Seriously .... has anyone been successful?

[shawnnweed]

Sounds good! Are you open sourcing it or is it a private project?

If you have a working 67% solar cell configuration right now, you have the most efficient one I'm aware of exists.

Any more info about it?

It is a private project that I made public, however I am getting ready to try OU. As expected there are plenty of skeptics. Yet none of them were able to tell me what law of thermodynamics it breaks, because it doesn't break any. They also can't deny the simple math. If you would like to see the project I posted it here under "The challenge...perpetual energy." I would love to join in with someone on this project but no one besides me is willing to take the time to understand it, the energy to devote to it, the equipment to help me reach OU or the funding for parts, which is actually very minimal(less than $400). If someone would simply be willing to stake their reputation on it then they would see that this will work. I am 110%(OU) sure. I am just not sure how long I can keep it running once it starts due to heating. If everything works out and it is properly cooled it could last between 10-30 years before it has to be re-booted.

[morpher44]

Free Energy vs. OU

It seems to me that the challenge is NOT to produce an OU device.
Rather, the challenge here is to create power with the lowest
possible cost and in a scalable way, w/o burning something or destroying
something.

High energy physics research and going for fusion is just crazy.
Fusion would NEVER be given to the individual. Its too dangerous.
I just watched the new x-men movie ... brilliant.
One character can absorb energy and then release it as a weapon.
That character wasn't exhibiting over unity. He could only USE
what he absorbed... redirecting it for another purpose.
It was a god like power, but not over unity.

It seems to me that what we should all be working on is
low-cost energy. This is an optimization ... evolution.
We also need to be working on devices that do work using
LESS power. Again .. an optimization.
By bringing the cost lower and lower ... we approach FREE.
What is needed is a sort of recipe that anyone could follow to
produce their own "small" "safe" amount of energy.
Such a thing would not threaten life and security but would
uplift humanity.

So I would encourage a RE-THINK and what we are really after here.
We are after NEAR-FREE ... not Over Unity.
The economics are the key. If a device can be made with low-cost,
off-the-shelf, easy to find, parts ... we have something then.

I'm finding that I can read at night using an LED lamp that runs
on less than one watt ... for months.
I could also sit there reading my book using a 60 watt bulb.
LEDs are pretty cheap now ....
Batteries are pretty amazing these days.
Joule thief like oscillators are trivial to make.
I think the lighting problem has been solved ... yet it hasn't
been deployed because there is no money in it.
This is a DIY reality.
When the S*it hits the fan, those who have taken the time
to learn a bit of simple electronics can re-light a dark world.
So crack open the books. Search the web. Build stuff... Experiment.
You can sit there in the dark ... or tinker with LEDs ... go for it.

[shawnnweed]

Hi shawnnweed.Any chance of posting more details of what you are doing?
If you are using Leds to iluminate a solar panal and getting a 67% energy recovery then this would help us out immensely with our experiments with exciter circuits,it may even allow us to loop it as hundreds of Leds can be lit very economically with the slayer exciter.Any details you can share with us would be warmly welcomed.
You can see the type of circuits we are using here.Many thanks.Jonny.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=4999

Jonnydavro,

I took a look at the project and experiments you have been running and I believe the 50 or 100 volt led is right up your alley. I have seen other videos of people running CFL's with various Joule thief circuitry/set-ups and creating great amounts of voltage. Using exciter techniques there is no telling how many you could operate simultaneously. Add my idea of solar panels into a closed circuit(replacing the battery) and you could easily create perpetual energy/OU out the ying-yang. I have a basic understanding of what you are doing through the video's and would be glad to see this as an additive for new and truly exciting experiments to come.
If I am correct you could use the SEC/Joule thief with closed circuit PV by pointing the cluster of HV LED's back at the PV cell used to provide the input power. You should be able to close the loop when you get up to about 2,000 lumen. (remember to jump-start this with a 60 watt Edison light bulb) You could start off by using the amorphous silicon panel from a calculator because it is about 1.7 volts and 3ma which is about what you are getting from that 1.5v battery. You could also upgrade to a 5-7 volt amorphous silicon panel from 'deal extreme.' That should boost your voltage to use the 100 or 200 volt LED's. Once you get up to 8,000 lumen, which you should be able to do easily you can point the EXTRA lights, being excited, at a SEPARATE set of PV cells to create OU energy. Spread this idea to all that understand Joule thief technology and it will happen. Also if you can create 400 volts you can put two of the 200 volt LED's in series and run them from 20ma to create 700 lumen. If you use a cluster of these in series you will easily be able to achieve the above mentioned. P.S. wear sunglasses and be mindful of the milliamperes. Last one to the OU finish line is a rotten egg.

