Don Smith A review...

[ilandtan]

Hi Med,

That is an interesting photo, though I don't want to be hypnotized. I'm not sure what I'm looking at, and for that reason I can't speak for or against the validity. I don't want to pretend I can describe the mechanics much less explain the parameters. I am interested in one thing and that's how to prove an effect resulting in significant excess power.

Right now I am trying to sift through all the commonalities of what may work. I do believe that opposing coils and resonance seem to be included. One thing that keeps me away from the ETBC is that I read that Tesla in his Colorado Springs experiment had a hard time arriving at the proper tuning because of the capacitance inherent in the coils. I know I want to have the system resonant and the ETBC seems untune-able as an L2 coil ( I couldn't easily expand or contract the windings to change the induction) . I think if someone found a way to build resonant ETBC, for example uniform construction techniques with formulas to build them consistently close to a designed resonant functionality in the RF spectrum I would be very interested. However, adding to the capacitance may not be all that desirable if you can't make it ring in the circuit. Please correct me if I am wrong (and I am OK with that).

[med.3012]

Med have you ever gotten your ETBC to run in resonance, self or between your exciter coil (L1)?

ilandtan,

i am sorry about the disconcertion i may do when i correct something i did, it's normal to make mistakes especially when you work alone , until now i didn't achieved the resonance in ETBC , the concept of L0 ( i think this is what you mean by the exciter coil ) seem to be important but it will affect the resonance of the system due to the high inductance caused by this coil .


there's a strong connection between the ETBC and all Don Smith descriptions about his resonance energy device, but we have to use a ferrite core or anything ferromagnetic material just to help the magnetic side to resonate stronger,

there's a very interesting animated GIF found in the archived Don Smith website :





if you analyse this photo you see the electromagnetic flux generated from a working ETBC ! you see two spinning field locations , the right is the magnetic side , the left is the electric side , in the middle you see the useful radiant energy , the system resonate in a mono direction behavior and this is very strange , the same thing seen in the ETBC , the system give the positive pulse in one direction !!

[ilandtan]

when Don Smith asked about the name of his system he said resonance induction system ! it's like you have a resonating coil since the induction is primarily related with coils, the resonance just put your system in optimal condition so you have a huge amount of power ! but be prepared since you need a good hardware !

Med have you ever gotten your ETBC to run in resonance, self or between your exciter coil (L1)?

[med.3012]

About OU...



If you don't have resonance don't you just have induction?

when Don Smith asked about the name of his system he said resonance induction system ! it's like you have a resonating coil since the induction is primarily related with coils, the resonance just put your system in optimal condition so you have a huge amount of power ! but be prepared since you need a good hardware !

[ilandtan]

Adam Tromble Mantra

About OU...

"All we have to do: Is in a resonant domain, introduce an heterodyning wave or standing wave properly, and it increases the effective field density in a given electromagnet circuit. It increases the density of that field by orders of magnitude" Adam Trombly Who brought the Closed Path Homopolar Generator to the UN, by his account he was well received, so much so "they" took all his ****, and told him to not touch it again.

If you don't have resonance don't you just have induction?

[med.3012]

. My thinking is that bifiler coils, even in Tesla patents are for L2 to provide that extra response,

the ETBC is an extended Tesla Bifilar coil not a tesla bifilar coil this look like comparing a page of a book with a book ! the reason for this is the third dimension created with conducting foils ..

[med.3012]

Med I know how you feel about the ETBC, and I believe there is got to be a resonant component , it seems that all the positive work in OU requires resonance. My thinking is that bifiler coils, even in Tesla patents are for L2 to provide that extra response, I've read that a single wound L2 provides a linear response whereas bifiler provides an exponential one. Do you maintain resonance using your ETBC?

this is not just a felling , i published a video about the 40 W light bulb fired in each 3 second where the input is just a 3 W! the equipment used in this test is very modest ! a tv yoke , 4 ETBC managed in serial, HV power source without maintained resonance, a 1000V fast diode, plus 100 UF/400V capacitor as bank.

after that i was looking for copper foils to work with but i can't find them easily, so the solution is to work with aluminium foils but there's a way How to Solder copper wire to aluminum foil

https://youtu.be/_mYkM9lHMho

the solution is easy and simple ! no need to mechanical contact, i was looking for frequency generator to help me in resonance but we already has it in our computers sound card where you could generate up to 20 KHZ for free i think it's possible to work with less 20KHZ in primary side where it's possible to put a kind of variable inductance to catch the real resonance point ..

