Captret - Perpetual Light with Dead Batteries

[Jbignes5]

Another interesting finding.

The cap that I added to the led in series is actually at 10.3 volts? Hmmm... This could be our charging source....

[ewizard]

Just one other thought with this circuit. Forget the LED and try a variety of regular diodes. Might not seem as fun without the light but if it produces a better charging effect on the battery I'd be excited by this simple self charger! I'm thinking I'll try some high frequency switching diodes.

[seth]

. So you are trying to say you are able to draw from a 200-500k ohm resistance that amount of current from what kind of power source, 300V or more???

What kind of game are you playing with everyone here??

The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. I came, i saw, i youtubed it. My exciter running on a captret lighting 6 LEDs and a CFL (barely ). No self charging observed.

YouTube - exciter on captret

Have fun everyone and keep the ideas coming! I love em.....thanks again mr ibpointless.

[Artisan]

Flashing captret

Thanks!

With the flashing i was hoping to get rid of the fading of the led, does the LED look like it is fading? If it is flashing at the right hertz it should stay bright at every flash, or at least that what happens when i tap the LED on and off the circuit. So does the LED go dim for you?

I also noted the circuits don't get hot, they seem very cool to me especially the batteries but that could because its getting colder where i live.

Thank you to everyone for taking the time to try my little captret expirement and for expanding on them. Who knows what great gifts the captret will give us, but so far so good.

Hello,

I only had the circuit run for 5 mins. with no loss in luminosity. I will reconnect the circuit and let it run for 24 hrs. and give you an update.

With this setup, the circuit will only flash when the potential is high enough, therefore should be more efficient. The higher the source (battery) potential (say 36V), the more 9.5-10V volts spikes (per transistor) will be generated per second when compared to an 20V battery source for example. To achieve higher voltage spikes, one would simply connect more transistors in series.

At the moment, based on this experiment it seems to me that a higher source voltage equates to a higher E-field flux which should mean a higher displacement current value. So perhaps a plausible approach would be to have a high battery voltage source (such as 36-45V) and use transistors in series (via Esaki arrangement) to create a step-down voltage dividing circuit, where we can try to power various loads in-parallel to the transistor(s)? Just a thought.

[Jbignes5]

update on other setup...

I went and got me some 220uf 16v caps and with just 2 in parallel I am getting the same brightness as I did with the 5 200 volt caps.

This is how weak this battery is. When I started before the changeover the battery was reading 9.35v. After I changed the caps it now reads 8.89 and climbing slowly. I am still running the smaller caps now but it seems they are better then all the biggest caps that I had.

This is for the original setup. Thats what I originally had that worked so well except for no gains on the battery beyond the starting voltage. Thats no problem. Although the other circuit i will still work on with the other battery that i had.

Now I wanted to get the new setup straight IBpointless. I'll have to look for the diagram again i think it was on this page somewhere.

[electricity]

Other self charging electochemical cell

Self-rechargeable, medium level ... - Google Patent Search

[Cherryman]

Hi,

Just thinking out loud..

If the cap is somehow influenced by (magnetic) induction, flux whatever.. I wonder what would happen if you replace the "crocodile" connection of the cap with a coil of fine wire.



Or maybe some magnets (on a baring)



Finally i would suggest a 2 meter long loose wire (antenna) to either one of the posts ( The Tesla electric car "antenna" ;-)

Anyway.. Keep up the good work, i'm off dreaming again.

[ibpointless2]

ibepointless...

if youve got..what you think youve got ( and i hope you do , still doing my own messy tests here btw ).... then boy....is B*dini gonna be pissed ! lol no rotors....no magnets....no spinny-twirly thingies...no coils....lol.....oh boy

I love this, made my day!

[electricity]

Electrolyte update

For DIY captret, I found Ethylene glycol (Antifreeze diluted 50%) to work very well. I have a bank of 4 (Red Bull 12 oz) captret rigged up, this will be fun!

I can't seem to edit my older postings

Happy tinkering!

[thedude]

Games??? No games Dr Stiffler. I have no idea why you have taken such a dislike towards me, but i can assure you its not warranted.

Hey Seth. Sorry about Dr Stiffler. I read your post to which he accused you of playing games and was a bit confused. I assumed you and he had prior confrontation of some sort.

My take was that your were making some pretty straight forward observations, following a line of experimentation and contributing to the discussion. He made no attempt to inquire about what you were doing, just accusations, which seriously sucks.

Dr Stiffler has a standing bet in which he denies the very existence of COP>1 . Its a pretence that seems to make him quite abrasive to open discussion. I've found that he will take a stance based on a fairly qualified position and publish a statement regarding any device that exhibits high efficiency that approaches COP>1 in any way. I would like to hear his take on what Steorn is doing quite publicly.

Often these sort of tactics can be discouraging to those of us with out PHDs. In my opinion we need more people who are willing to do the experiments, not less. I'm not sure Dr would agree. I'm glad your not discouraged. Its a developmental process that we go through. Not everyone arrives at the same conclusions at the same time. Sometimes during the investigation we reveal new concepts along the way. Keep up the work.

All that being said, I do encourage people to take voltage readings between the 0 (case) and Positive and negative leads comparatively as well its standing voltage as your devices are running. More can be revealed with this information.

Thanks for your video.

[ibpointless2]

Update on the self charging captret aka dosen't play by the rules.

recap:
I let two of my 9 volt batteries sit while i went to school and then to work, a good 12 hours.

I hooked them up to the new circuit that had a capacitor in series, for the hell of it.

