how this OU thing works indeed ?

[cikljamas]

Just see this video and i hope there is someone out there
who is going to inform us about the principle of work of
this device...
YouTube - Free Energy Electric Power Generator Overunity Magnet Motor

[FRC]

I think this was discussed before in another thread. I guess you would have to replicate it to see if it works. I saw this video before I joined this forum and also
wondered about it.

FRC

[cikljamas]

It seems so convincing, but very similar as it is with watkykjys stuff from
"this is it" thread, seems to be to much mysteries about this device,
and when i see so much hiding details than i ask myself (after all these
kind of experiences) why this concealing darkness if not to prevent discovery
of something that is presented as something which is offered to people ?

So if someone has intention to hide something why than offering it in the
first place as something opened and shared ?

I know, human beings are very funny devices , but i can not to become used to that fact, i must be some different kind of device...

[cikljamas]

Now i saw this video again,maybe some english native speaker could
understand better what that guy is trying to say about his magnetic
rotors (in 1:00 min. of the video he talks about that) as the reason of
achieving much better results than it would be if he used belts or gears
for transmission instead of magnets...I think better understanding of
english is not going to help indeed, because he doesnt explain much
about that, but maybe someone with better knowledge and more
experience could explain that though ...

[bugler]

Right now I think that it doesn't work. the loop can't be closed so it probably doesn't work. Maybe using a mu-metal in the lower part between each two disks it could work.

Same for Chas Campbell wheel and the Hardy's water pump thing.

I think we should research Don Nocera hydrogen production from water + catalyzer + sun light. Nocera works at MIT and the technology could be sound.

He has explained that with mass production the device would cost $100 for a house + car.

[ltseung888]

Want a theoretical explanation???

See:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7434-lee-tseung-lead-out-bring-energy-theory.html

I have now produced the two spreadsheets to demonstrate that the collision of an air molecule with a vibrating piston does produce a pulsing order that can do useful work. The energy is from the kinetic energy of the air molecules.

The wheel/motor shown appears to be a primitive form of the Wang ShenHe generator. Quite a bit of detail is available via a google search on Wang ShenHe or Wang Shum Ho.

This shown device is another OPEN system bringing-in electron motion energy via resonance pulse-rotation.

Another confirmation of the Divine Revelations. Amen.

[cikljamas]

magnetic transmission works even in my new experiment :
YouTube - magnetic transmission

But how to harness its (rotor) energy ?
Let me here your suggestions !

[ibpointless2]

I don't know for a fact if his motor is really overunity but I have built some motors that use magnets to increase the speed of the rotor and drop amps, thus proving that magnets can help to do work.

Here will be a video of it YouTube - Magnets cause motors to run more efficient

The magnets on the rotor are all facing north and there's about 6 of them. The magnets are neo's. The T shape of the stator magnet's also helps with the effect. Place the magnets on the other side would cause the motor to slow down and increase amps instead of placing it on the right side where it would speed up and decrease amps.

[cikljamas]

Now when i think about this magnetic transmission concept it seems to
me very possible, and it should work perfectly...

1. we use inverter to power one induction motor
2. we then turn another induction motor (magnetic transmission)and
use it as generator...OK, i just discovered America, i know
3. the question is this : if we use the same induction motors do we
get (and how) more output after second motor than we use energy
on the input of first motor ?...Or if it is for what ever reason impossible what
combination of motors we should apply to get that desirable effect - OU ???

Dont you tell me that there is no one who does not know the answer to
this question !

[altrez]

Now when i think about this magnetic transmission concept it seems to
me very possible, and it should work perfectly...

1. we use inverter to power one induction motor
2. we then turn another induction motor (magnetic transmission)and
use it as generator...OK, i just discovered America, i know
3. the question is this : if we use the same induction motors do we
get (and how) more output after second motor than we use energy
on the input of first motor ?...Or if it is for what ever reason impossible what
combination of motors we should apply to get that desirable effect - OU ???

Dont you tell me that there is no one who does not know the answer to
this question !

Once a load is applied the second motor it drops "at least in my tests" down to about %40 over all end to end efficiency. The reason I believe for this is that once one adds a load to the second motor the motor slows down.

Very easy to reproduce with two small motors a power source and a small load.

Try it with a light bulb / paper weight and small electrolytic capacitor.

