Joule Ringer!

[Peanutbutter29]

Hello. I figured I would make an account to answer questions if I can. I do watch this and I commented I'm hoping to get professor physics light box setup soon. I did mess up and get the lux meter from Hong Kong instead of US (Doh!), so it will be a couple of weeks.

@Joules oh my wow! I did not realize some were excited about this circuit, nor had I considered areas that can use this now. That is a good point.
I'd mainly looked at these as a "just in case" there was a time without common power. I assume 12v will be common and LED's are becoming that way fast.

For tuning I can try and offer some tips that I've noticed with the 5 versions so far. I DO use the audibility of the operation to help too, so there is a "feel" about it. I'm looking for a particular smooth sound now, that is hard to describe. However, my first took about 10hours straight to tune (SJRC 1.0) and these last two I'm down to about 4 hours. I don't have a huge supply of parts though, as I'd stopped my research a long while ago.

My results up until and including the Toroidal v1.1; led me to the possibility of a 50w appx. 120-12 or 24v may work for a small possible size. Though, these are not probably wound the most favorably.

I suppose I want to state that I do not feel there's overunity here (and why I've never stated such); in the utmost sense, just an efficiency of operation.

My hope for these last versions was to make this something easy for many to accomplish or re-create. Also, I'm hoping for others to verify or dispute what I'm seeing. I've done all the testing I have at my disposal, but still will not have removed all personal doubt without another verification. My self and a life mentor of mine, both tend to look for errors first; rather than expect something unknown.

Last, yes. I am no longer posting at OU, though I stick to myself a lot; so it's more a personal thing. I really debated about not posting anything, as I don't look for money or attention; however, I did not want to leave ONLY showing transformers that may be hard to find. As I mentioned, I felt somewhat unfinished. There is one other thing, I'm working on here too, but is taking a while; so that will be a bit.

Sorry to ramble and I don't plan to post here much, but I will watch to answer or be around if needed. I think I covered it all .
Sincerely, PB

EDIT: At Prof.Physics; how should I arrange for testing 6 bulbs? Since my circuits are designed for such and I've shown almost the same current draw with one bulb. I was thinking of making a box that contained just one in the set? I could then shift from bulb to bulb to ensure each is the same (or similar). I cannot think of a way (even with parabola's) to get an even light distribution on to a single light meter with 6 or more bulbs.

[Jules Tresor]

Comparing Joule Ringer with Dual Battery

I like to compare circuits

[Jules Tresor]

2 coils resonance

Is it what Peanutbutter is doing withe SJR, tuning coils to get that same effect as here ? Energy Propagation - YouTube
The creator of the video answers here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ce-simple.html

PButter says in a video that SJR frequency is multiple of 60Hz. Is it related to his power supply plugged in 60Hz grid power ?
If we could use a small incandescent bulb in series with SJR variable resistor to find the resonance point of the transformer, what a great simple and visual solution it would be

@Prof : Sorry I have no idea where PButter could be posting, I read on OU.com that he wanted to stop forums ... But he answers to comments below his videos.

[totoalas]

Liquid Led in a Solar Light Bulb DIY 190512

Liquid Led in a Solar Light Bulb DIY 190512 - YouTube
DIY liquid led as explained from the link below

The Liquid Light Bulb from Switch on Greentech Media TV.mp4 - YouTube

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[PhysicsProf]

I enjoyed the vid, thanks b-rads. Good comments, all.

In post #1178, I talked about a simple light-box built for quantitative light-output measurements. Here's more, hopefully helpful.

I've plotted the data points for the calibration of my light-box-2.
The plot shows the linearity of the response in Lux for various Lumens output, with Lumens given on the packaging for each bulb.

The slope of the graph is the conversion factor FOR THIS LIGHT BOX. You should do such a quick plot for each light box you build. For this one, the conversion factor is 0.08(0) Lumens/Lux.

Now I can put an unknown light source in there, such as a bulb during Lynx-Lamp or LaserSaber Joule Ringer testing, and actually measure the Lumens! I will be able to tell if the light is actually getting brighter or dimmer as I change things like the tap on the primary.

