The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[toranarod]

Hi all,

I can't find the paper donated by toranarod to panacea website.

Where is it?

Thanks.

My choice of forum user name was not very smart, it turned out using an old car user name left over from my car racing days. No good.

I will Ask ash if he has put it up.


cheers

[toranarod]

Hi,

Would like to ask the green disks represent soft iron?

IF yes, the direction of rotor rotation ought to be clockwise, no?

Do you expect the energy received from the generator coils help reduce input energy significantly?

Also, would like to learn your opinion on the induced voltage being present across the drive coils that surely have an opposite polarity to that of the input voltage needed for serving their electromagnet task? This inherently increases input power, no?

Thanks, Gyula

Hello you have some valid questions. Thank you.
Yes the drawing was a bit rushed. The green disks are Noe magnets all facing pole to same pole creating a pushing affect this would make the direction correct I believe.

Do you expect the energy received from the generator coils help reduce input energy significantly? No. at the moment my concept for this is the generator coils will just supply usable power. The drive coils will supply there own back EMF to keep the system in supply battery at full charge. So far my working model will keeps its own battery charged.

While supplying current from the generator coils to power small electronic circuits.
The generator coils can deliver 7 volts at 50 Milliamps very easily.
There are conservative figures.
The beauty of this is? it doesn’t matter how much energy the drive consumes as long as it maintain its own supply. This is achievable because the micro processor is programmed to find the most efficient drive load while charging its source battery.

This is what my research has uncovered So far.
You can consume 30 milliamps in the drive stage and replenish supply.
At other times when the conditions change. High loads on the generator coils .
You see a consumption of 150 milliamps on the drive coils so the computer adjust the delivery and can still maintain replenishment of its supply. This is what I mean when I say the system is dynamic.

[caru]

Hi,
your work seems great!
The idea of using a processor is what I like the most. Plug and play!

Since your pdf on panacea cannot be found, can you post it here or somewhere else? That way we can be sure it becomes public as soon as possible... as in your design itself, timing is the key
Also, as you said you want to open source your work (thank you, thank you, thank you!), I suggest that you also take a look at peswiki to open source it if you see fit.

I can't wait to see the full plan, source the needed components and start my replication!!!

Cheers, caru.

[bugler]

toranarod I don't know what you have accomplished but I don't think it is a good idea to give your real name.

The less information about those getting results the better.

toranarod is a fine nick (no meaning at all for me as a foreigner). If this is the first time you give your real name I would suggest to edit your message and remove it.

I really want to read your paper cause I want to see what you have done.
I hope you can resume soon your work with the generator.

You live in Australia?

[toranarod]

toranarod I don't know what you have accomplished but I don't think it is a good idea to give your real name.

The less information about those getting results the better.

toranarod is a fine nick (no meaning at all for me as a foreigner). If this is the first time you give your real name I would suggest to edit your message and remove it.

I really want to read your paper cause I want to see what you have done.
I hope you can resume soon your work with the generator.

You live in Australia?

Thanks for the heads up I have removed it

cheers

[toranarod]

Hi,
your work seems great!
The idea of using a processor is what I like the most. Plug and play!

Since your pdf on panacea cannot be found, can you post it here or somewhere else? That way we can be sure it becomes public as soon as possible... as in your design itself, timing is the key
Also, as you said you want to open source your work (thank you, thank you, thank you!), I suggest that you also take a look at peswiki to open source it if you see fit.

I can't wait to see the full plan, source the needed components and start my replication!!!

Cheers, caru.

yes
I will ask Ash?

[caru]

Mmh I don't know who is Ash... I am new to this forum, and to the whole free energy community.

I hope I didn't make you feel under pressure... I just can't wait to see your paper

And as regard PESwiki, just a suggestion.

BTW I now see hydrogenshop, is it yours? Because I see your adam motor there, the PIC, etc.

[ashtweth]

Hi guys sorry we have been away doing tests and have been Ill paper should be up today and will post a link

[ashtweth]

Here it is guys sorry for the short delay. Will be updated as this work progresses . Many credits to Rod,he is one of the hard workers that makes the open source genre what it is .

Panacea University - Courses
-> Rodney Wells' Pulse Motor (PDF)

Or direct link

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Rodney%20Wells%20Pulse%20Motor.pdf

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod and ash, thank you for your time and energy and sharing this pdf. Ok, looks like I'm going to have to setup another R. Adams motor and learn more from it. I should have taken notes on my past builds of his motors. Though I definitely had cold running and with one other particular setup that had odd/even coil arrangement, I recall getting way too much heat in the coil/cores which did not seem to correlate with the low input and as i recall the heat built up very quickly. That model used 24 gauge and solid steel bolts in radial rotor format.
So I will make an axial setup this time, since I have everything for that type design and will use reed switch for now with small magnet to help shorten and sharpen the pulse, which is what gave the cold running on the previous stated setup. Though I sure would like to know what causes the heat that Robert Adams motor/generators displayed, considering that he was using 72 ohms per coil or was that total coil ohms in series. Either way, that's a high resistance and one would not expect that heat unless the coils were being over saturated and at that point cannot emit anymore magnetic field, only heat.
I also am aware of Roberts heater design and I wonder if that is used in conjunction with his motor and thus is called Adams thermomotor generator. If that's what this thermomotor setup is referring to, then I could see an odd/even setup in axial format and only one coil would be needed to serve as a motor coil and if rotor has 16 magnets and 30 stator cores, this one drive coil/core could easily rotate the entire rotor past all these solid cores without coils and remove the heat from them.
I know this works because I built an odd/even setup that used only one drive coil, it had 6 dual rotor magnets sandwiching 7 fairly flat stator coils with iron slugs in center of coils, though with only powering one drive coil, it spun very fast. Just a few thoughts on possibly how his thermomotor was setup.
peace love light
Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I decided I'm going to build my coil/cores a little different as I have in the past. I'm using 1/8" diameter steel bolts and coils will have the brooks coil ratio, which is diameter is twice the size of the depth. This way, I figure I can get my 1" dia x 3/4" thick neo magnets in closer without having to use massive input to demagnetize the core and also I'm testing out an idea I had, I put 1" steel washers as coil bobbin ends. Maybe this will help with demagnetization of core, since the coils n/s field should connect easier since the coil is only 1/2" depth. Anyway, I'll be winding first coil later today with 24 gauge and see how well it demagnetizes at various inputs, just laying on the bench to test.
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Tyson

[caru]

Thank you Ash and Rod! The paper has lot of information.

Rod, where can we find the actual PIC program?

[toranarod]

Thank you Ash and Rod! The paper has lot of information.

Rod, where can we find the actual PIC program?

for members of this forum I will put it up for down load.
or send me your email and I will send it to you.

I am upgrading the program all the time will send the latest version when ever I upgrade
cheers

[caru]

That's great!
I'm not sure, but I imagine you might have a lot of doubts, as I read in your shop website... in my opinion, open sourcing the software as well will be a double win. For the community, it is an obvious win. You will probably benefit of external manpower for free, and gain popularity (probably more sells, then more research resources you can afford, and then again this will turn out to be good for the community).
You are the man!

I'm sending a PM.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod, I read in your pdf that you ran a test for 24 hours and the 12 volt drive battery actually gained some 20 millivots, that is great. Have you run it any longer than that, like say a week and then let it rest to see where the voltage goes. Thanks.
Here is a pic of the motor coils I will be using. It seems to demagnetize fairly well, though not sure if the steel washers add any benefit, though it repels a 1" dia. x 3/4" neo magnet at fairly close range to face of core at 12 volts. The coil is just over 2 ohms, 24 gauge.



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peace love light
Tyson