Lockridge Device - Peter Lindemann

[wantomake]

yes

Thanks mbrownn,
I've got the case slotted as I posted before. There are no wires on the armature and I'm going to rewind it.

Can you do a lap winding and skip every other segment? This seems to be only way to charge the capacitor with a spike captured with the generator brushes.

Thanks,
wantomake

[mbrownn]

Sorry for the late reply

I used an armature that had twice as many segments on the commutator as slots in the armature. This resulted in every other commutator segment being blank.

I wound the armature so that each side of the coil was 180 degrees from the other, you find modern armatures are not wound this way. the result was a very good motoring action and a lot of arcing on the commutator (i never got the recovery brushes fitted before the device was stolen, no conspiracy just thieves stealing copper) see the drawing on this post http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post229325

If your going to rewind, i would not bother with lap winding

[garrypm]

Hi Mike,

If you have not seen quanta magnetics recent videos, I suggest you take
a few minutes and view them. (The last two anyway)

Something jumps out at me re the lockridge.

Here is a link - Quanta Magnetics - Energy Research - YouTube

Cheers, Garry

[mbrownn]

Hi Mike,

If you have not seen quanta magnetics recent videos, I suggest you take
a few minutes and view them. (The last two anyway)

Something jumps out at me re the lockridge.

Here is a link - Quanta Magnetics - Energy Research - YouTube

Cheers, Garry

Interesting though definitely different from the Lockridge.

[wantomake]

will push onward

Hello to All,

Been in Japan for the summer, will start back with the building and then testing of the Lockridge device. It will be close to the exact as seen in the J Bedini video. With some minor differences.

I think imho, that the device must be built with the inductor, capacitor, and case in close proximity to each other.

Will post results.

wantomake

[mbrownn]

Hello to All,

Been in Japan for the summer, will start back with the building and then testing of the Lockridge device. It will be close to the exact as seen in the J Bedini video. With some minor differences.

I think imho, that the device must be built with the inductor, capacitor, and case in close proximity to each other.

Will post results.

wantomake

The motor, generator and transformer actions must take place on the same core, this way we only have one set of iron losses. My research has been closest to the original device as far as I know of any other researcher. I will share everything I know.

[wantomake]

Looking forward

Thanks mbrownn,

I look forward to your progress and hope we can finish this project and put it to use.

We have worked on this for a long time, you more than any. I hope to start this week in the shop as I have a ton to caught up with after such long time away from home.

Really anticipate your pictures or video's. PM me if need to.

wantomake

[mbrownn]

Sorry for the late reply, I don't have internet access these days and have to go to the internet cafe.

The first thing you need to do is get a four pole generator like the delco and slot the case. This way you separate the magnetic circuits.

The slots can be as wide as you want but if they are too narrow you will get some magnetic leakage across them. At this time I dont know how much metal should be left at each end of the slots, I am guessing that as small amount as possible while keeping the structural integrity but there is a possibility that some metal may be required for the triflar coil functions.

Next would be positioning of the brushes if you want to test all the options but if you go straight into an armature rewind you can leave the brushes until after you do that.

80% of the tricks is the motor generator transformer and functions in the rotor and stator with 20% or so in the trifilar coil. It may not be necessary to have a trifilar coil if everything was perfectly matched although I believe their should be windings wrapped around the motor. I have not proved this yet.

If your happy to do a complete rewind I believe a four pole starter motor could be used although it is best to have nice free bearings instead of bushes.

Come on guys have a go

[wantomake]

progress

To All,
Just finished installing field coils - generator and motor. Case has 1/4 inch wide slots that stop 1/2 inch from top and bottom.

21 awg wire for trifilar coil in the mail. Will need to wind armature.. Not sure awg size but guessing 19 to 17.

Will refabricate brush holders (4). Ordered front face plate, so will have bearings on both ends.

Still working at it,
wantomake

[mbrownn]

Keep up the good work.

[wantomake]

Field coils

mbrownn,
Did you build your generator and motor field coil same size ? I noticed on the John B. video that one coil is larger than the other for both gen and motor. What's your thought on this.

Still on it,
wantomake

[tachyoncatcher]

A Proposal

mbrownn,
Did you build your generator and motor field coil same size ? I noticed on the John B. video that one coil is larger than the other for both gen and motor. What's your thought on this.

Still on it,
wantomake

My 2 cents. What we have been told: Lockridge was a man of little resource. Therefore the field cores had to be original. Anything else would of required considerable resources to get made and did not fit the man's circumstance. The positioning of the field cores were moved from original. This makes sense to change the timing of gen coils from the original motor coils. The replication shown in the Bedini video #14 was NOT built on the original, but rather people's remembrance of the machine, decades later. And "slow" people at that. I think it is safe to say there can be some mistakes in the build.

And now my heresy:
I believe this to be a radiant device. Conventional motor theory is out the door. This is NOT a BEMF recovery system. I believe the gen coils to be high impedance coils of smaller gauge wire than the original wire. The capacitance of these coils ( field collapse )was used to affect the trifilar windings, not the BEMF. Timing is critical here.

Why trifilar, litzed windings? This is the AC side of the machine. We know litzing increases the conductivity of AC for high frequency current. I believe this coil to be the harmonic side of the system. This is where a high frequency environment is setup to induce the aether for transfer ( What??? I thought we gave up on aether theory 100 years ago. Uh, no. ) This coil is activated by the collapsing field of the gen coil.