[shawnnweed]

It seems to me that the challenge is NOT to produce an OU device.
Rather, the challenge here is to create power with the lowest
possible cost and in a scalable way, w/o burning something or destroying
something.

High energy physics research and going for fusion is just crazy.
Fusion would NEVER be given to the individual. Its too dangerous.
I just watched the new x-men movie ... brilliant.
One character can absorb energy and then release it as a weapon.
That character wasn't exhibiting over unity. He could only USE
what he absorbed... redirecting it for another purpose.
It was a god like power, but not over unity.

It seems to me that what we should all be working on is
low-cost energy. This is an optimization ... evolution.
We also need to be working on devices that do work using
LESS power. Again .. an optimization.
By bringing the cost lower and lower ... we approach FREE.
What is needed is a sort of recipe that anyone could follow to
produce their own "small" "safe" amount of energy.
Such a thing would not threaten life and security but would
uplift humanity.

So I would encourage a RE-THINK and what we are really after here.
We are after NEAR-FREE ... not Over Unity.
The economics are the key. If a device can be made with low-cost,
off-the-shelf, easy to find, parts ... we have something then.

I'm finding that I can read at night using an LED lamp that runs
on less than one watt ... for months.
I could also sit there reading my book using a 60 watt bulb.
LEDs are pretty cheap now ....
Batteries are pretty amazing these days.
Joule thief like oscillators are trivial to make.
I think the lighting problem has been solved ... yet it hasn't
been deployed because there is no money in it.
This is a DIY reality.
When the S*it hits the fan, those who have taken the time
to learn a bit of simple electronics can re-light a dark world.
So crack open the books. Search the web. Build stuff... Experiment.
You can sit there in the dark ... or tinker with LEDs ... go for it.

I know what you mean...but if OU is this close why not go for it?

[FRC]

shawnnweed

I am very intrigued with what you have to say. I have long believed that light
produces more energy than just illumination. Years ago I made a setup using
a propane lantern and a 15 watt solar panel. Not only was I generating electricity, but the lantern was generating heat and light at the same time. I
was getting all three at a lower input cost than trying to achieve these things independently. I used this setup in a camper van I was staying in during the winter. The only Jule thief circuits I have had success with is the Fuji circuit and scanner circuits. I think your approach would work well with these, either using CFL's, florescent tubes, or LED bulbs. One could have a combination system, using sunlight to charge batteries during the day, then switching to a Joule thief lighting system at night. One would have continuous charging, as well as illumination at the same time. A Bedini solar charger could further enhance this if you wanted to go to a larger system. I think you have come up with a very suitable concept for achieving OU or close to it. It can be done on a small scale or a larger one. Thanks for sharing your info !

FRC

[shawnnweed]

I am very intrigued with what you have to say. I have long believed that light
produces more energy than just illumination. Years ago I made a setup using
a propane lantern and a 15 watt solar panel. Not only was I generating electricity, but the lantern was generating heat and light at the same time. I
was getting all three at a lower input cost than trying to achieve these things independently. I used this setup in a camper van I was staying in during the winter. The only Jule thief circuits I have had success with is the Fuji circuit and scanner circuits. I think your approach would work well with these, either using CFL's, florescent tubes, or LED bulbs. One could have a combination system, using sunlight to charge batteries during the day, then switching to a Joule thief lighting system at night. One would have continuous charging, as well as illumination at the same time. A Bedini solar charger could further enhance this if you wanted to go to a larger system. I think you have come up with a very suitable concept for achieving OU or close to it. It can be done on a small scale or a larger one. Thanks for sharing your info !

FRC

The person that is successful in this will only remain alive if they share the info. Anyone that tries to do this solo will only be made to disapear. The reason is simple...you do not take trillions of dollars out of the oil barrons pockets without them putting a bullet between your eyes and making every single trace of you disapear. Beleive me when i say that I am not paranoid just realistic. But you are welcome none-the-less. And I wish you luck none the less and thanks for your addition. But the main reason I suggested the LED's is because the joule theif circuit can create great amounts of voltage but can not maintain a large current. However, it can create a small current that can be transmitted through many leds without loosing initial input as long as you excite them.