The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[toranarod]

its all in the timming

Thank u toranarod,i'm Chinese and recently focus on Adams motor.i'm not good at English,reading slow and writting err,i have'nt read all of this thread,but have so much enlightment already.thx all of u
i have made a bedini motor,but it can't OU.i'v tested two kind of coil core,iron and ferrite.Iron give more current output but ferrite seems make the system more efficient,but both of them can't make the system OU.Now,after reading your excellent sharing, i think it's because of the pulse out of control.Trigger coil maybe not a good pulse controlling,it seems make the pulse always too wide.
I think the pulse control circuit is quite good,but is there any simple resolvent?like use LED and photoresistor through a tunable gap etc.?i have'nt read all of this thread perhaps other one already have tried this,i want to know the result.
Now i want to share my information to you.i gathered this information from a friend,who have a GIFT of receiving information from somewhere we may not be understand.Many year ago he told me the energy is not conservation,and always increases itself.He said human being would find the way to obtain the eternal energy.first of all,we must know there is not such thing of electron,he said electron is low frequency wave,and wave is current.but energy increment is far less than it in high frequency area,for instance,nucleus.eternal energy can be lead out from the imbalance of the energy self increment.
unfortunately my friend didn't tell details of energy technic,he said all the details are gifts,scattered in the mind of the angels on the world,who work hard for the future of the human being.
with my best regard,all of u

I have read your very interesting post many times, I think I understand
Thank you.
great to see you working on the motor.
try to setup a soothed wheel next to the hall sensor.
it would be possible to control the timing mechanically.
I will be posting more very soon.
good luck

[whynot2011]

Thank u toranarod,i'm Chinese and recently focus on Adams motor.i'm not good at English,reading slow and writting err,i have'nt read all of this thread,but have so much enlightment already.thx all of u
i have made a bedini motor,but it can't OU.i'v tested two kind of coil core,iron and ferrite.Iron give more current output but ferrite seems make the system more efficient,but both of them can't make the system OU.Now,after reading your excellent sharing, i think it's because of the pulse out of control.Trigger coil maybe not a good pulse controlling,it seems make the pulse always too wide.
I think the pulse control circuit is quite good,but is there any simple resolvent?like use LED and photoresistor through a tunable gap etc.?i have'nt read all of this thread perhaps other one already have tried this,i want to know the result.
Now i want to share my information to you.i gathered this information from a friend,who have a GIFT of receiving information from somewhere we may not be understand.Many year ago he told me the energy is not conservation,and always increases itself.He said human being would find the way to obtain the eternal energy.first of all,we must know there is not such thing of electron,he said electron is low frequency wave,and wave is current.but energy increment is far less than it in high frequency area,for instance,nucleus.eternal energy can be lead out from the imbalance of the energy self increment.
unfortunately my friend didn't tell details of energy technic,he said all the details are gifts,scattered in the mind of the angels on the world,who work hard for the future of the human being.
with my best regard,all of u

[ltseung888]

I am total open source supporter. You may use any of my post and documents in support of new energy devices.
My passion became the pursuit of such energy devices and to document them in great detail and publish the results on any forum or website that was receptive to this information. for me its not about making money Its a about.change moving out of this draconian mind set they have us in. revolution.

What do you know about the frequency? I already observed some frequency s work better than others

@toranarod,

Thank you for the speedy reply. I totally support your generosity in sharing your hard earned knowledge with the World. You have clearly demonstrated the importance of sharp pulsing at the right time. I am sure that you will succeed in the programming of matching (or resonating) the supplied power with the load. You will be one of the first to appreciate the multiple wheels on same axle as used by the Liang or the 225 HP Wheels.

The experiments with the Tong Wheel convinced me that the pulsing frequency is a function of the load. The Tong Wheel rotated at different speeds depending on load.

I would like to reproduce the post in the Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in thread on the use of back EMF for your attention. If you have two oscilloscopes, you can compare the Input Instantaneous Power and the Output Instantaneous Power. You can then confirm that COP is in fact greater than 1.

At the correct (resonance?) position, the Input RMS voltage and current will drop significantly. The Output RMS voltage will rise very significantly. The Output RMS current may drop a little. The resulting Output Power will be greater than the Input Power.

Have fun and continue to post your findings.

Lawrence

The bringing-in of electromagnetic energy via back EMF

A quick understanding can be obtained by looking at the introductory video on Back EMF by Peter Lindermann

YouTube - what back EMF isopposite direction. This spike can have magnitude much greater than the supplied DC voltage. For example, a 12V DC battery can produce a -30V peak voltage. Note the negative sign.

If electron motion energy can be brought-in, how would that extra energy exhibit itself?The secret is how to get this higher resulting back Power into a usable form.

One technique used on the Pulse Rotation devices is to use a separate set of Collector Coils to collect such energy into usable electrical energy. That energy will be AC in nature but will not be sinusoidal as observed on the oscilloscope.

Another technique is to use the same coil as both Drive and Collector and use electronic techniques to separate them.

I personally prefer the separate coil mechanism as I had success with it in the Tong Wheel.

Devine Revelation 2 is getting clearer and clearer. The water has been turned into wine. We shall have many wine servers to further interpret and serve it. Many thanks to the Almighty for providing us with such inexhaustible, non-polluting energy. Amen.

