Lockridge Device - Peter Lindemann

[HansKammler]

[wantomake]

patience me?

Hello Hans,
Taking into account that there is no proof that this device ever existed, and that some unknown friend gave a box full of just parts to J. Bedini that didn't work, also why hasn't anyone from Germany (if still able to remember) come forward with any stories of such device. We had Robert here once who had a friend that remembered seeing something similar as a boy in WW2 Germany. But had no details to give us.

But I do think such a device is possible. Why? I think Mr. Bedini knows how this device operates as a single unit.

I have more curiosity and at my age take my time building and learning from it.

Patience is good but knowledge is better, with all due respect.
wantomake

[mbrownn]

[tachyoncatcher]

Observations.

Hi fellow builders,
Here are a couple ideas, observations, and notes from my experiments and research. Much will be obvious to most but I include them anyway for completeness. I think many of the components needed for a working device have been out in the open, but not understood as Tesla understood them and the interplay between them. I hope you find these observations useful.

A pulse transformer (DC) typically has a shunted (slotted) core. Like the case of the device here. A DC transformer will take a DC pulse and turn it into a sawtooth wave form that is biased to the plus side.

A generator will naturally create a AC output. AC can be converted to pulsed DC.

A reflected AC wave can create a standing wave. This can be accumulative. Study sound inference waves.

A resistive load can do work without a clear plus and minus, but rather a potential difference between two termination points and singular point in time.

A resistive load is part of a resonant circuit but is not variable without re-tuning.
It has been said that to perturb the ambient (aether, ether, dielectric ...) creates an influx to balance the disturbance. An earth ground is the most direct way to connect to the ambient.

Ambient gain seems to occur ~400Hz. Harmonics causing higher frequencies? (yes)

Magnetic flux has inertia.

A Tesla Bifilar Pancake Coil makes a better receiver coil than a single wire pancake coil.

Tesla nearly always showed a AC generator in his power transmission circuits.


Tesla used a earth ground in all power schemes.


It is my opinion the Lockridge device used all of the above ideas to convert ambient perturbance into usable lighting. I am not an electronics expert nor do I have anywhere near the hands on experience that @mbrown has with this device. I am simply sharing based on my experimental work and research. If it seems half baked, it's because it is. Otherwise, I would post working plans.
Good Luck,
Randy

[mbrownn]

http://www.energeticforum.com/257723-post1177.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/254372-post1168.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/221422-post1095.html

[HansKammler]

everybody on its own

I research a similar project when I was starting these things in the past,
called the Captn. Coler Converter.
it was like this: there was a photo on the net of an replication,
stupid Papers from british OSI with no clues how to work,
the examiner was everything but not a technician and the final
report is like a poem, than a report...

Stumbled in darkness like an alchimist and try this and that
and other things to come back to the point "its not working!"
sadly this project was shelfed.


the more investigators are working together, the more knowledge and
results we get I know.

[tachyoncatcher]

More Observations

Eye witnesses to the original German generator and also the Lockridge replication reported a odd reverberation sound coming from the generators when the lights were working. If you have ever had a motor producing a standing wave, it will make a odd, reverb sound. It is my contention that the Lockridge unit has a resonant component that must be used for the gain everyone is looking for. The external windings and capacitor plates make sense when you consider this component. Capacitive plates in close, physical proximity to switching magnetic polarity seems to be a common theme to many AE devices.

@mbrown, if I remember correctly, the slotted case creates a specific magnetic polarity in the case? Maybe this needs to switch? What effect would the switching magnetic polarity have on the external coil? Even JB used a weak magnetic switching, with the capacitive coupling of small coils to create some amazing gain on that ferris wheel device he built. He also used the dielectric of a couple large capacitors for the supposed collection.

More food for thought.

Randy

[wantomake]

your source

Eye witnesses to the original German generator and also the Lockridge replication reported a odd reverberation sound coming from the generators when the lights were working. If you have ever had a motor producing a standing wave, it will make a odd, reverb sound. It is my contention that the Lockridge unit has a resonant component that must be used for the gain everyone is looking for. The external windings and capacitor plates make sense when you consider this component. Capacitive plates in close, physical proximity to switching magnetic polarity seems to be a common theme to many AE devices.

@mbrown, if I remember correctly, the slotted case creates a specific magnetic polarity in the case? Maybe this needs to switch? What effect would the switching magnetic polarity have on the external coil? Even JB used a weak magnetic switching, with the capacitive coupling of small coils to create some amazing gain on that ferris wheel device he built. He also used the dielectric of a couple large capacitors for the supposed collection.

More food for thought.

Randy

Finally someone to pay attention to the part of this device that will power and cause the self loop needed to run the load and drive the device also.
Thanks Randy.
I've built my own test bench version with trifilar 26 awg wrapped around the outside of a capacitor made with wax paper and 4" wide aluminum tape. It fits over the 1950's Delco Remy generator with slotted case and coils (4) with armature.