The standing voltage from when i got home from work was 17.17 volts on both together. Keep in mind that these two have never been separated since i got them, they are just one battery now and shall not be separated ever.

I hook it up to the circuit and it stays at 17.17 volts while lighting the LED, the LED was very dim and still is.

I left it running all night while i slept, had to wake up early i had english at 8am.

Woke up this morning to find the LED still going but now the batteries were at 17.19 volts.

So i left it alone and went to school and work, when i got home its at 17.20 volts and its flashing back in forth between 17.20 and 17.21, as if it wants to be at 17.21 volts.

To sum it all up.

standing voltage = 17.17 volts
under load = 17.17 volts
the next moring under load = 17.19 volts
after work under load = 17.20 volts and it wants to go to 17.21 volts

I think i see a pattern


Like i said my captrets don't like to play by the rules.

[Lidmotor]

Captret with an Exciter

@All
I worked with the Captret today using several Exciter circuits. Here is one of the more interesting setups that I did. The way that the LED stays on after the power is removed is very interesting.

YouTube - Captret working with an Exciter circuit.ASF

Cheers,
Lidmotor

P.S. I suggest reading or re-reading Dr. Stiffler's paper on the Captret.http://67.76.235.52/capret.htm I just spent a day working with this thing and after reading his paper again what I saw today makes more sense to me. I don't think that this is a magic device but that doesn't mean that we can't find a good use for it somehow.

[CosmicFarmer]

Hello all, just popped my head in to read everything. I will replicate this soon as this is really simple and I already have the parts... Sometime before monday. I don't have red leds, just every other color imaginable.. ahah where did I leave my reds... Maybe I'll try color change ones with a crystal

Anyway, this is my imagination on whats going on... I have not seen anyone say this before but I think that there might be a semiconductor junction beyond that of a simple diode in the capacitor for it to show an AC waveform. This is all based on what other people have shown so I do not know myself yet.

regardless, what about the possibility that in the right capacitor there not only is a capacitive element, an inductive element (double scroll construction) as well as a semiconductor element (phantom diode or phantom transistor)? Also, a used or conditioned capacitor might have corrosion on the plates that lead to inadvertent semiconductors.

So basically in one part we have everything needed to make an oscillator. Hm.

@IBpointless2 - please let that double battery captret run for a long time, like a week or a month.

There is a possibility that the capacitor is making the battery warm up which increases its voltage, but I would only imagine that could happen when current is being used, as it is now the captret is a voltage only junction which seems to halt current, at least up to the sensitivity of our meters.


I like the idea of resonant crystal and coil, I think this must be explored further. I have a collection of fresh resonators at harmonic numbers of each other, if someone can imagine a smart way to hook them up I will try it.

About Miki's post, where she thinks that the capacitor is somehow receiving ambient RF. Would the area of that tiny capacitor be large enough to capture enough ambient RF to power a LED? You would have to be very close to a transmission source, or use a near field antenna idea, but even then I don't think it could happen that way.

To be honest it looks like Miki joined here just to dispute the captret effect, and on several peoples videos there are extensive debunkings by people who have no videos... If we were outright wrong in doing something, sometimes people let them go ahead and be wrong, but if we are onto something right, then maybe paid people will come along and try to throw knowledge around and discredit what is happening???? I don't know.

It does seem to be a vary small amount of voltage gain, but that's why we need to have a very long test done. Its analogous to ground power research, where you need to have a log book of weeks to totally understand something, instead of just hours.

[jonnydavro]

@IBpointless2.Thanks for posting this interesting circuit .Others may have experimented in this area in the past but your method is so easily replicated with off the shelf parts,anyone can try it and see for themselves that there is something going on which is not the norm.
From looking at Lidmotors latest vid on the captret,I would say that there is a phantom resistor along with the phantom diode which is basically turning a cheap electrolitic cap into a supercap as that is how Lids captret is behaving with the slow discharge.This phantom resistor may also be an automatic variable resistor and may change as the cap charge decreases and so acts like the voltage regulator Lid refered too which by itself makes your captret a quite remarkable device and well worth continued investigation.
I also have the feeling that the capacity of Lidmotors cap has been increased as it seems to be lighting that led for a mighty long time for such a small cap and it would be interesting to see an identical cap with a resistor in a run time test against Lids captret and maybe some capacity measurements of the two caps which this device seems to be.Nice work everyone.Jonny

[Joit]

Some other Results, just not very positive,

First i did let it run last night at a 9V Block Accu with 47µF.
Voltage did drop from 9,47 to 9,43.
Not sure if my Tronic Accu is crap or it needs an other adjustment or
at last an other Accumulator.
The 9V Batterie do hold it better.

Before i did tied it to the Basic way,
i did leave the Plus from the Captret away, and it still did seems as if it hold the Charge.
So it may means, that this Plus of the Cap is not really needed.
Further i measured the Amperage through the Diode,
and i found about 100µA, what is really really not much,
not sure, if that is enough to even trigger a Transistor.
(It may equals what i can get amperage from my Neontube and one of
the crappy und un-fruitfully 12V Solarpanels)
No AC anywhere, but i still wonder about, why it works on that low level.
Still thinking about, if the Way is, to got the Minus side inductive connected,
as if to make a hard connection.

And thank you for your kind Words thedude,
i think its sometimes hard, to leave feelings out at some topics.
Right know i see it the Way too as may others do.
It is at the border to unity, but hardly over or under that.
I did thinking about, to run other Devies on it, but with this low amperages
(micro amperages), it may will give some headache, to make it more efficient.
But very positive is, that it even runs on unity, its way more, what you can expect from any other Things.