[toranarod]

Dear Rod,

I just came across your fine work a few hours ago. You are definitely on the right track. I have finished the computer model on bringing-in kinetic energy of air molecules. I am working on bringing in gravitational and magnetic energy via Pulsed Rotation. Some thoughts are available in the following. I also reproduce it here. If you do not mind, I shall quote your work and the Adams Motor as further support in addition to the Tong Wheel. Best Wishes.

http://www.energeticforum.com/newrep...reply&p=136692

I am total open source supporter. You may use any of my post and documents in support of new energy devices.
My passion became the pursuit of such energy devices and to document them in great detail and publish the results on any forum or website that was receptive to this information. for me its not about making money Its a about.change moving out of this draconian mind set they have us in. revolution.

what do you know about the frequency? I already observed some frequency s work better than others

[ltseung888]

Theory behind Pulse motors

Dear Rod,

I just came across your fine work a few hours ago. You are definitely on the right track. I have finished the computer model on bringing-in kinetic energy of air molecules. I am working on bringing in gravitational and magnetic energy via Pulsed Rotation. Some thoughts are available in the following. I also reproduce it here. If you do not mind, I shall quote your work and the Adams Motor as further support in addition to the Tong Wheel. Best Wishes.

http://www.energeticforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=136692

The Theory behind the Tong Wheel

3. Pulsed rotation is the mechanism to bring-in the gravitational energy. The pulsing should be at the correct resonance frequency.Ignore any bring-in energy. Just use the brute force energy.

The Pulse Wheel design thought is to provide the minimum Input Energy and use the bring-in energy as much as possible. The rotational speed may be much slower. It may change to match the load. A resonance condition needs to be found. That resonance condition is expected to change with different loads.

Thus the Pulse Wheel design may need a computer program to alter the pulsing rate and/or duration to match the load. I believe that this was done in the Liang Wheel and the 225 HP motor. Both claimed to have achieved hundreds of Output Horse Power.

With the Human Race, once a workable solution is found, they may ignore other better methods. In this forum, we actively seek other methods. Amen.

[toranarod]

cold current

I think this like is a good read and relevant to this research.

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf

[toranarod]

high voltage

Yes Rod a screen shot from the scope.
thanks

I am still seeing the same results. The voltage in the battery goes up during the day and returns to a few mill volts from where it started.

I am starting to give some consideration to the concept of zero point energy

I am not a person to believe in such things easily. But where is the extra electrons coming from? I have been reading up on the concept. they make some good arguments for it.


cheers

[plengo]

Rod,

thank you man. Now i understand what you have done. It is very clever. You have many modules that can be used independent and also in combos. Now I see how I can use the driver board that I have and build a new "coil driver" module triggered by the first board.

I was a little confused with all the pictures you posted but now I see. Very clever indeed. Expandability is the name of the game!!!

I will build the coil driver as you showed and run the system again. Videos will come very soon. I am having a little difficulty with YouTube for some strange reason. None of my videos are being "converted" by them. I have to figure out which "conversion" process is the best for quality.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

Hey Rod,

I was looking everywhere in your documents how to connect a battery separated from the input power of the board BUT I am not able to figure it out.

Can you show me how? many thanks.

Fausto.

[plengo]

Hey Rod,

I was looking everywhere in your documents how to connect a battery separated from the input power of the board BUT I am not able to figure it out.

Can you show me how? many thanks.

Fausto.

[plengo]

Thank you Rod,

I was wondering if it was indeed possible to use this controller as you mention using a separate source of power. I will look into the previous posts to see how I can do that.

You're right, on a bigger machine the consumption of the control unit is nothing.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

The micro controller consumption

Run the control unit from another battery.
Keep the supply separate for the motor as I have shown in my schematics.
The electricity consumption of the electronics is not and should not be factored into the power consumption of the motor.

The micro controller is only a tool used for the research. It is a tool to help us develop an understanding of what the final system may work like.

The motor generator we have on the bench at the moment is only a miniature toy for research. I am looking at the bigger picture I have much larger units and designee changes already in manufacture. All this work will continue to develop.

I believe I have already established one core function that I am transferring to the next working unit.

An industrial unit of 100 times its capacity would generate some much more energy. The micro controller consumption would be negligible in a much larger system. There are many solutions to the control system. nanno watt processors and so on even as you said strip down the unit of all unnecessary components We just need to understand the architecture.

[plengo]

Rod,

I sent you a private message with my email.

I also figured that removing the display it will save about 30 ma of power consumption (so simple and I never thought of it until today ).

Fausto.

[toranarod]

Rod,

great, I do have a pic programmer for the PIC16Fxxx family. You can send to my email the new program.

Now, should I change the mosfet on the board? I noticed the board has a IRF70N06 (I think) which is only 60V. Can you confirm that this should be changed?

Fausto.

Yes It would be better to change it.

privately email me. The content is get out side the forum topic structure
i will send you the software.

[plengo]

Rod,

great, I do have a pic programmer for the PIC16Fxxx family. You can send to my email the new program.

Now, should I change the mosfet on the board? I noticed the board has a IRF70N06 (I think) which is only 60V. Can you confirm that this should be changed?

Fausto.