I tried ac and dc power through it as LC tank but I'm sure the coil and capacitor aren't matching to resonance. I remember building the joule thief with the resonating toroid coil. Sweet sound. I wanted to understand if the coil can induce voltage in the capacitor. Yes it does. So with the case in the large spool, I tried to produce voltage through the field coils in the case into the capacitor. No luck so far. I did have the capacitor wrapped around the coil at first. BTW.

I may need to replicate the same setup with copper flashing and much larger coil.

What is your source that you mentioned eye witnesses in first sentence? I've seen every video made on the Lockridge device. Did I miss something?

Sorry so scattered,
wantomake

[mbrownn]

I research a similar project when I was starting these things in the past,
called the Captn. Coler Converter.
it was like this: there was a photo on the net of an replication,
stupid Papers from british OSI with no clues how to work,
the examiner was everything but not a technician and the final
report is like a poem, than a report...

Stumbled in darkness like an alchimist and try this and that
and other things to come back to the point "its not working!"
sadly this project was shelfed.

I need to look this one up.

@mbrownn is lightyears ahead of lockridge experim. congrats !!

Thanks for the complement but I am really 70 years behind

At this stage I have no clue how this 3 filar coil works and how to connect
to the rest. The Idea as a impedance matcher maybe.

yes, we are in agreement here, It could be but there are so many other possibilities too.

The thing is, if you kick a motorcoil you need a Switch and you have only
brushes for switching action (transistors were not possible 1945)
and a Triode arrangement seems a way to complex for Lockridge.

True

How to get energy from an resonance circuit:

to extract energy from a LCR circuit you have to maintain the resonance.
so if you put a resistive load on it, you have to change the Inductance "L"
simultan. I do this with a double winding on a Iron rod separated with an insulator.
the upper winding is the L from the LCR circuit. The lower winding
goes to an AMP who pushes current in that coil to create a magnet.
but you have to be sure not to "oversaturate" the ironcore. (if you do this
you get not enough inductance and the coil goes hot.
when you raise the power in the lower coil, the upper coil change the
inductance accordingly. Simple but elegant.


picture says more than words. I wish more of you would draw ideas, than
describe it with words...

The lockridge appears to have this configuration. Remember you do not have to drive that second coil, by using it as an output current flows and impedance changes. In a motor generator configuration like I have done, the lowering of impedance causes the device to draw more current. By drawing current from the generator coil when supplying the device with AC we get acceleration. Acceleration under load. This was using a simplified armature but even worked a little with a standard armature.

I dont know if your idea about how it works is the same as mine, but you seem to be looking at similar principals

As for resonance and using it as an LC circuit, it seams to be leading me away from that, but we just dont know.

I use the reverse engineering approach and let the device teach me, and it has taught me a lot.

[mbrownn]

Eye witnesses to the original German generator and also the Lockridge replication reported a odd reverberation sound coming from the generators when the lights were working. If you have ever had a motor producing a standing wave, it will make a odd, reverb sound.

I have literally heard this, waaa waaa wa wa wa wa waaaaaa is the best way I can describe it.

It is my contention that the Lockridge unit has a resonant component that must be used for the gain everyone is looking for. The external windings and capacitor plates make sense when you consider this component. Capacitive plates in close, physical proximity to switching magnetic polarity seems to be a common theme to many AE devices.

I believe I got a gain, the voltage went up, the current dropped and the motor got very hot. The gain was in heat

@mbrown, if I remember correctly, the slotted case creates a specific magnetic polarity in the case? Maybe this needs to switch? What effect would the switching magnetic polarity have on the external coil? Even JB used a weak magnetic switching, with the capacitive coupling of small coils to create some amazing gain on that ferris wheel device he built. He also used the dielectric of a couple large capacitors for the supposed collection.

More food for thought.

Randy

The split in the case appears to be to prevent a magnetic short and cause two magnetic circuits to pass through one armature. I have considered if the the circuits switch, which is possible, but remain undecided at this point. I am pursuing a different route at the moment but anything is possible

[mbrownn]

What is your source that you mentioned eye witnesses in first sentence? I've seen every video made on the Lockridge device. Did I miss something?

Sorry so scattered,
wantomake

I believe it was Robert49 but I could be wrong.

[HansKammler]

humming coils and measure coils

The idea of the variable LEM Radiations ?

>but a series LCR will live with an cap in series of an L
around a case and then you will certainly put the cap arround the coils !!!


so I like the idea of a L1 and Cap in series , parallel with L2 and a R load
but this needs now to be build and measured.
everytime the magnetic lines will travel across the coil (yes that will 90 degrees from the other coils in the generator in faradayspeech)

Q1:
but for this idea, the the coil is not winded horizontal for this, it is winded vertical to collect rotating lines of force (magn.)
or what you think ?

So you get a kick in L1 and then a damping wave will occur with C that will
induce a higher voltage with less current in L2 to the R (300W bulbs)
to consume the power.



