Static charge inducing current

[madhatter]

[sucahyo]

Very interesting .

I have been searching that kind of implementation too.


That arrangemeent seem like caudaceus / mobius power utilization:

THE PASSIVE MICRO - INDUCTIVE ARRAY AS A NOVEL ENERGY CONVERSION SYSTEM
by Nicholas A. Reiter and Dr.Samuel P. Faile, 10 January 1996

The coil is caudaceus coil.

Can you try the circuit?

[madhatter]

had some time to build to single circuit with just two coils, right/left. it didn't work, no charge to cap.

so back to the original layout that I chose simply in order to induce a field after the initial charge, this layout seems to also induce a current flow to charge the cap and also light an LED when discharged or if grounded and I can generate enough charge it will light.

more pics attached to show actual setup.

it's fascinating to me that no wires are needed to collect the static charge on such a simple setup.

[Jbignes5]

Why is that surprising..

It is after all inductive charging. Static has a way to influence other bodies just by coming close to the source or visa versa. Thats what induction is all about and that is probably the most effective way to tap the source without discharging the source.

[madhatter]

It is after all inductive charging. Static has a way to influence other bodies just by coming close to the source or visa versa. Thats what induction is all about and that is probably the most effective way to tap the source without discharging the source.

true except in this case it's AC voltage with a VLF hz. notably this is different as the std electrostatic induction will cause an opposite charge to build. this is what is fascinating to me, I don't have strong background in high voltage testing other than what is taught in school and then it's brief as the focus is on QED and that's whole nother topic.

here's another interesting observation. charge the circuit with static Q then ground the cap lead and the LED lights, however it will not fully discharge as that grounding will cause a spike in voltage and a small charge will accumulate again and you can ground the cap lead again to light the LED. I can get about 6 visible light offs on the LED with a single short static Q. the large 600v caps will not fully discharge unless removed from the circuit. I'm going to try and put a transistor circuit to ground to see how long it will light the LED before another static Q is needed.

the more load on the circuit the brighter the LED lights, that may just be due to the high voltage though.

[madhatter]

I made this circuit to test an idea. this arrangement does not work. it will show a voltage and VLF Hz that will last a couple seconds after the static Q but it does not charge the cap.


the original setup seems to be able to hold and charge the cap. it will also after letting the static charge build a bit get the LED to glow dim without grounding the circuit, it seems to be grounding out of the 'air' ? it's a sustained light without sparks. even more fascinating is that if you bring your fingers near the lead there is a pressure pushing back against you with an audible hum that intensifies the light, but no spark unless you push thru the 'bubble' and break that field causing the pseudo ground.

That alone was enough for me to step back and go ! it wasn't the normal static charge sensation but a sensation that your touching a physical bubble of force.

I need to build a static generating rig to see if I can enhance whats going on. It did remind me of the video of BSF where they demonstrate the high Hz transmission and mention the pressure on the bulb felt externally.

[madhatter]

Very interesting .

I have been searching that kind of implementation too.


That arrangemeent seem like caudaceus / mobius power utilization:


The coil is caudaceus coil.

Can you try the circuit?

The second circuit is similar to what I have just not cylinder coils. I found that the diodes had zero effect with output in my case.

I'm building a large variable condenser to see what tuning can be done as well. the larger the cap the higher the voltage the meter reads and the smaller the grounding spark becomes.

[sucahyo]

Interesting . It is weird that diode have no effect because meter surely contain diode?

What kind of meter that you use? can you try to use it to charge battery or capacitor? If diode useless then we can't charge them?

I will look forward for more result .

[madhatter]

Interesting . It is weird that diode have no effect because meter surely contain diode?

What kind of meter that you use? can you try to use it to charge battery or capacitor? If diode useless then we can't charge them?

I will look forward for more result .

Ahh, the I'm sure the a diode rectifier would be helpful somewhere in the circuit but I'm not sure where considering the way I have it now is as single line and the cap still charges.
I'll try other arrangements after I can can generate a consistent static charge.

[madhatter]

oh, I have a couple Fluke meters, I used the true RMS one in this case. so basicly a DMM.

I need to build some analog meters for high voltage as the DMM just peaks out.

I set the meter to read Hz and would read anywhere from 3 to 900Hz, so it's just sporadic, however it does hold cycle for a bit after the static charging is done. from about 6ft away I'll build the static charge and the meter will pick up the charge Hz but instantly the coils will match the the ambient 60Hz hum of the shop and hold it for a few seconds. if I get closer it doesn't match the Hz. So it seems that the coil antennae will match resonance with the background Hz.

[Zooty]

had some time to build to single circuit with just two coils, right/left. it didn't work, no charge to cap.

so back to the original layout that I chose simply in order to induce a field after the initial charge, this layout seems to also induce a current flow to charge the cap and also light an LED when discharged or if grounded and I can generate enough charge it will light.

more pics attached to show actual setup.

it's fascinating to me that no wires are needed to collect the static charge on such a simple setup.

How did you wind those nice little pancakes?

[madhatter]

used a dremmel kevlar cutoof disk attachted to the spindle bit and twirled it by hand usign the screw to hold the centger leads down. took about 1hr to wind 10. used cyanocrylate to hold it down.

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the info .

What is the reading of the charged capacitor?