-Altrez

[cikljamas]

Once a load is applied the second motor it drops "at least in my tests" down to about %40 over all end to end efficiency. The reason I believe for this is that once one adds a load to the second motor the motor slows down.

Very easy to reproduce with two small motors a power source and a small load.

Try it with a light bulb / paper weight and small electrolytic capacitor.

-Altrez

So you think that it is a hoax when someone like this guy from the
opening video claims overunity using this magnetic transmission
method ?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi cikljamas, thanks for sharing this video and information and your video as well.
If what mindfreer has shown in his video is truthful, then it works and one has to get the geometry and magnet strength and spacing correct or it probably will not work.

Also, he probably powered his primary drive motor with a 12 volt battery powering a 120 volt inverter then input 120 volts to main motor.

Then if the generator outputs 120 volts ac, he stepped it down with a transformer to charge the 12 volt battery or the alternator is 12 or 24 volts then rectified to charge battery and maintain loads.

I have a bunch of 1" diameter neo magnets, this sure is looking tempting to replicate.

Thanks for sharing that video ibpointless2,
i seem to recall an experiment that showed a rotating flywheel when spun up to speed for a few minutes steady and after stopping required far less input to rotate up to the same speed as if space was somehow agitated and space itself is put into motion.

Maybe magnets can help augment this effect, which seems likely based on your results of it increases and decreasing based on which side you placed the magnets.
peace love light
Tyson

Edit: i wonder if this would work with axially placed magnets.
Also i seem to recall Dennis lee, who came up with the sunshine generator i think, he showed a video where he had two wheels with magnets on periphery like mindfreers video and when he spun one they both interacted and both rotated for way longer than what one would expect, i think he was showing these effects by that demonstration.

[cikljamas]

Hi folks, Hi cikljamas, thanks for sharing this video and information and your video as well.
If what mindfreer has shown in his video is truthful, then it works and one has to get the geometry and magnet strength and spacing correct or it probably will not work.

Also, he probably powered his primary drive motor with a 12 volt battery powering a 120 volt inverter then input 120 volts to main motor.

Then if the generator outputs 120 volts ac, he stepped it down with a transformer to charge the 12 volt battery or the alternator is 12 or 24 volts then rectified to charge battery and maintain loads.

I have a bunch of 1" diameter neo magnets, this sure is looking tempting to replicate.

Thanks for sharing that video ibpointless2,
i seem to recall an experiment that showed a rotating flywheel when spun up to speed for a few minutes steady and after stopping required far less input to rotate up to the same speed as if space was somehow agitated and space itself is put into motion.

Maybe magnets can help augment this effect, which seems likely based on your results of it increases and decreasing based on which side you placed the magnets.
peace love light
Tyson

Edit: i wonder if this would work with axially placed magnets.
Also i seem to recall Dennis lee, who came up with the sunshine generator i think, he showed a video where he had two wheels with magnets on periphery like mindfreers video and when he spun one they both interacted and both rotated for way longer than what one would expect, i think he was showing these effects by that demonstration.

Hi Skywatcher, thanks for your reply !
What kind of motors do you think Mindfreer uses in his demonstration ?
Do you think that both motors are of the same kind ?
Do you think that we could try this with two washing machines cage induction motors ?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi cikljamas.
I would guess hes using a 120 volt drive motor.

He could be using the same motors, one for drive and one for alternator, then stepping down alternator voltage.

If washing machine squirrel cage motors have permanent magnets then it would work for the alternator. Though drive motor doesn't need permanent magnets.

I have a 120 vdc 2 HP treadmill motor and i have a car alternator that was converted with neo magnets and outputs 24 volts I could use for this. Though the alternator has a bit of cogging, so may not be ideal.
peace love light
Tyson

Edit: Though i do have my garry stanley motor air-core coil still in tact, that can be used as a no cogging generator.
Then i could use my treadmill motor and attach a wheel with magnets to treadmill motor and place at edge of stanley motor to interact with the neo magnets for an experiment. Though the stanley motor has axial magnet placement, that's why i'm wondering if it will work the same, only way to know is try it i guess.

[altrez]

So you think that it is a hoax when someone like this guy from the
opening video claims overunity using this magnetic transmission
method ?

I have no idea if his model works of not. I can only state what my independent lab tests have show me thus far

Its always possible I have done something wrong lol. I have seen motors of these types run really well so perhaps his will be the one out of the countless others that is OU.

-Altrez