[b_rads]

Could you imagine this?

cheap way to enhance illumination sun power in day time plus solar and JR in the evening FOR THE THIRD WORLD TO ENJOY

Solar Light bub Day & Night Lighting 0180512 - YouTube

TOTOALAS



Solar bottle-bulbs bring light to Filipinos - YouTube

Solar Light Bulb - YouTube

What if these people had access to mineral oil.

DIY FIBER OPTIC FLUID mineral oil DIY fibre optic lighting - YouTube

You could have heat, hot water, and light.

Edit Add: Here is a short video of the Lasersaber circuit and the LynxSteam Joule lamp. This is my replication. LynxSteam has a youtube channel and is posting this information at ou.

Air Core - Lynx Joule Lamp - Replication

Sorry for the abrupt end - ran out of space on the camera. Hope you enjoy.

[PhysicsProf]

I appreciate your enthusiasm, Jules!

"Peanutbutter is making more and more easy to replicate videos, with off the shelf parts, already tuned !!! DIY Super Joule Ringer 2.0 "Tuned"!!! Parts common! 16-20w!! 15.00 cost! lights 6-9 LEDs - YouTube He is amazing !!

Of course many people will be interested to light their multiroom house with that little 1.3A current from a car battery, 15W Pin for 6 to 9 bulbs !!!

What about people living in a single room (most of the poors), they need only 1 lamp. A 7W LED bulb is very suitable to light brightly one 15sq. m room.

Right. Can you provide a link where Peanutbutter is posting in a forum? (is he still posting?)

[Jules Tresor]

The procedure to tune SJR

Hello,
Actually I realized how simple Peanutbutter SJR are to replicate !!
So instead of asking him anything more to do, I should ask him "how to" tune ANY transformer to get the super-efficiency

Did I miss where he explained the procedure to determine the capacitors to put in parallel with the coils, to tune the device ?
I suppose we need to include a voltage regulator to stabilize the output voltage from the battery, to keep the circuit at sweet spot.

- toroid cores are definitely a NO WAY in undeveloped countries, so Peanutbutter is offering us THE alternative
- oscilloscopes are also a NO WAY, even here I can't find an oscilloscope nor anyone knowing how to use one

Being able to "retrofit" any standard square form transformer would be great. And being able to tune it without an oscilloscope would be the greatest thing. Then everyone could have a go, all over the world.
People could just download the procedure file in open source, and make their own, where ever they live

As I understand the tuning depend of the load. So, as this LED bulbs are still quite expensive and RARE there, people could just build their own, from bunches of small LED, and tune their SJR with that specific load.

I think the story is becoming very hopeful with this SJRs !!! I am so excited ! If we can do without oscilloscope, then even myself will be able to start such a project !! Unbelievable ! ahahaha

Seriously, LED bulbs sold are using twice less power than a CFL, but driving them even 2 or 3 times more efficiently with a SJR would be very great !

PS : I thought about solar cell to measure Pout of devices because "here" it's very difficult and expensive to put a hand on a Lux meter !! My own experience confirming it. While solar panels are available and quite cheap for small sizes ... my 2 cts again

[Jules Tresor]

Thanks Prof for your reply, I didn't know the all story about the error measurement ... your thread on OU being over 73 pages, I didn't read it from the beginning

I like this idea of using a solar cell to measure the Pout, but of course it needs a coeff. > 7, with a 15% efficient solar cell, and gathering of most of the light output.

Peanutbutter is making more and more easy to replicate videos, with off the shelf parts, already tuned !!! DIY Super Joule Ringer 2.0 "Tuned"!!! Parts common! 16-20w!! 15.00 cost! lights 6-9 LEDs - YouTube He is amazing !!

Of course many people will be interested to light their multiroom house with that little 1.3A current from a car battery, 15W Pin for 6 to 9 bulbs !!!

What about people living in a single room (most of the poors), they need only 1 lamp. A 7W LED bulb is very suitable to light brightly one 15sq. m room. It could run from a 7 Ah motorbike battery, recharged with a small solar panel.
How much a suitable SJR could achieve to light this bulb efficiently ? May be it will take only 2W = 12V x 170mA.
Then the battery could deliver light for 3 or 4 evenings without charging :0) very good - 4 nights x 5 hours x 0.17A = 3.4Ah
But this model won't be mobile, the battery weighing 1 kg

So we need more intermediate models All a line of super-efficient SJR devices !
The smallest working on 1 AA, then one working on 3AA, then 1 bulb on a small 12V-7Ah battery. And one with 3 bulbs (1 for main room, 1 for outside, 1 for kitchen area) running from a 30Ah 12V battery.