[ilandtan]

using two transformer in resonance mode look like a joke, the resonance don't mean you have free energy, we have the resonance almost everywhere but we don't have free energy because the resonance we use work externally not internally, in other words it's a closed system resonance not an open system resonance ..

open system resonance you could join the electric portion with the magnetic portion , when you do that you get a very strong useful radiant energy ... it's like a massless particles, it's a very strange kind of energy, in some test i got a self charged capacitor !!!! some details can be found in my thread , the capacitor remain charged for near 30 min and after short circuit its leg several time for a long period, but when trying to recharge it the phenomena gone

i am not interested in replicating this behavior but i am studying it, it appear there's a lots of interesting thing that can be done only when understanding , this why it's important to explain what's going on rather than giving claims !

Med I know how you feel about the ETBC, and I believe there is got to be a resonant component , it seems that all the positive work in OU requires resonance. My thinking is that bifiler coils, even in Tesla patents are for L2 to provide that extra response, I've read that a single wound L2 provides a linear response whereas bifiler provides an exponential one. Do you maintain resonance using your ETBC?

[med.3012]

I understand what you guys are saying. That you want to store the resonant rise power in storage caps. However, both Don Smith who went through showing how to create your own device and two Zilano ciruits, where no storage caps were used and the output trafo was connected directly. Please explain how that could be possible?

Here is the second no spark needed, or HV, HF, and NO STORAGE CAPS!:

using two transformer in resonance mode look like a joke, the resonance don't mean you have free energy, we have the resonance almost everywhere but we don't have free energy because the resonance we use work externally not internally, in other words it's a closed system resonance not an open system resonance ..

open system resonance you could join the electric portion with the magnetic portion , when you do that you get a very strong useful radiant energy ... it's like a massless particles, it's a very strange kind of energy, in some test i got a self charged capacitor !!!! some details can be found in my thread , the capacitor remain charged for near 30 min and after short circuit its leg several time for a long period, but when trying to recharge it the phenomena gone

i am not interested in replicating this behavior but i am studying it, it appear there's a lots of interesting thing that can be done only when understanding , this why it's important to explain what's going on rather than giving claims !

[med.3012]

The primary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 1
The secondary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 2
The secondary contains also antenna and because of that there is also 3 resonant frequency for longitudinal 1/4 wavelength so the secondary is efficient radio transmitter.
You spark primary tank circuit not frequently, but it oscillate freely, secondary oscillate on some harmonics and the resonant LC and the length of antenna is correlated (L= 1/4 wavelength). Antenna instead of transmitting radio around is matched to the output part so all energy from ambient is stored in capacitors.

I do not pretend it works but the essence is something like above.

The secondary is a receiver coil, there's two very important frequency, the first is the frequency of HV power source this frequency intended to give a very high reactive current ( as much as you can ) this is a reactive electric power transformed into active power in L1, L1 has its own NATURAL RESONANCE FREQUENCY it have to be a natural resonance because it's an OPEN SYSTEM the word open mean there's an internal interaction between magnetic and electric field ... when the two meet each other you have your REAL ACTIVE POWER ...

[ilandtan]

The primary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 1
The secondary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 2
The secondary contains also antenna and because of that there is also 3 resonant frequency for longitudinal 1/4 wavelength so the secondary is efficient radio transmitter.
You spark primary tank circuit not frequently, but it oscillate freely, secondary oscillate on some harmonics and the resonant LC and the length of antenna is correlated (L= 1/4 wavelength). Antenna instead of transmitting radio around is matched to the output part so all energy from ambient is stored in capacitors.

I do not pretend it works but the essence is something like above.

I understand what you guys are saying. That you want to store the resonant rise power in storage caps. However, both Don Smith who went through showing how to create your own device and two Zilano ciruits, where no storage caps were used and the output trafo was connected directly. Please explain how that could be possible?