The capacitor. This is the collector. If I'm right in all this, the capacitor is where the load is connected to. This is not part of a tank ( big guess ). It must be wound around the outside of trifilar coil as the original and not a separate component.

What we will never know, without an original device, is the off-the-shelf components that were used to tune the device. This is some presumption along with some of my experimental results with harmonics and spinners. I could be completely wrong about this Lockridge device, so before you get your panties in a bunch, this is my best guess. I'm currently laid up, so I can't test this proposed assembly, but it may inspire someone. As always;
Good Luck,
Randy

[wantomake]

Good post

Hey Randy,
Hope you get back on your feet so if possible you can help finish this device.

Have you read my notes or something, cause we are eye to eye on this. There's no other way to finish this but to build and experiment with different coils, gauges of wire, etc, and only parts from that era.

I am winding the copper capacitor around the conductor(lenz wound) and have the same case arrangements.

Take care,
wantomake

[mbrownn]

mbrownn,
Did you build your generator and motor field coil same size ? I noticed on the John B. video that one coil is larger than the other for both gen and motor. What's your thought on this.

Still on it,
wantomake

I dont know the answer yet but here are the things I have thought.

The generator coil could be Bifilar with each winding being the same number of turns as the powered field coils. There is a good reason to believe this but i dont have any experiments yet to establish anything so I wont go into it here yet.

The generator may be double the number of turns of the powered field coils

Both these designs are to help with the problem of having an AC and DC output in the generator coil. Having said that there is a possibility that by saturating the core of the device so that the metal is working on the curved part of the graph near full saturation may also have a beneficial effect in this area, if so this will be one of the functions of the trifilar coil ie to cause core saturation. I cant remember if it was the Squires or Babcock video that discusses this a little with the key information coming from Eric Dollards work.

[mbrownn]

My 2 cents. What we have been told: Lockridge was a man of little resource. Therefore the field cores had to be original. Anything else would of required considerable resources to get made and did not fit the man's circumstance. The positioning of the field cores were moved from original. This makes sense to change the timing of gen coils from the original motor coils. The replication shown in the Bedini video #14 was NOT built on the original, but rather people's remembrance of the machine, decades later. And "slow" people at that. I think it is safe to say there can be some mistakes in the build.

And now my heresy:
I believe this to be a radiant device. Conventional motor theory is out the door. This is NOT a BEMF recovery system. I believe the gen coils to be high impedance coils of smaller gauge wire than the original wire. The capacitance of these coils ( field collapse )was used to affect the trifilar windings, not the BEMF. Timing is critical here.

Why trifilar, litzed windings? This is the AC side of the machine. We know litzing increases the conductivity of AC for high frequency current. I believe this coil to be the harmonic side of the system. This is where a high frequency environment is setup to induce the aether for transfer ( What??? I thought we gave up on aether theory 100 years ago. Uh, no. ) This coil is activated by the collapsing field of the gen coil.

The capacitor. This is the collector. If I'm right in all this, the capacitor is where the load is connected to. This is not part of a tank ( big guess ). It must be wound around the outside of trifilar coil as the original and not a separate component.

What we will never know, without an original device, is the off-the-shelf components that were used to tune the device. This is some presumption along with some of my experimental results with harmonics and spinners. I could be completely wrong about this Lockridge device, so before you get your panties in a bunch, this is my best guess. I'm currently laid up, so I can't test this proposed assembly, but it may inspire someone. As always;
Good Luck,
Randy

Not heresy but welcomed input however I have to say that i am thinking it is a little more conventional than that. While i suspect radiant is collected and recycled within the device, it is only done to improve efficiency.

The basis of this device is a motor, a generator and a transformer all on the same core thus there is only one set of iron and bearing losses yet three devices functioning simultaneously. OK its not really a motor because all the power coils and armature coils are set up in magnetic lock so lets call it an energizer. It is because the flux is forced through the generator coils that we get a turning action, this happens because of the slots in the case. This also results in a transformer action in the generator coils as well as generation.

Referring to the Squires and Babcock video's, because there is little movement of flux in the powered field coils there is also little BEMF generated here hence reduced BEMF and a high current draw from the supply. Both these points have been tested and proven.

It may be that the trifilar coil is also acting as the supply as shown in the video, this I have not yet tested

Now lets think about this as far as efficiency goes, a universal motor is very inefficient but reducing the BEMF will improve this. if we count all the iron losses and bearing losses in the motoring function, we cannot count them in the generator or the transformer functions because they are on the same core, so these actions will be very efficient. As the two outputs occur from the same input we have a doubling of the output with the generator being close to the motoring power of 35% plus the transformer action being around 60% which will give us 95%. Ok we have the AC and DC outputs to consider and in conventional ways they partially oppose each other but i am working on that. Now we consider any pulse motor inductive kickback or radiant that we can collect and we may be above the 100%. Typically I have collected 17% in my tests.

If it is true that with a heavily saturated core that the transformer output is not AC but a sign wave DC then the generator output and transformer output could be cumulative (I believe Eric Dollard did some work in this area) If not a bifilar coil on the output with diodes could be a method of rectification. I haven't tested either of these yet.

So although it is a very unconventional way of wiring a motor and generator all the aspects of this are conventional, as is the transformer action. Now when we wind this trifillar coil on the outside of the motor case do we get a second transformer action? and do we get the rectification? I dont know but i will find out.

Hope you understand my explanations and please give me feedback even if it is negative because it may be something I havent thought about.