Fig A, B
some possibilities how to connect the trifilar coil with C and R

Fig C:
You can light a 230 VAC bulb with 40Volts if you drive it resonant to
get as much light as a 230V 25W bulb on mains directly.
the cap is not a polarized one like an EL-Cap you buy a motorcap for
this because this LCR (R=lamp) circuit is a damped oscillator at
50 hz .

Paul Babcock and Jim would be happy now because we talk about their project
as you learned in "babcock magnet secrets" how to multiply the power of light vs. fuel consumtion.
Paul: "going forward and back to the load , over and over again" JIM: "use the power more than one time" etc. etc.
they build a LCR oscillator/transformer with the windings from the diesel gen.
But this you know allready ?



Humming coils:

[tachyoncatcher]

What is your source that you mentioned eye witnesses in first sentence? I've seen every video made on the Lockridge device. Did I miss something?

Robert49 did report a "clicking sound" here. A possible clue to a missing component. What makes clicking sounds? A spark gap maybe? I also heard about the resonance sound from another source who I just can't remember. JB or Mark McKay? Not sure.

I have literally heard this, waaa waaa wa wa wa wa waaaaaa is the best way I can describe it.
I believe I got a gain, the voltage went up, the current dropped and the motor got very hot. The gain was in heat.

Wonderful! A saturation issue for sure, but not a brick wall. Yes, on the "waaa waaa wa ..."

Humming coils:

With the expertise mbrown has collected on magnetic flow in motors/generators and your firm grasp of resonance, Hans, I believe you two could solve this thing.

Good Luck,
Randy

[mbrownn]

for the Lockridge device there are not so many possibilities of working
with such a small count of pieces. But maybe not all pieces are present to us
(like always )

This is very true

EM Radiations ?

If I am correct, and it works in attraction, the flux will be held within the case and very little will leak out. This would mean that the reason the the trifilar coil are wrapped around the case for only one reason, convenience.

>but a series LCR will live with an cap in series of an L
around a case and then you will certainly put the cap arround the coils !!!


so I like the idea of a L1 and Cap in series , parallel with L2 and a R load
but this needs now to be build and measured.
everytime the magnetic lines will travel across the coil (yes that will 90 degrees from the other coils in the generator in faradayspeech)

Yes, the coil would seem to be wound the wrong way. There is another possibility that I looked at. If you wanted to create a magnetic diode, that is make it so the magnetic poles do not reverse despite any AC in the coils you could put a coil around the part of the flux path to do so, but as you pointed out, again it is 90 degrees out.

Q1:
but for this idea, the the coil is not winded horizontal for this, it is winded vertical to collect rotating lines of force (magn.)
or what you think ?

So you get a kick in L1 and then a damping wave will occur with C that will
induce a higher voltage with less current in L2 to the R (300W bulbs)
to consume the power.



Fig A, B
some possibilities how to connect the trifilar coil with C and R

Fig C:
You can light a 230 VAC bulb with 40Volts if you drive it resonant to
get as much light as a 230V 25W bulb on mains directly.
the cap is not a polarized one like an EL-Cap you buy a motorcap for
this because this LCR (R=lamp) circuit is a damped oscillator at
50 hz .

Paul Babcock and Jim would be happy now because we talk about their project
as you learned in "babcock magnet secrets" how to multiply the power of light vs. fuel consumtion.
Paul: "going forward and back to the load , over and over again" JIM: "use the power more than one time" etc. etc.
they build a LCR oscillator/transformer with the windings from the diesel gen.
But this you know allready ?



Humming coils:

Sorry I didn't. I gave up on resonance as a primary function of the machine and followed a more simple and obvious path but that does not mean I am right. I encourage you to investigate this as far as you can, you will probably do a better job of it than I did

Keep giving us your thoughts as there is probably a lot that I missed on this

[mbrownn]

Robert49 did report a "clicking sound" here. A possible clue to a missing component. What makes clicking sounds? A spark gap maybe? I also heard about the resonance sound from another source who I just can't remember. JB or Mark McKay? Not sure.

Think about this as a cause for the clicking, at startup and low speeds anyway. If we have capacitor discharge into the motor, the currents could be huge, this would cause all the components to flex with the pulse of magnetism. Imagine the coils and even the wound capacitor flexing with each pulse. If the capacitor was charged as high as 400v as I believe either JB or PL suggested, the current could be kA and the magnetic field monstrous. It would be like a MRI scanner being turned on.

Wonderful! A saturation issue for sure, but not a brick wall. Yes, on the "waaa waaa wa ..."

I have no idea, but it got very hot and started to smoke

With the expertise mbrown has collected on magnetic flow in motors/generators and your firm grasp of resonance, Hans, I believe you two could solve this thing.

Good Luck,
Randy

Thanks for your complement, but my expertise is only a result of persistence. It may sound like I am saying the thing that Hans is looking at wont work, I am not. Remember I thought this way too at one point, and even tried to make it work. Unfortunately I was unsuccessful so I can only report my failure. Its not about telling people to do it my way, its about finding out how it worked. Even when we do get it to work, it may not be the way it was actually done hehehe