, with the first turn under and then over, so that the winding will be exactly symmetrical. It will start at one end of the core and finish at the other end and will resemble a solenoid with a bifilar winding. It is important that the winding be exactly symmetrical.

When connected to a transmitter, treat it as any normal antenna for loading and tuning. There will be a few points of magnetic domain resonance which will be lossy but anywhere else the device will generate the required waves. It will not matter whether or not the antenna converter is shielded as the doughnut waves go through anything. The most remarkable property of this system is that the waves can be directly MENTALLY...

Yours truly,

Wilbur Smith

check out this post too: http://www.energeticforum.com/143416-post88.html

[MonsieurM]

Viktor Schauberger - Comprehend and Copy Nature ( a must see )


YouTube - ‪Viktor Schauberger - Comprehend and Copy Nature‬‏

watch the tone tower start at 60 min keep in mind the law of Octave

isn't the tone tower also a rough shape of a tree (roots to tip)







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this is a commentary about ORMUS:

Paramagnetic soils exhibit paramagnetic properties. The ORMUS elements also exhibit paramagnetic properties. Dr. Callahan claims that the paramagnetic soils help to couple plants to at atmospheric electromagnetic energy. The ORMUS elements provide a superconductive resonance coupling effect inside biological systems.

http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/ORMEs_09.pdf

[MonsieurM]

I found this very insightful :

Cycles, fractal patterns, and exponential functions
If you want to understand the world as a system then you need to investigate three key components.

Cycles
Fractal patterns
Exponential functions

Here are some of the authors I have studied

Fred Harrison(18 year land price cycle)
Nokolai Kondratieff (60 year price/debt cycle)
Oswald Spengler - book: "The Decline of the West" (1500-2000 civilisation cycles)
Martin Armstrong (8.6 year PI cycle, fractal patterns)
Robert Prechter (Elliott waves, fractal patterns, 300 years)
Chris Martenson (exponential functions, 10,000 years)
Most authors try and model the world with only one of these components. Martin Armstrong was the exception as he used 2 components (cycles and fractal patterns)

Winston Churchill said, "The further back you look, the further forward you can see."

So why not create a model that incorporates all three components and goes back as far as the Big Bang.

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magnetic fractals

The software I use (FractInt) has this to say about magnetic fractals:
These fractals use formulae derived from the study of hierarchical lattices, in the context of magnetic renormalisation transformations. This kinda stuff is useful in an area of theoretical physics that deals with magnetic phase-transitions (predicting at which temperatures a given substance will be magnetic, or non-magnetic). In an attempt to clarify the results obtained for real temperatures (the kind that you and I can feel), the study moved into the realm of Complex Numbers, aiming to spot Real phase-transitions by finding the intersections of lines representing Complex phase-transitions with the Real Axis. The first people to try this were two physicists called Yang and Lee, who found the situation a bit more complex than first expected, as the phase boundaries for Complex temperatures are (surprise!) fractals.
One gets the feeling that perhaps FractInt's authors don't understand the science behind it any more than I do, but don't have any objections to using the formulae to make fractals. And here those formulae are:

Magnetic Fractals

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Thunderbolts Forum • View topic - Fractals Hint at Higher Universal Laws

Fractals Hint at Higher Universal Laws
by junglelord »
What seemed to be flaws in the structure of a mystery metal may have given physicists a glimpse into as-yet-undiscovered laws of the universe.

The qualities of a high-temperature superconductor — a compound in which electrons obey the spooky laws of quantum physics, and flow in perfect synchrony, without friction — appear linked to the fractal arrangements of seemingly random oxygen atoms.

Those atoms weren’t thought to matter, especially not in relation to the behavior of individual electrons, which exist at a scale thousands of times smaller. The findings, published Aug. 12 in Nature, are a physics equivalent of discovering a link between two utterly separate dimensions.

“We don’t know the theory for this,” said physicist Antonio Bianconi of Rome’s Sapienza University. “We just make the experimental observation that the two worlds seem to interfere.”


Unlike semiconductors, the metals on which modern electronics rely, superconductors allow electrons to pass through without resistance. Rather than bouncing haphazardly, the electrons’ movements are perfectly synchronized. They flow like a fluid, but without viscosity.

For most of the 20th century, this was possible only in certain extremely pure metals at temperatures approaching absolute zero, cold enough to quench all motion but that of quantum particles, which interact with each other in ways that defy the classic laws of space and time.

Then, in the mid-1980s, physicists Karl Muller and Johannes Bednorz discovered a class of ceramic compounds in which superconductivity was possible at much higher temperatures. The temperatures were still hundreds of degrees Fahrenheit below zero, but it wasn’t even thought possible.

Muller and Bednorz soon won a Nobel Prize, but subsequent decades and thousands of researchers have not yielded a theory of high-temperature superconductivity. “High temperatures should destroy the quantum phenomenon,” said Bianconi, who decided to investigate another odd property of these materials: They’re not quite regular. Oxygen atoms roam inside, and assume random positions as they freeze.

“Everyone was looking at these materials as ordered and homogeneous,” said Bianconi. That is not the case — but neither, he found, was the position of oxygen atoms truly random. Instead, they assumed complex geometries, possessing a fractal form: A small part of the pattern resembles a larger part, which in turn resembles a larger part, and so on.

“Such fractals are ubiquitous elsewhere in nature,” wrote Leiden University theoretical physicist Jan Zaanen in an accompanying commentary, but “it comes as a complete surprise that crystal defects can accomplish this feat.”

If what Zaanen described as “surprisingly beautiful” patterns were all Bianconi found, the results would have been striking enough. But they appear to have a function.

In Bianconi’s samples, larger fractals correlated with higher superconductivity temperatures. When the fractal disappeared at a distance of 180 micrometers, superconductivity appeared at 32 degrees Kelvin. When it vanished at 400 micrometers, conductivity went quantum at 42 degrees Kelvin.

At -384 degrees Fahrenheit, that’s still plenty cold, but it’s heading towards the truly high-temperature superconductivity that Bianconi describes as “the dream” of his field, making possible miniature supercomputers that run at everyday temperatures.

However, while the arrangement of oxygen atoms appears to influence the quantum behaviors of electrons, neither Bianconi nor Zaanen have any idea how that could be. That fractal arrangements are seen in so many other systems — from leaf patterns to stock market fluctuations to the frequency of earthquakes — suggests some sort of common underlying laws, but these remain speculative.

“This fractal defect structure is astonishing, and there is nothing in the textbooks even hinting at an explanation.”

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla


want to know more check out this post:

http://www.energeticforum.com/131976-post6.html

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[MonsieurM]

Resonance energy. (Old Russian doc on resonant energy)

YouTube - ‪Resonance energy. Part 1 / Сила резонанÑ�а. ЧаÑ�Ñ‚ÑŒ 1‬‏

[MonsieurM]

Check out this interview made on Coast To Coast AM - 30.6.2011 - 2/4 - Black Holes, Drones, & Energy

starts at 20 min

YouTube - ‪Coast To Coast AM - 30.6.2011 - 2/4 - Black Holes, Drones, & Energy‬‏

[MonsieurM]

interesting...

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