Here is the second no spark needed, or HV, HF, and NO STORAGE CAPS!:

Aug. 10, 2011
Zilano
The Shortest Way To Success Easy Way No Sparks No High Tension To Mention
hI this is zilano zane!
A NEW BREAKTHROUGH in don
technology.
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must read
a small scale demo setup! can be upscaled for home use!
take a 12 v 220 or 110 volt 1 amps step down transformer with 2 wires
primary and 2 wires secondary measure L of primary with lcr meter and
use resonance calculator to calculate caps for 50 or 60 hz. use this cap
across primary. then calculate L of secondary with LCR meter and use
resonance calc to get secondary caps value for secondary 50 or 60 hz.
now take another 12v 220 v or 12 v 110 v 1 amp transformer. feed 12 v ac
to ur resonating transformer with caps to its primary it will make it
oscillate in resonance with secondary of resonating secondary with caps.
attach a 220 v or 110 v as ur trasnformer u r using attach load. measure
input power and output power and calculate gain. use iron cored
transformers. core is suitable for 50 hz resonance. attach caps in parallel
across primary and secondary of the transformer.
RESONANCE FREQUENCY IS 50 OR 60 HZ DEPENDING UR GRID
SUPPLY FREQUENCY COUNTRY DEPENDENT. FIND CAPS
ACCORDINGLY. VOLTAGE WILL BE 12 VOLT OR 110 OR 220
VOLT OR CAPS.EG C=X MFD 60 HZ 12 V OR C=X MFD 120 V.
MFD= microfarads.
try it! circuit is below as attachment.

[boguslaw]

The primary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 1
The secondary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 2
The secondary contains also antenna and because of that there is also 3 resonant frequency for longitudinal 1/4 wavelength so the secondary is efficient radio transmitter.
You spark primary tank circuit not frequently, but it oscillate freely, secondary oscillate on some harmonics and the resonant LC and the length of antenna is correlated (L= 1/4 wavelength). Antenna instead of transmitting radio around is matched to the output part so all energy from ambient is stored in capacitors.

I do not pretend it works but the essence is something like above.

[med.3012]

@ ilandtan


I have studied most of Zilano published materials some of them are useful and understood but at some points it's not easy to understand her physics, for example the quoted text she talk about using overflow energy directly but in reality what happen is we collect a very tiny extra power multiplied but the very high RADIO FREQUENCY SPEED near MHZ the other important factor is the voltage in L2 , but the radio frequency speed generated energy must be collected in the capacitor banks and then used, there's nothing special in the output transformer ! it's still an output device aimed to lower the voltage but i am not sure about this technique because some experienced members say it's nearly impossible to success in this design , the best option is to gather a good amount of power in the capacitor banks and after that try to put a suitable inverter.

[ilandtan]

there's nothing special about that ! the real power is there inside the capacitor banks that collect the power received by your L2 coil, if you really succeeded in the capacitor banks all what you have to put is an INVERTER.

There are some Zilano devices without the cap banks. Thus exclude storage caps from necessity of a working DS device

this is the simplest and working circuit i have tested and found it works best.
the basic is a coil resonates when its triggered with pulsing dc at its resonant
frequency specified by coil and its self capacitance. as we dont know self
capacitance of a coil unless we measure it with lcr meter. so a cap is used
parallel to the coil. we know inductance and cap is an oscillating circuit. it
oscillates transfering oscillations to secondary. here primary is an oscillator
and secondary resonate sympathetically if a matching cap is used at
secondary. the two coils now resonate. feeding each other with same resonant
frequency and losses compensated with spark feeding energy so its resonant
oscillator. resonance produce amplification and this xtra energy is pulsed
again as we did it in the primary with diode and spark gap. the traf is ferrite
and the coil primary of trafo is matched with cap for 60 hz by matching
capacitor so trafo primary oscillates at 50/60 hz. here spark triggers the trafo
primary to make it oscillate at 60 hz. the output can be tapped at the output of
secondary. here we just use overflow of resonant energy and dont use storage
caps. this is simple theory and working device schematic. its a working
circuit. one can use varistors to maintain desired voltage. varistors are
available easily.

http://www.energeticforum.com/images/editor/attach.gif

[med.3012]

I'm trying to find the specific information on how to create the last and seemingly almost the most important piece of the DS equation. How to get HF to LF at Iron Core primary at 60 hz

there's nothing special about that ! the real power is there inside the capacitor banks that collect the power received by your L2 coil, if you really succeeded in the capacitor banks all what you have to put is an INVERTER.