SSG charged batteries cannot be used to drive SSG machines

[shingot]

It was said in many instances that a radiantly charged battery (charged directly from SSG - without cap pulser) cannot be used to power SSG devices. Does anyone knows the reason why? (they said its because of the negative energy or because the battery was negatively charged - so what about it? )or anyone can point me to a thread if this was answered before. TIA

[Farmhand]

Hi shingot, to the forum.

My understanding is that the SSG charged battery if left to rest for long enough it should be fine. But with the cap pulser charged battery it could be swapped to the source battery almost straight away. I think it is because the battery transforms the energy slower than the electrolytic capacitor.

Cheers

[mbrownn]

You can

I swap the batteries round all the time with no problem at all on the SSG circuit. You can also do it with the SG cap pulsed circuit and I have been doing this for 4 years, but if you use the SG circuit without the caps and charge the battery directly, the battery changes to use negative energy.

This battery will no longer charge normally and appears shorted when you try.

When you charge a battery with negative energy its capacity increases significantly on resistive loads but not on inductive like a Bedini circuit.

Gel type batteries are quickly destroyed on negative energy by crystallising the gel, this can also happen to a lead acid battery too in my experience. See the attached picture.

[elias]

When you charge a battery with negative energy its capacity increases significantly on resistive loads but not on inductive like a Bedini circuit.

Have you verified this?

[Guruji]

Ssg

Hi guys what's a SG cap pulser? Is it a bedini with a FWBR and a Cap you mean to be clear?
Thanks

[shingot]

@ Farmland, thanks for that.

@ mbrownn,

This battery will no longer charge normally and appears shorted when you try.

what do you mean by that? appears shorted?

Gel type batteries are quickly destroyed on negative energy by crystallising the gel, this can also happen to a lead acid battery too in my experience. See the attached picture.

also, in what instance or mode of charging does your battery get destroyed?

@ guruji, yeah that's it, there should be a cap for it to be a cap pulser but it doesn't really need to be a FWBR, i think single diode would do - this is what i have.

[Guruji]

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@ guruji, yeah that's it, there should be a cap for it to be a cap pulser but it doesn't really need to be a FWBR, i think single diode would do - this is what i have.[/QUOTE]

Hi Shingot thanks for response I think Sucahyo was right when he told me that AC caps are better with a FWBR to charge batteries cause with my Stingo circuit they charge better.
Thanks

[mbrownn]

Have you verified this?

[shingot]

but performance wise based on your experience which would you prefer direct radiant charging or with cap pulser?

[Guruji]

Ssg

Hi Mbrown regarding Gel batteries is there a way that can be revived after negative charging in you experience?
Thanks

[mbrownn]

but performance wise based on your experience which would you prefer direct radiant charging or with cap pulser?

[mbrownn]

Hi Mbrown regarding Gel batteries is there a way that can be revived after negative charging in you experience?
Thanks

I have never recovered a battery that has been crystallised of any type.

I have cut open dried gel batteries and replaced the gel with acid but with limited success.

I have once been able to reverse the negative energy from a lead acid battery by completely flattening it down to milli volts output before charging it with my SSG.

Discharging the battery this far is not good for a battery so I would not recommend it unless you have nothing to loose

[mbrownn]

Hi Mbrown regarding Gel batteries is there a way that can be revived after negative charging in you experience?
Thanks

@ Farmland, thanks for that.

@ mbrownn,



what do you mean by that? appears shorted?



also, in what instance or mode of charging does your battery get destroyed?

@ guruji, yeah that's it, there should be a cap for it to be a cap pulser but it doesn't really need to be a FWBR, i think single diode would do - this is what i have.

[mbrownn]

but performance wise based on your experience which would you prefer direct radiant charging or with cap pulser?

[kcarring]

Can someone explain this "fix" on the SSG circuit?