The one working on a "big" 80Ah car battery exists already ! See video link above. 1.3Ah to light 6 to 9 bulbs !! Then it can light these bulbs for almost 1 week without charging. 7 days x 5 hours x 1.3A = 45.5Ah

Just ideas, I wish I could help, by being skilled "in the art" or millionaire
Good luck everyone !
Jules

[PhysicsProf]

Jules, we seem to share many of the same interests.
Thanks for your post:

Hello Dr Jones,
I know Professors like their "students" to find by themselves instead of giving them the solutions in hands.
I think you are doing the same, see below why.

I would rather give a small finished circuit, and find someone to manufacture it in small quantities, and send the device all over the world to researchers, NGOs, Universities, etc... And sell these basic OU circuit through internet to collect funds to develop bigger ones and to finance a large communication campaign. But that's just my experience that gives me such opinion

So, coming to the OU device, I watched carefully your video from Sterling Allan interview Physicist Steven E. Jones shows 8x overunity circuit and measurements (1 of 2) - YouTube
At one point you mention your test with a Pin of 4 mW and a Pout of 920mW.
That's 230 more out than in ...
By the way I don't understand why Sterling nor anyone else ever mentioned this x230, but instead talked about x8 and x20 ???

Because I was not able to reproduce that high-yield result... unfortunately, I would say.

But we don't need x230 to prove OU, or ambient energy harnessing ...

With your very simple circuit (a Joule Ringer as LaserSaber calls it), at 4mW Pin, is it possible to light 1 or a few LEDs on the output side ?

If you can light 1 white LED at full brightness, factory rated at 3V 15mA, you would get 45mW output. ...

Let me stop you right there -- it is the "full brightness" part that is very difficult to achieve in the first place, and to PROVE that it is full brightness by eye. I have developed the "light box" to quantitatively measure Lumens output (not just Lux) as explained above IIRC.

I share the goal of achieving maximum light out per watt in, for the poor of the earth especially!

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[totoalas]

Solar Light bub Day & Night Lighting 0180512

cheap way to enhance illumination sun power in day time plus solar and JR in the evening FOR THE THIRD WORLD TO ENJOY

Solar Light bub Day & Night Lighting 0180512 - YouTube

TOTOALAS
LED Liquid Lightbulb by Liquid LED at CES 2009 - YouTube


Solar bottle-bulbs bring light to Filipinos - YouTube
A Liter of Light--with Solar Cell powered LED light for night-time - YouTube
Solar Light Bulb - YouTube

[totoalas]

Watered Power machine == check this out

off topic but worth replicating

Solar Light Bulb - YouTube

[NickZ]

Guys:
This company (below) have very interesting and inexpensive solar products.Such as solar rechargeable table lamps with additional usb charging, and small complete solar lighting systems that can be used as is, or combined with our Jt circuits to have additional running times.
It is hard to produce products at home that can compete with these ready made circuits, but these are not being optimized (yet) like they are doing with the Solar Christmas Tree light strings that can light 100 or more leds off of a single AA for most of the night.
I would suggest that you have a look at the rest of their product line, as well:

Mini Solar Light with 4 LED Bulbs - SOL-4, China Mini Solar Light with 4 LED Bulbs Manufacturer and Supplier

Let me know your thoughts...
NickZ

[SkyWatcher]

Hi jules, yes I compared that circuit and it was only half as bright as direct power.
Though I tested with mismatched leds and it probably is not as bright as it was before, also i used warm white leds and the blue/white leds are brighter/more efficient.
Though I have no doubt that with good leds and a tuned circuit, it could be fairly close to the equivalent of full brightness to the eyes.
I'll be trying some different things to get better output.
peace love light
tyson

[Jules Tresor]

Hi SW, you have the answers, it's your experiment that I mentioned :0)

http://www.energeticforum.com/112170-post26.html

You said you would try to find this lamps and test again ... if you need some money to buy a lux meter, I can send you some through Paypal.
Thanks for sharing,
Jules