Lotsawatts 1.5 In 4 Out

[lamare]

If the coil does not drive the magnet, than what makes it turn?

You know, there's a very interesting similarity between the guys turning magnets and the guys splitting water. They all use the same kind of circuits to drive some coil(s) into resonance which then makes something interesting happening, but for some reason they all seem to be convinced they get their energy from anywhere but the resonating coils let alone the electric field that drives the coil(s) in the first place, but which is known to be source of free energy at least ever since Bearden talked about not killing the dipole.

Can you get the logic behind that?

[Aaron]

measuring input and output

My next purchase will be a watt meter so I can get a true watt value on output. Lamp apparent brightness is not a reliable indicator.

Between A & B, you can put a 0.25 ohm resistor or other very low resistance
resistor then measure the voltage difference between both ends of the
resistor to determine what your current draw is.

You could use a scope and measure ac rms across that resistor.
And also compare against a DC mean reading. I don't
think your frequency is too high and you could get a very accurate
measurement of what your bulbs are drawing.

You could measure the average voltage of the cap between A & D to
multiply the current over the current sensing resistor and get a very good
idea of what you are drawing.

You can do the same off the battery. Put a 0.25 ohm off the negative
terminal of the battery and measure the voltage of the battery and that
would be a good indication of your real input.

You're not going into high frequency or anything so you will have a very
accurate reading.

The output reading this way won't account for what you're producing
and losing through the diodes but if you show anything near 4 times over,
those losses are insignificant and you will know if you're over or not.

[gyula]

Hi Tom,

I have suggested an alternative measuring method this morning to you at ou forum, have you seen it:
Possible overunity generator device

Because you have already DC output and you load it with the 4 lamps, if you multiply the loaded DC output voltage with the lamps' measured DC current, you can get a pretty good approch for the real output power.

rgds, Gyula

[elias]

Hi All,

Here is how I think this works: The Bedini circuit and coil is powered by 12 volt DC at .125 AMPS. Thats 1.5 watts.

The circuit powers the coil with a low power Hi frequency AC voltage/current.

At a distance above the coil is mounted a 2 inch diameter Diametric ring magnet. 2 inches thick.

That magnet is extremely powerful and attracts to and repels from the lower power Bedini coil. The Bedini coil DOES NOT DRIVE THE MAGNET ABOVE IT. The large magnet does all the work!!! A low .125 amp "INPUT" continuous current draw is proof of that.

The interesting part comes next. The spinning magnets flux field cuts through the Bedini coil generating a Extremely hi frequency AC voltage.

All the AC harvested by the coil is next delivered to the rectifier circuit which turns to DC. DC is easy to work with and can power lamps also. I lit 4 one watt lamps.

My next purchase will be a watt meter so I can get a true watt value on output. Lamp apparent brightness is not a reliable indicator.

Hi,
Of course you can measure the output power by measuring the voltage across your lamps, and the current being drawn by them. I wonder, have you given a spin to your magnet by your hand? How does your magnet rotate? It is not so obvious. If your Bedini circuit is self oscillating, then how does it synchronize with your rotating magnet?

Elias

[magnetman12003]

Lotsawatts

Hi All,

I just ordered a digital wattmeter and will find out shortly what the operating circuit powers up to then what it powers up to with 4 lit lamps. .2 percent accuracy. Will post all.

Tom

[gyula]

Hi Tom,

Ok on your wattmeter buying and in the meantime you may wish to use your digital multimeter once for the output DC voltage measurement and then for the DC output current measurement as I tried to show you in the pictures at overuntity.com

The more measurements you do with different methods the better.
Once the output power SEEMs higher than the input, we have to make sure we do not goof...

rgds, Gyula

[magnetman12003]

Lotsawatts

Hi Tom,

Ok on your wattmeter buying and in the meantime you may wish to use your digital multimeter once for the output DC voltage measurement and then for the DC output current measurement as I tried to show you in the pictures at overuntity.com

The more measurements you do with different methods the better.
Once the output power SEEMs higher than the input, we have to make sure we do not goof...

rgds, Gyula

Depending on where I place the spinning magnet I can adjust the high DC voltage output. I get best magnet rotation as shown in the video. The current is not smooth ( jumpy ) for some unexplained reason and I metered it on a analog meter as well as both Digital true RMS meters I have.

The current averaged .125 amps. I believe I will plug my power supply into the watt meter and see what that reads. Then I will connect the powered Bedini circuit to my power supply and take another reading. Then I will turn on all 4 lamps with the Bedini circuit powering them. That last reading should be 4 watts higher?? This watt meter has a .2 percent accuracy.

Tom

[gyula]

Hi Tom,

Do you have a data sheet on the wattmeter in advance (from the web)?
I ask because an important feature is its resolution, whether it is able to display decimal fraction of a Watt.
Suppose your power supply consumes 23 Watts from the 120V AC mains when its output is unloaded. You connect your Bedini circuit and if the meter ought to display say 26.4 Watts but shows 26 Watts instead then you would not be aware of the .4 Watt.

The fluctuating current taken from the 12V supply is due to the pulsed Bedini circuit, it is normal, and it is also ok you try to average the fluctuating readings.
You can remedy this fluctuation by using a low-pass filter that 'smoothes' i.e. attenuates the pulses on the DC voltage and then the measured DC current will be much cleaner, with much less fluctuation.
Here is an online low-pass filter design program http://www.wa4dsy.net/filter/filterdesign.html and I suggest a 7 degree filter filter, that means at least 3 choke coils and 3 capacitors or 4 coils and 3 capacitors. Use a filter corner frequency which below the working frequency of the Bedini circuit, it would be good to know. If you do not have a DMM with freq measure range or a oscilloscope to measure it, then we can assume it is probably over 1kHz? and choose filter corner frequency around or under 1kHz, coils and capacitor values of the filter will depend on this frequency too. If you are interested I could help choosing the components and you order them from Digikey or from somewhere else.

I would like to ask whether you do not feel like measuring the output DC voltage and current I suggested? You may do it taking the voltages one by one across the lamps and sum them up, this way you handle only maximum 120-130V DC at a time, a less dangerous measuring condition.
And the current must be less than 10mA the lamps take because a 1W lamp from 120V consumes 1/120=8.33mA.

rgds, Gyula